ShinