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  2. Not sure what SEM means, but all the other All Asia Summit posts had it in their title, so 😁 I really enjoyed this year's summit. For me it was a mostly relaxing time hanging out with fellow alumni, with some very useful classroom time, mixed in with some intensive approaching stints. My main goal with coming to the summit this year was to continue to build on and keep a good relationship with the guys in the chat groups who regularly give me advice. I think that face-time is super important for keeping people connected, and considering how much value the people in the community have provided to me over the years, I felt that it was well worth the financial investment that coming to Korea from China costs. Speaking of costs, I managed to get a pretty good price on a Thursday night flight ticket, as well as a really inexpensive but still great quality AirBnb in the Yeoksam part of Gangnam. Friday was introduction day. I was pretty stoked, as I had already managed to home-bounce a girl I had approached at Taco Bell earlier that day. Unfortunately I couldn't overcome her "We just met" resistance, which is fair enough, considering that I knew her for less than an hour at the point of the homebounce haha. Anyway, I made sure to show up early to the summit meeting place so that I could possibly get some beforehand chat time with any alumni who were already there. It's often the casual conversations with the guys where you often get drips of gold information that can benefit your life tremendously if you pay attention. Later that night we all hit the Itaewon strip to game. Itaewon had tons of girls, but I find it very difficult to get sets to hook there, maybe because so many Korean guys are out there hunting so the girls have tougher shields up Saturday was a day filled with lots of practical lessons related to storytelling and building a Routine Stack. The storytelling class was offered by Sage, a person who I find is a very skilled not only at effective storytelling, but also at giving thoughtful compliments to girls (and his witty humor made his storytelling class as entertaining as it was useful). The Routine Stack class was powered by RedPoleQ, and I found this information particularly relevant, as I've been spending the past couple months completely revamping my Routine Stack, and during the talks that day I heard lots of great ideas that I've added to my game. We spent that night out on the Gangnam strip, and it was a great time seeing everyone out there hanging out and opening sets. I was more interested in chatting with the bros than I was in opening sets, but I somehow managed to wing McConnell and end up with an instant date bounce with our girls to a nearby bar. I definitely think that my girl was closeable, but we didn't have the luxury of time to divide and conquer the girls, since both McConnell and I had to rest up for the final day of summit. Sunday was a day filled with lots of supplementary information that guys who are intermediate pickup level and above might find most useful. The courses I attended included taking sexy videos (led by McConnell and Kane), Shibari (led by McConnell), and Fashion (led by McConnell). All three courses were relevant to me, as those are all areas in my game that I am looking to improve upon. My favorite was definitely the Shibari course, particularly the cool looking neck chain that McConnell showed up how to tie. I was super tired (and Romeo's couch was super comfortable) and fell asleep at the beginning of the fashion course, but thankfully I recorded the audio on my phone, so maybe I can still learn something. We spent the last night on the same Gangnam strip from the previous night. A non-Alumni summit member and I bounced a Korean two-set to a bar and then to his nearby home. We weren't able to close the girls because of a time-constraint, but I learned a lot from seeing how he has his home set up to BT spike, entertain, and thrill girls who he is trying to close. I've since borrowed a couple of things from him to make my own home more appealing to girls, am looking forward to seeing what effect it has. Overall it was another great year at summit. I'm really glad that I came and got some face-time with the guys, particularly with two of my Mastermind members who happened to be in attendance. Really grateful to be part of such an intelligent community of guys, looking forward to leveling up more and more every year!
  3. Not sure what SEM means, but all the other All Asia Summit posts had it in their title, so 😁 I really enjoyed this year's summit. For me it was a mostly relaxing time hanging out with fellow alumni, with some very useful classroom time, mixed in with some intensive approaching stints. My main goal with coming to the summit this year was to continue to build on and keep a good relationship with the guys in the chat groups who regularly give me advice. I think that face-time is super important for keeping people connected, and considering how much value the people in the community have provided to me over the years, I felt that it was well worth the financial investment that coming to Korea from China costs. Speaking of costs, I managed to get a pretty good price on a Thursday night flight ticket, as well as a really inexpensive but still great quality AirBnb in the Yeoksam part of Gangnam. Friday was introduction day. I was pretty stoked, as I had already managed to home-bounce a girl I had approached at Taco Bell earlier that day. Unfortunately I couldn't overcome her "We just met" resistance, which is fair enough, considering that I knew her for less than an hour at the point of the homebounce haha. Anyway, I made sure to show up early to the summit meeting place so that I could possibly get some beforehand chat time with any alumni who were already there. It's often the casual conversations with the guys where you often get drips of gold information that can benefit your life tremendously if you pay attention. Later that night we all hit the Itaewon strip to game. Itaewon had tons of girls, but I find it very difficult to get sets to hook there, maybe because so many Korean guys are out there hunting so the girls have tougher shields up Saturday was a day filled with lots of practical lessons related to storytelling and building a Routine Stack. The storytelling class was offered by Sage, a person who I find is a very skilled not only at effective storytelling, but also at giving thoughtful compliments to girls (and his witty humor made his storytelling class as entertaining as it was useful). The Routine Stack class was powered by RedPoleQ, and I found this information particularly relevant, as I've been spending the past couple months completely revamping my Routine Stack, and during the talks that day I heard lots of great ideas that I've added to my game. We spent that night out on the Gangnam strip, and it was a great time seeing everyone out there hanging out and opening sets. I was more interested in chatting with the bros than I was in opening sets, but I somehow managed to wing McConnell and end up with an instant date bounce with our girls to a nearby bar. I definitely think that my girl was closeable, but we didn't have the luxury of time to divide and conquer the girls, since both McConnell and I had to rest up for the final day of summit. Sunday was a day filled with lots of supplementary information that guys who are intermediate pickup level and above might find useful.
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  5. Tue 12 Jun 2019 Went to the doc to get an std test today, better safe than sorry, you know. Opened a bunch of people just because I felt like BT spiking. One lady working at reception by herself gave me that damnit another patient vibe, then she was giggling and smiling by the time I was done with my urine test, lol! Walking down the stairs while leaving I opened a tall girl that was really done up (for America) with I like your shoes. Thanks! They're from work though. Want to trade? Laughs and stops on the staircase. I get a look at the face and go, oh shit that's definitely a tranny. WHY? I don't know but the plastic surgery and tranny alarm was going off super loud so I said "haha, I'm just teasing you, enjoy your day!" and ejected Walked past a nurse who could have been decent checking her texts on a bench outside. Bitched out because there were like 7 other people within 25 yards. I walked to my car and kicked myself and said DON'T BE A BITCH. Went back and she was gone... he who hesitates lol Opened a girl in line behind me at the bank, she wasn't good but she was friendly so I just practiced talking to her and ran some attraction. No kino though lol. She obviously started to get pretty into it Girl came in behind her, skinny brigade worthy short asian girl with the short dyed blonde hair. Damn, one girl out of 100 that was even worth approaching and she was 4 people behind me in line. Talked to the tellers, walked outside and decided to try and make an excuse by calling customer service (the tellers advised me to) while talking to the security guard. She comes out with a guy who looked so different that I immediately assumed it was her boyfriend. They walked off and I'm still banging my head against the wall. I could have just asked her about her brother. AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH All in all at least it was good to go out and get some practice! By the local community college seems like it has a chance of having not trash girls too so maybe I'll be looking into that this weekend haha
  6. Hi All, A bit about myself, I am Thai. Completed undergraduate in Thai and master degree in the US currently working as E-commerce manager in NYC. PU alumni who also my close friend introduced the idea of PU to me. I was very skeptical at first because I thought I had no problem with my relationship. I usually have a girl in relationship. However, after a number of reading and conversation with him I realized that I had a huge relationship problem. All girls that I dated with for my entire life are much much lower bar and all relationship was ended because of boring or I have no interested in the girl any more. So I decided to give PU a short. So at the end of 2018, I had a boots camp with McConnell in Bangkok. Which end up with very fantastic results. Day 1: Introduction & Catch-up, Attraction, lern about yourself McConell roughly introduce over all concepts of 5 steps gaming circle to me. And also analysis what I already from the reading and make sure we're on the same page. Mc asked me who I am, what is you're job, How you be there , etc. All are the questions that I will never ask myself. I know myself and my frame a lot more because on these. Moreover, beside my direct rebot like answser. Mc also gave me a smooth answer to use if I was asked by a set with these questions Night 1: I was very panic and nervous back there. Usually I just went to club with my friend and get dunk and do carzy non reasonable thing. It my first time that I go to the club on purpose and have a professional couch with me. Everything so skeptical and frustrated Mc tought me the concept of opening and gave me 5 BT SPIKE!!! into my deposal. He let me use only 5 BT SPIKE again and again to all different sets and suddenly get out from the set after finished that BT spikes. I kept asking myself "Why Mc let me do this? And What the heck am I doing. The first few sets are so difficult. I was nervous and paniced but after around 4 sets everything totally change. It is much more easier. I was able to automatically and spontaneously use BT spikes with out thinking of them. It is like just repeatedly say the same thing but the results are so different from each set. Some are very positive some very negative. Again after I completed BT spike, Mc told me to just walk out and do nothing which is so funny to the set. I remembered the girl said "what! that's it???" Nevertheless, I think on the first day, I would never be able to even talk if I have to complete all the steps. I get used to denies from the set. And I had more time to pay attention to the set's response instead of forcusing on what I had to do next at the end of the night I approach more set than I used to from the beginning of my life. Day 2: Mc asked me to list a quality of my ideal girl. It's actually more difficult than I thought. I take some time to come up with very long bullet points that contradict with itself for example ,I like sporty girl who like to eat desert. We discussed a lot about this. Mc helped me to figure out what exactly are a Qualification in a girl that I like then use that information to be a base. For example, what frame should I have in order to get that sporty girl. What story should I have. What BT spike that's more effective. Furthermore, Mc hit me hard with Qualification stage. Which questions that both qualify you and a girl, how to due with disqualification, how to make a girl qualify herself to you instead of you chasing her. So this learning prove me that Pickup isn't just train you to find a girl day by day but train you to find a girl who's perfect fit for you. We went day game together and the result is fantastic. I was able game a set for significant of time and then successfully number close. I think by know the girl that you like is one of a key of success. Most of the question and story from you will be adjust accordingly because of it. I feel like asking correct question that a girl want to be asked. Then, late afternoon we have a text saminar which change my perspective about texting forever Night 2: This night was more relaxed and focus in closing the set not just opening. I have to complete the cycle that was the goal. It look like a lot of pressure but I instead feel more relaxed and fun. It might be because I got used to it some how. However, Mc still have to give some put because I have some delays and hesitate before approaching. After the approach everything is fine. I mostly could naturaly complete the cycle. There were some room for improvement though. First, positioning , I always quickly and inconveniently too close to the girl. Mc always watched my position and give me a feedback right the way. Next, eyes contact was also my weak spot. I usually don't look at the girl deeply into her eyes and sometime I even look at other next target set during the current conversation. Mc also commented me on this bad habbit. It's very good to have third person oversee and give recommendations to you real time You never be able to see it by yourself. Day3: We recapped everything that we learn for pass 3 days and begin the day game immediately. Everything that happened that day were perfectly according to the plan. We selected book store to be venue and expected professional business girl to appear on business book section then they appeared. I opened with a random book, asked what she think about it then guess that she's professional in some company. Show her my value and make it a bit above her but not too much. Tell the story how hard before I reached this point. Proudly told her that I was ไม่เอาไหน but now I change by a lot. Finally, tell her that she's friendly not just a nerd as I expected and ask for instant date or time bridge. I were able to time bridge around 5 and 1 instant date. For me, this is incredible. I never just have a date with strangers instantly and more importantly this's so much fun. I used to have to get back to Mc and ask for some lines to use for the game but that day I hit Mc back with lot of idea like kids who never stop talking to their prarent. Surly Mc was so tired of me that day. Lol Night3: After our section is ended. Me and Mc decided to hang around just a bit more I bought Mc to kinda hidden place in Bangkok. We had a chance to have conversation and know each other more. Mc is definitely a great guy I proudly confirm. He's passionate what he's doing and give the best to me We drank a lot, bounce to several location and have fun. At the end, I confirmed that this is a life changing experience that far far Worth than you think. Thank you
  7. I think he's in Beijing these days.
  8. Ofc once I figure PM I’ll message if not then here ha!
  9. Hey, man. Are you on WeChat? If so, I can connect you with some guys in China.
  10. Yeah I don’t think I’d have a problem approaching. My biggest problem is being a bit darker than the average Chinese brother so I just have a massive mind block from approaching. Not only being foreign but black and approaching that might be too much for China to handle. 哈哈
  11. It depends how far you have to move the pawn. That makes perfect sense Like the examples I gave. You can open with more "normal" things too because you have social proof. I must have been half asleep when I wrote that, your examples are good thank you haha. I think what I should do is try it so I can get a better mental image 😂 😁 Thanks for the responses as always! The forums and your help have made a huge difference in my level of game!
  12. Hey Looking for wingmen or even PUA groups in China specifically: ShenZhen HongKong Or Guangzhou
  13. Almost everyone struggles with the qualification questions about girls, it would be extremely valuable if you started and continuously built upon a Perfect Girl Desire Statement, you already did this partially during the bootcamp with the list of qualities you came up with. Yeah the leaning was a big issue, have you noticed this happening after the bootcamp? We all have particular body language ticks that are hard to get rid of and the leaning thing is one that is the most valuable to suppress or totally remove, i still do this weird thing where i cross my legs sometimes in sets, its pretty tough to control. You did do really well with how you applied yourself, especially without drinking, i've seen lots of people get really messed up by trying to game sober, so good job. Riding out and pushing through the awkwardness is always really important. It's important that you start mixing up your openers so you can develop the realizations that what you say isn't as important as the frame you put forth and push. Yeah it's always better to push sets beyond what you think is the limit, as that is where you get the most growth and get the results that surprise you. With strawberry fields - if you keep having issues with it, use your phone to record the audio of you saying it and post it, we can give it a listen and let you know if theres anything that can be modified to make it work better for u. You did things really well during this session. Generally after doing a bootcamp people find that their bottlenecks shift and instead of attraction or instant dates, they find LMR is where they get stuck (usually because they're meeting more girls and trying to close girls much quicker than before) however this is no different to any other section of game. There are particular patterns that will emerge as you encounter similar situations, based on your Game and how you do things, so please make sure to communicate with us regularly what issues you're encountering so we can give you as much assistance as possible in overcoming them. LMR usually happens similarly in girls with them saying and doing similar things, overcoming this usually just means tweaking parts of your interaction with women and having better tactics when responding to what they say. Good job mate. Keep up the good work!
  14. Ahhh that's good! Do you usually have to do a few minutes of attraction before you can get a girl to follow you over to talk to other people? I guess acting like you do it all the time is probably key It depends how far you have to move the pawn. Open like what? With your arm around the pawn? Like the examples I gave. You can open with more "normal" things too because you have social proof. Ah these are my favorite kinds of choices, when all your options are less than great haha! That's when you really get to play with your decision making skills 😂 What's this about? Her friend appeared and I said I'd wing but he didn't think the set was going anywhere. He just needed some time to get back into it and get over his AA again Ahhhh, got it.
  15. Perfect plan Ahhh that's good! Do you usually have to do a few minutes of attraction before you can get a girl to follow you over to talk to other people? I guess acting like you do it all the time is probably key Open like what? With your arm around the pawn? Generally this will be tough if you opened the set and there is a language barrier, but in general, the best way to do it is to include his girl in the conversation. So, he asks you where are you from, you answer and then ask the obstacle. She says where she's from, then you ask the guy if he's ever been there, then if he has, have him talk about the place and if he hasn't have the girl talk about the place Ahhh okay that's good. I can see that set going so much differently when I imagine doing that! Or you can eject and come back to the set later at the risk of not being able to find it. Ah these are my favorite kinds of choices, when all your options are less than great haha! That's when you really get to play with your decision making skills You have some options here too. One of the things that's different about night game from day game is that in night game, you can re-open the set later because typically they'll be there for several hours. It can be a lot better to run the set similarly to if you go to meet a girl and she is with friends. You get in there, make yourself look good, but knowing that you likely can't get enough isolation to progress the sarge at that time, you eject and come back later. Okay, that's a good way to think of it since I have the meet with friends thing pretty clear in my mind I think. Only problem is with this set I didn't even get to the make myself look good phase HA! I was just refusing to get blown out easily Oh shit. That makes sense. I need to start asking myself what girls are doing and what they're going to do next, and think of what the lowest pressure time to open is. I had been regularly opening girls in high pressure situations before I went to Soupernoob's boot camp lol What's this about? Her friend appeared and I said I'd wing but he didn't think the set was going anywhere. He just needed some time to get back into it and get over his AA again
  16. 5-10min. I mean, you can start texting on the way to the bathroom and then when you get back to the table you can check your messages more frequently because you'll be expecting some useful responses. LOL! That is such perfect terminology! So you just hook one girl and then walk her around and open another one with your arm around the pawn? When you ditch the pawn how do you do it without seeming like you're being a dick? The way it works is that with the pawn, you never really go beyond attraction so when you open the new girl you can ask her something about the girl you're with, like: Does it look like this girl had surgery on her eyes? How old do you think this girl is? This girl (the pawn) likes your x! (In this case you can talk about the girl before you open her) -- It's actually not necessary that you open like that since it's a club environment, it's quite normal for people to talk to strangers. Generally this will be tough if you opened the set and there is a language barrier, but in general, the best way to do it is to include his girl in the conversation. So, he asks you where are you from, you answer and then ask the obstacle. She says where she's from, then you ask the guy if he's ever been there, then if he has, have him talk about the place and if he hasn't have the girl talk about the place. Or you can eject and come back to the set later at the risk of not being able to find it. You have some options here too. One of the things that's different about night game from day game is that in night game, you can re-open the set later because typically they'll be there for several hours. It can be a lot better to run the set similarly to if you go to meet a girl and she is with friends. You get in there, make yourself look good, but knowing that you likely can't get enough isolation to progress the sarge at that time, you eject and come back later. It's easier if you open the set that's already dancing. In this particular case they were on the way to the dance floor and you were trying to interrupt that momentum. But if they're already dancing, and have been the next thing they're going to do is take a break anyway so you're going more along with their pattern. What's this about?
  17. Welcome to the party, man! Great write up. Sounds like you really crushed it on boot camp. Glad to have you on here and looking forward to more adventures from you.
  18. Awesome! Love this. Great write-up, sounds like you had a solid weekend. It's cool to break through limiting beliefs and come up with new realizations. You've got the post-bootcamp momentum on your side, so roll with it! Looking forward to reading your updates.
  19. Pre Boot Camp Six years ago I decided to pack up everything and leave Sydney. In search of a new adventure in Beijing. I attended BLCU and studied Chinese like many foreigners do when first arriving in China. In my first few days at the university, I met a guy from South Africa who had read a few books about the game and seemed to be very popular with the ladies. The first night we went out together I watched him close a solid 8 from Wu Club (for anyone is ever in Beijing Wu Club is a great place to meet university students who are looking for a good time, at least this is how it was two years ago, maybe things have changed since then). Watching my new friend found close this girl so quickly inspired me to start making some drastic changes in my life to start improving how women perceived me and my relationships with women. I had always been very overweight, and this had always been an issue for me in terms of meeting girls as it affected my self-confidence. I joined the gym, improved my fashion and read the book “The Game”. These few small changes had a huge effect on my life, and I started to pull fairly hot girls quite regularly. I was going out to clubs 3-4 times a week in both Wudaokou and Sanlitun; however, I rarely played day game. Three years ago I moved to Shanghai for a work opportunity, and a friend of mine recommended I join ‘The Shanghai Shaggers’ wechat group as a way to meet friends in a new city. I started going out with some of the guys in the group to a club called ‘The Apartment’, I was very impressed with the skills these guys had and quickly found out they had all been trained by Kane. At this point, I had banged more than 200 girls, and even though I wanted to do a boot camp with Kane, I couldn’t justify it, as I believed I was already good enough at pick up and didn’t need it (later I would find out how wrong I was). After breaking up with the hottest girl I ever dated I was finding it difficult again to approach girls, at this point, I decided to bite the bullet and contact Kane to register for a boot camp. Boot Camp Day One - Night Game at Lebaron I had played a lot of club game over the years; however, I had never done it without drinking. When Kane told me that drinking was not allowed on the boot camp, I was a little nervous, to be honest. As we had dinner together at the Shanghai Brewery, Kane asked me a lot of questions about the types of girls I was into and what exactly I was looking for in a girl. Some of these questions were difficult to answer, as I had never really put much thought into it. Once we had established what I was looking for Kane helped me to develop some questions that would allow me to qualify the girls that I would like. We went into Lebaron early, and Kane ran me through step by step what I was going to do when we started opening girls. The first set of the night I approached the girl, (tap tap) ‘happy birthday.’ I put my hand out hoping to spin her, and she just looked at me and turned away. My body language was off, I wasn’t smiling enough, and my energy was low, Kane showed me what I was doing wrong. We continued opening sets for the next two hours, and I could feel that I was improving set by set. The main point I was focusing on was kino, body language (leaning forward too much) and staying in set longer. My final set of the night was a Taiwanese babe (at least an 8), in this particular set I focused on the energy of my open, consistent kino and stayed in the set for at least 20 - 30 minutes. At about the 20-minute point she said let's have a shot together, but as it was a dry boot camp, I had to say no. I explained to her that I’m training for a running race and can’t drink, that was fairly well received. At about the 30-minute point Kane came in and told me it’s time to leave, and I could add her Wechat. When we got outside Kane told me the reason he allowed me to add the wechat is because of I of how much I had improved over the session and that he could tell I really liked her. What I did well: Approached girls without being drunk, improved kino over the session, stopped leaning forward so much, became much more animated in my opens and gamed a girl that meets my standards. Improvements needed: Engage obstacles effectively, use my wing more, lean back and have more in-depth conversations. Realizations: Hot girls are just as easy as ugly girls. Day Two - Day Game at People's Square Day two started off with lunch at Peoples Square. Kane asked me to think off a few different date routines that I wanted to use in the future. Later on that, I was going to seed these locations or activities for future dates. The first step I just stop girls on the street, hold them there and ride out the awkwardness. After doing this a few times, we moved on to stage two, which was to stop girls and ask for directions to Starbucks, or the local pet shop to buy cat socks. Two university students I opened on Nanjing Road offered to walk with me to Starbucks which gave me some time to work some of my routines on them, I was able to Wechat close but couldn’t get her to agree to a time bridge. I continued to open all afternoon; I must have opened 15 plus sets. I wasn’t super happy with the quality of the girls around people square. However, there was a good flow of traffic which allowed me to practice day game opening. What I did well: Wechat closed 5 girls, used good body language, and qualified all sets and good BT spikes. Improvements needed: Don't miss any sets because I’m feeling nervous, use different material, and approach girls I like, use more kino and have a better stance in the set. Realizations: Day game is possible; I like night game better than day game, and day game can be an everyday activity. Day Two - Night Game at Lebaron By the time we arrived at Lebaron for the second night, I was starting to feel really tired. The last two sessions had really taken its toll on me both mentally and physically, so I loaded up on caffeine and started the session. Kane taught me how to sexualize inset using the Strawberry Farm question game with girls. I tried using this in set a few times throughout the night, however, didn’t really have any success using this content. I think the reason it wasn’t working is I was trying to deliver this content in Chinese and was able to deliver it confidently. About halfway through the session, I opened a girl from Inner Mongolia (I really like girls from this area of China); I was in the set and doing very well. My Kino was strong and consistent; I could tell she was really enjoying interacting with me. I got her Wechat and came back over to Kane at this point I’d been in the set for about 10 minutes, Kane asked me why I had left the set and made me go back to talk to her again. I really didn’t want to go back and reopen the set; I was feeling nervous about reopening a set. Kane said to me “it’s just a girl, what are you scared of?” So I went back in reopened her and continued talking to her for the next 20 minutes. I was pleased went back into the set as when she was leaving the club she came over and gave me a big hug and agreed to meet me the following week. What I did well: stayed in set for longer, wechat closed three girls, approached every set Kane told me to open, independently open sets and stronger kino. Improvements needed: be more expressive on the open, smile more in the club and engage the entire set. Realizations: Be fun when interacting with girls and speak slower. Day Three - Day Game in Xintiandi The first task Kane gave me was to think of what were the most significant achievements of my life, my biggest failures and some of my biggest learning experiences. After telling Kane about these points, he helped me build a story routine for deep comfort. After we finished lunch, we went outside, and Kane said to me that the goal of the day is to go on an instant date. When he mentioned this, I was feeling really worried as I doubted I’d be able to do this. On my second set of the day, I saw a really hot girl walk down one of the alleys to take photos. I went up to her and asked how to how to get to Starbucks, and she offered to walk me there. As we started walking together everything Kane had taught me over the past three days was coming together, and my routines were working so well, it felt like I had a superpower. I established that she had one hour until she was meeting her friend for dinner, so I suggested we walk together around the area. It was working; I was on an instant date! As we walked together, I started to run the deep comfort routines on her, after I finished the story she offered to buy me a coffee at a nearby cafe. We sat down, and I started to ask her lots of hypothetical questions, for example, “if you could go to the airport tonight and fly anywhere in the world, where would you go and why? Would you buy presents for your friends? What would you buy? We sat together chatting for about 40 minutes, and then she needed to go and met her friend for dinner, so I got her wechat and time bridged her for a future meet. Kane came back over and told me that I had already completed today’s goal on the second set of the day. We continued walking around, and opening sets all afternoon, and I was wechat closing a lot of different hot girls, Xintiandi is a great place to go on a Sunday afternoon. We finished off the boot camp with dinner together at a Mexican place, and Kane helped me to sum up the weekend and what was going to be the plan moving forward. That was it the boot camp was over and I was feeling great! Anyone who is thinking about doing a boot camp with Kane, I’d highly recommend it, he is a great guy and these three days of training will change your life forever. What I did well: Open the hottest girls of the weekend, Wechat closed most sets, went on an instant date, used my story in sets, lead interactions well and good conversations. Improvements needed: Be more proactive, body language, smile more and eye contact. Realizations: Taptap is risky in day game, Xintiandi is great and instant dates are possible.
  20. FR with Tokyotj Was super out of state but that made it interesting because sets took more skill and determination to hook sometimes. It wasn't as black and white as usual where sets would hook fast or not at all. Some would take a bit of time Street 2 set. BT spike a lot and manage to stop them very close to last train. Try to mention that it may be soon but they should give me line. A J dude walks over and tries to wing for me. Fine by me, I make it obvious which girl I'm after but he talks to me more than them. I engage a little but try to keep kinoing my target and engaging her. They start to back away and then eventually leave when he keeps talking. How do you deal with a guy who wants in on your set but can't focus on isolating the obstacle? Harlem. 2 set in line. How tall are you? Friend says 171. Darn 172 would have been perfect. Friend acts all disgusted (she's short maybe that's why?) 2 guys walk up and pass the girls (I didn't realize at the time they were probably together and thought it was strange). Getting blown out or ignored a lot. Especially when I don't open fast enough. One 2 set we walk by and instead of trying to think of an opener I just smile and high five her. Pass by 2 more times while doing a walkthrough then come back and bring TokyoTJ in. Set lasts about 30-40 minutes. Didn't do enough ssp because I was smiling too much in the beginning and went to sit next to her and kino her back instead of facing her. Her English was okay, I kept pausing between things though because it was loud and I was running through my stack way too quickly. I tried to stretch out the qualification more with some details but they generally didn't go well because of language and noise. They say they have to go home and I line close even though I couldn't time bridge (she said she was leaving tomorrow, but TokyoTJ said the other girl mentioned my target had a boyfriend) In reality they may not be leaving but I probably will just wait till I'm back in Japan to try and ping her for a meet. 5 set that looks like a 2 set near the bar. Open 2 by kinoing one and talking to the other and switching based on who is giving me their attention. Finally looks like I hooked both and then I ask who they're there with. 5 girls. Obstacle goes over to another friend when I'm turned around being told who's who. High five and eject because I start losing the set all over the place. In this kind of situation is it best to just try line closing if the target is good? A good 2 set walks by down the stairs while I'm talking to TokyoTJ and writing notes. When they come back up I open and get some interest, but their friends see them and then grab them all, the girls walk out to the dancefloor together and TokyoTJ tells me to go after them. I do and am getting interest from one girl but it all kind of falls off as they start dancing and doing their own thing. The girls take turns trying to close me out of the circle after a bit and I just stay there like I don't care, maybe it'd be better to pretend like they're dancing with me when they try that. I decide it's time to leave before I make it really awkward because I don't know how to dance to hip hop. I come back to this set at the end of the night and just stand there smiling while they dance crazy and try to ask my target for her line. She says no twice so I take off. How do you hook sets that are dancing crazy? Wait for them to head to the bathroom? Maybe just BT spiking them in passing a lot, though sometimes these sets just leave early too. TokyoTJ ejects from a 2 set where the target was really good and I tell him to go back and Line close her. He doesn't want to and tells me to. I just lean on their standing table and act like I understand whatever the obstacles saying and nod. They laugh. I say I like her shirt and the stripes. Does she want to trade? I start unbuttoning my shirt like KV mentioned one time and they thought it was hilarious. At the second to last button the target takes my hand and says something and I wasn't sure if it was continue or that I should button my shirt back up. I button it back up after a bit of questioning and continue BT spiking and doing a bit of qualification. Scuba diving is cool, let's go to California tonight and do it! She says something like woah that's serious (I forget). Okay tomorrow then. I try to timebridge but they say they have work all week including Saturday. I say I'll get her line and we'll talk then. Friend takes her to the bathroom and I say wait give me your line first. I move to another table so I'm not waiting for them and they come out and see me and turn to go up to a bar. I try to stop them and get her line but they keep going and I just follow them up the stairs and to their seats and say give me your line (I thought for sure they were trying to blow me out now) but my girl says okay and adds me. I make a little more small talk and say I'll message her and leave before I run out of Japanese and make the set awkward. I kinoed the obstacle and tried to keep her interested but failed to do the thing where I ask about the target through her, partly because her English was worse and partly because I was getting so many IOI's from the target I acted like a retard 2 set hooks and I say I'll be back but I take too long and they leave 3 set just gets there at 3am and I open with my "Hey it's you!" opener for girls with tan coats. It goes well and they hook but they're a bit older and I'm out of state and don't know where to go. Before I lose the set I say ganbare and high five or shake their hands and eject so that I can reopen later. I ejected from a lot of sets before trying to bring TokyoTJ in and I think though from a "social" club game standpoint it was better to have everyone on good terms, more people actually showed up and it wasn't as dangerous to have unfriendly sets. I really missed out on getting to work on bringing TokyoTJ in and building our synergy too, though TokyoTJ is a great wing regardless. realizations: -Being out of state isn't the end of the world. It does make it significantly harder to hook sets though. -Having a neutral face is much better than trying to not frown at how badly you're doing sometimes -I expect a lot more from my sets now, and that's awesome! -Running with a high keenness set later in the night seems to have a higher chance of yielding any results as at the end of the night all the good sets are dancing, gone, or too sleepy to enjoy their interactions
  21. Sunday 21 Apr Went out to do some day game in the dark with Romeo. Shibuya. Romeo opened a really tough walking set with headphones, then a sitting two set that we passed by soon after going to a less crowded spot. I manage not to get noticed or be in line of sight when he opens this time (as I did too many times), and he brings me in after a bit. Who's the bad girl, I go over to mine who has goth accessories all over and a neck piercing and chuckle to myself. I start off with an Ohayo and only give my girl a handshake. I'm starting off a bit slow and can't think of things to say so I jump to qualification pretty quickly since it seems she's already pretty keen. Do you like skydiving. Her eyes light up and she says yeah I wanna try it! Woah high five! Scuba diving? She's actually done it! (I think at least, she speaks about as much English as I do Japanese which at this point is almost none.) Wow! I love you! I grab her and hug her tight, from the side because we're all sitting on a small stone barrier. She seems to respond well to this, and I actually do like her a lot more because she qualified well on that and a few other things even though she wasn't super good looking. For a little bit the two girls start talking to each other about our BT spikes or occasionally translating help. Romeo tells his girl to use a translator and show him and I try to get my girls attention by thinking of more interesting things to ask her. One or two times though I helped translate and felt kinda dumb. After about 10 minutes in set Romeo asks if I want to stay and maybe bounce and I say sure that would be great practice. He asks if they want to drink. Meeting guy friends soon. That's fine it should be quick. As he's doing this I try to seed sushi in shibuya because I forgot I needed to be seeding more. Everyone thinks I mean we should go to sushi instead, bad timing lol! That's okay we decide to bounce them to sushi and I double check with Romeo that he's cool with that. We walk over to sushi and my end of the weekend state starts getting to me. I forget to run enough game and am in general thinking way too slowly. We talk about a few things but luckily I was smart enough to forcefully pick the mood back up right before we left. Lots of smiles and time bridge before we parted ways and they went to go see their friends. Or so they said. I should have time bridged sooner and kept trying to game more. Opened a lot of walking sets and all the good ones with colored hair that I saw. Usually no English and some really tried to blow me out pretty hard. Romeo mentions that I should try to stop them since there were a lot of Japanese guys opening too, and most of them were walking with them or trying to hand out flyers as the girls passed. My successful hook rate increased after this, and if I didn't hook I'd at least get a decent amount more compliance sometimes. There were 2 sets that were really smiley but left though. 1. 2 set of what looked like super young girls when they turned around which threw me off. I was unsure but kept trying to open anyway. They want through a crowd of people but I stopped them for a half second. You! They continue trying to walk. Wait, your friend *kino obstacle, your friend's shoes are really big. They stop walking and are smiling a lot and listening. That means you. Point to make it extra obvious. You are only this tall. They laugh and I say, so you're 15. Wasn't looking into the obstacle's eyes enough. They laugh, no! And turn and walk. I'm confused on so many levels that I don't pursue them. Romeo says it was going well I should go reopen. I agree but we lost them in the crowd and shops. 2. Romeo is making a head call and a 2 set of taller blonde haired girls walks by. I hesitate a second and they're already perpendicular to me so I start walking to overtake them, 2 or 3 guys try to hand out flyers so I join in trying to hand them an imaginary piece of paper. They laugh and smile but we're all still walking. Stop, I tell them. They stop to my surprise. Your friend's shoes are really big! Decent kino I think, wasn't quite hard enough. They laugh and say yeah she's actually short. Good English!? They turn and keep trying to go. I say wait you should meet my friend! They stop and turn around again, waiting and I say he's tall and good looking. They have to meet some friends they say, they're late. I say wait one more time but don't pursue. I really REALLY should have with this set, at least line closed if not tried to see if I could get them to ignore their appointment entirely for the sake of science. 1 more set that is walking fast with silver hair and the standard Japanese tan overcoat. Hey!! Oh I thought you were my friend because of your tan jacket! No English! Hand up in front of her face. I mean you have the jacket, I lift up part of her jacket for emphasis. She pushes my hand away. I try to switch openers but she continues to walk faster and says something in Japanese haha. Romeo opens a 2 set of young girls because they have some gacha balls with something he thinks is funny. They hook pretty well. The obstacle hands us each a gacha ball to help open them. The obstacle is very compliant and we maneuver into a standard isolating configuration. They're friends celebrating my girl's birthday. I actually know enough Japanese now to keep the obstacle occupied and ended up kinoing a lot to test compliance, which there was a lot. Romeo mentions we should go meet RPQ and I say okay one second and line close my girl which Romeo later mentioned he thought was super funny because he felt awkward when he learned they were young and had gotten physically a lot stiffer when they mentioned it 😂. Romeo's girl spoke really good English so could have a lot of fun with the set. Overall probably 10-15 minutes Try to open a set walking really fast. Some opener that was silly. Ignore. Hand. Meeting friend. Otoko. Is she his girlfriend? Yes. Okay. Realizations: -As Romeo mentioned to me, realizing what the girl is typically dealing with, whether that be guys' openers or how comfortable she feels with kino or energy levels (KV mentioned this too) can be really helpful in streamlining the learning process.
  22. You usually can't get time if you're talking about night game. But usually, it doesn't matter, you can just move on to something else because night game moves so fast anyway. If it's a slower situation, you can "shush" her and then look into her eyes deeply making her think that you're having deep thoughts while you frantically come up with what to do next. Also, on Day 2s, you can dip out to the bathroom for a quick huddle up and maybe some texts to get some support from the guys. I've done this plenty of times when things weren't going my way. I've read this three times and I still can't control my laughter when I read the part about shushing her and staring deeply into her eyes! Okay these are great tips! And yeah I've thought about doing that before since you guys have mentioned it. How long of a bathroom break can you usually get away with if you need it? Yeah you're a bit more aware of your surroundings in the club than I am lol. All I see is girls with silver hair that I need to open LOL! That is such perfect terminology! So you just hook one girl and then walk her around and open another one with your arm around the pawn? When you ditch the pawn how do you do it without seeming like you're being a dick? Shit, blowing kisses and air guns are going to be all over Shibuya this week! This sounds way too fun 😂 Yeah fair haha. Maybe I should just spend a night watching the guys who seem good at it Yeah! A lot of these realizations were from Romeo's points throughout the night! I can't wait to get better at gaming these girls! Thanks! And thanks for all the help! I look forward to hanging out again in Tokyo next week!
  23. You usually can't get time if you're talking about night game. But usually, it doesn't matter, you can just move on to something else because night game moves so fast anyway. If it's a slower situation, you can "shush" her and then look into her eyes deeply making her think that you're having deep thoughts while you frantically come up with what to do next. Also, on Day 2s, you can dip out to the bathroom for a quick huddle up and maybe some texts to get some support from the guys. I've done this plenty of times when things weren't going my way. Did you come up with anything? Not that night. I wanted to say something like "You should lick it off!" But at the moment all I can think of is pretending to sniff it and saying it smells good, what is it lol That could work! I don't think I've ever had a girl spill a drink on me, so I never had to come up with something for this. YES, exactly. Social proof is your best bet here. Even better if you open her WITH another girl. In this case, the other girl is called a "pawn" and basically you bring her into the set, and then ditch her (sacrificing the pawn) once the girl you really want is hooked. Yeah, and blowing kisses, air guns, shy faces. The kind of cute/fun stuff that Asians like. I suck with tables too, man. No idea why. Maybe just lack of experience with them. Great realizations. Being non-reactive is a major marker of high value. And yeah...the more you go for those girls, the better you'll get at gaming them as you hone your skills. Good work and keep at it!
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  25. Went out to Camelot in Shibuya with Romeo and Ladysman at the recommendation of TokyoTJ. It was really fun! I have been out with Prime some and should really add some of my approaches with him to my FRD. But for now this is fresh in my head. One thing about the club Espirit is I can't seem to get girls to go to the table that Prime's friends have. I can do my normal goofy openers and hook sets (still less than usual), but they won't bounce to the table and the ones I try to open with "we have a table, want to drink?" like they suggested, pretty much just say no lol. Maybe I need to make more eye contact, maybe it's the venue, maybe I just have to have that much better of a positive seeming presence. Got to Camelot around exactly midnight. Found the guys on the middle floor which has hip hop music. Romeo gave me a rundown of how he likes to game and was super awesome the whole night offering advice and sharing some stories between sets. Went down to the EDM floor, Romeo opened a warmup set. Ended it on a high note after about 2-3 minutes so we could reopen later if we wanted. I open a 2 set at a table, at first no compliance, open the target across the obstacle while kinoing the obstacle. Did your earrings hurt to put in? No. Your friend's shoes are really big. Chuckles. Logistics discovery and another BT spike or two and they're hooked. Bring in Romeo. Decide I actually like the obstacle better, too bad she's the one who speaks some English lol. I try to let my girl translate some but I let the set slip a little. Still happy and going well when we bounce to open more. --Reopened this set later, had okay kino compliance but I tried to do a silly bit about tandem skydiving where I demonstrate it and she stepped away and got super cold when I stepped behind her and tried to raise her arms up. I laughed and continued with something. Kept trying to kino too much and she was very wary of shutting it down and eventually as I thought I was letting her translate she didn't want me to kino her at all and kept stepping farther away from the standing table and their drinks. I lost the set mostly by being a boob and forgetting what to say on top of being too lazy to try and make it more fun after she started shutting everything down. Maybe I should have acted like she was being weird, but I don't know if I had the language capability to do that. Romeo opens some sets that go pretty well, we get a bit of a circle of people dancing, too bad all the girls are trash lol. I try a couple of times to bring other girls in but no luck and not enough skill haha. Open a 2 set both wearing white with "white, white, twins!" disgusted looks. I laugh while kinoing the girl I'm not talking to, and try a couple more BT spikes but the music gets loud. I just stand there and dance a little and keep trying to do BT spikes. One finally grabs her friend and they have to leave to the back of the dance floor 😂. Even better is Romeo tried the twins opener on them later and we thought it was hilarious, he then told ladysman to do it and we kept waving to them when they passed by. They looked like they were half mad at us and half mad at themselves for refusing to talk to us LOL. Open a lot of 2 sets on the dance floor. I probably could have been a bit louder and had better body language. I caught myself leaning forward a couple of times to talk in the girls' ears. Most of the good ones blow me out, a few of the better ones I make leave by refusing to stop talking at them haha. Though I think most of the time when one turns away, I talk to the friend about that friend and she starts realizing more that her friend wants out. Romeo opened a 3 set and ran the 2 set. I ran pretty standard game on my girl who I wasn't super interested in but then she qualified really well. Too bad I couldn't time bridge because she's busy every day I'm not this week apparently. It might be how I went about the time bridge though. I just went for it and said do you work wednesday, what time do you finish. Then when she didn't really understand (I think I didn't use quite the right word) and I said we should get dinner together. Really this is just an objection that probably means I didn't do enough seeding and future projection. Line closed. Opened a 3 set while Romeo and ladysman are dancing with a 2 set Romeo pulled over. Offered to trade glow sticks that were identical. She laughed and was pretty immediately hooked. Went over to her and asked if she was with her friends, a white couple that was really not into it it seemed. Gave the guy a handshake, BT spiked. Should have just brought them all over to the other guys but I didn't want to bring the couple for some reason. Danced with them a bit and saw the guys going back to the bar with the girl who was acting drunk. Mostly just danced silly and did some DHVs and PIE. She had no phone and couldn't search her line ID, so I had her give me her phone number. She called herself and it seemed to have worked. "time bridged" for breakfast with everyone, told her to text me around 4:30, and it was 3-330 am. Ejected to find the guys with the intention of bringing them back to all dance together. Kiss on the cheek and I go. Took 10 minutes of searching to find the guys because the girl lost her phone and wallet. Then I saw an 8.5 with the jaw length blonde hair and I had to open her. By the time I got back they were gone. The girl with the blonde hair definitely worked there. I opened her with, she's 140cm! When she's clearly 170. The guy next to her says you're right! Nice! Should have asked anyway for an extra BT spike opportunity. I ran this set terribly but well in some ways. She spoke very little English and showed varying interest over the course of the 15 or so minute intial set. It started out good but as I lost momentum it got harder, especially because I had to engage the guy and sometimes they would talk, and at one point she went over to have a shot with the bartender. I took a lesson from Romeo and just acted like everything was cool even when she spent 2 or 3 minutes completely trying to ignore me. Tried to time bridge but no go, Line closed her and the other guy who was a DJ there. Smiled and said see you when I went to see my friends but the smiles were the kind that you smile when you feel bad about something at the same time. --Reopened at the end of the night because the girl for breakfast hadn't been texting back and I couldn't locate her in the club (she did finally text back after I mentioned her name lol.) The DJ says woah it's the comeback kid! Or something to that effect and I laugh and high five them both. We talk for a little bit about him DJ'ing and her liking to run and dance with my 3 glowsticks. The DJ starts talking to her about something in japanese and she turns away from me at the bar. I chill there for a couple of minutes texting the other girls and then walk over to the weaker position away from the bar and ask if I can listen so I can learn Japanese faster. He says okay. Suddenly the girl is giving me a lot more interest and smiles while looking into my eyes for much longer periods of time. I really am not sure why this is. We talk about a few things and I kino her back and pat her on the head when appropriate, trying not to be too too bad in case she has face to maintain in her social circle. Try to bounce her to breakfast but she really wants to sleep and is allowed to stay downstairs while all the guests are being ushered out. I say bye to both of them and take off. Line closed another blonde girl at the metro by asking where to go like I was lost. She spoke English really well but talked to me in Japanese anyway. When I asked her why she said she thought it was cute lol. I guess that's a good thing. I knew I'd just missed first train but she said to hurry so I left and went there like I was listening. My brain was fried and I was being retarded, should have stayed at her platform and talked for 5 or 10 minutes while her train came. Acted conflicted about asking then said I was hungry did she wanna get breakfast. She really wants to sleep but next time, Line closed. All in all I think I learned a lot and worked up quite a sweat so it was a great night! Plus I got 3 good girls in the pipeline and one really hot super low probability girl! Things I did well: -Tried to give everybody a positive experience and had fun with everyone nearby even if I didn't want to open them -Made sure I really got blown out, or at least made the girls walk away -Got better at obstacle game as the night went on -Managed situations that seemed bad just by pretending they were fine! Things I will improve: -I will make sure to engage my girl so that my wing doesn't lose the set to my bad game -I will get better at communicating and recognizing when my wing is happy with the set -I will stick with sets that I like or at the very least realize when I've been gone too long to do something -I will continue acting like 8's and 9's should be paying attention to me and kino them confidently like I would any other girl Realizations: -I totally forgot, but not letting anything bother you and having fun is an easy and really big DHV -I really can hook 8's and 9's I just need the game to compete with the slew of guys trying to get at them, that and the knowledge of Japanese to communicate because they almost never speak English (and when they do I get blown out)
  26. Woops! Can't believe I forgot to reply to this! I'm glad you caught up too, all the advice has been helping me improve far beyond what I thought I could manage! This is excellent wisdom and yeah, like I learned tonight. The more people that look at you positively the better because other people do notice. You're definitely right that other sets don't really know the difference between the guy trying to DHV himself and me making friends with the group. You can add this on as a BT spike. Ahh okay. Yeah if I make sure to make it obvious it's a BT spike it's not too weird It's supposed to be a BS palm read, so you could just keep going with it and make it over the top ridiculous. Probably when she told you that you were wrong and she knew about palm reading you just cut the thread at that point instead of doing something like: Oh...then you know that this line means that you're going to have 15 kids with me or something else funny. HAHA! Okay good point. This is definitely something I can apply a lot when I think I'm stuck. I guess what do you do if you feel like you want a second to think of a good response? Ahh okay. Number 2 is really good haha. If you don't ask you can't get what you want right Don't ask the guys, they often lie. I've been putting this into practice and it's actually really funny because the guys will try to say that and I ask the girls and they go we just met. Did you come up with anything? Not that night. I wanted to say something like "You should lick it off!" But at the moment all I can think of is pretending to sniff it and saying it smells good, what is it lol OH MAN! I can't wait to read this! Please no the trauma! This is one way to do it. Another way to think about it is that if you build attraction, you can go back into the set later when they're in a better position logistically, or to use them as social proof for other sets. Ah this all makes a lot of sense, especially now that I've been doing night game a bit more. Gotta get those sets on the way from the bathroom! Not all your sets will open. You generally just follow best practices. Clearly her friends think it's about her and not about you or they ALL would have left. So that implies that it wasn't your problem but that girl's. Haha I hadn't even realized that. Yeah I guess the girl might have had some problem with guys. But some girls seem to do this regardless of the guy that's opening them or how. Is the answer just more social proof and DHVs in front of them without opening? Because short of running into extremely handsome guys that don't want the hottest girls, they seem to be at the club to blow guys out lol Woah, this sounds super hard but really exciting to try Yeah that seems like a very plausible theory. What kinds of facial expressions do you use? Do winks and smiles count? Or stuff like being really goofy? I've tried being silly and sticking my tongue out at girls but usually that goes terribly THIS IS GOOD! I'm going to use this! HAHA! Thanks! I thought it was pretty funny when I said it too This actually really helped me recently, trying to remember to at least look like a gentleman. Because typically I would try to be a gentleman but with game I kind of redid my social interactions from a blank slate and had to relearn what I can and can't use from the past. It helped my close HB Rumba though. Otherwise I would have been like oh shit drunk friend, probably isolation is the right move. This is very true in Japan especially and also in Korea. In fact, I'd say that in Japan the more attractive girls are far less likely to speak English. I would advise that you stick to gaming in Shinjuku, Shibuya and Roppongi to maximize your chances of opening girls who speak English at least decently. Most of the girls in Akihabara are super Japanese so they have no education and don't expose themselves to western entertainment media either. Glad I finally caught up on this. It was great having you come out for the boot camp and looking forward to hearing more about your Japan adventures! Yeah I'm wishing I learned katakana and hiragana before I came here this time, since it takes a lot of time to learn and all the good japanese apps use them. Oh well learning from girls is pretty good too lol! Yeah it's interesting too because I think the more I can hook in Japanese the more I realize that the types of girls I learned to game (because they speak English) have very similar backgrounds and tendencies to each other. Like you said at some point you'll learn to get the types of girls you pursue.
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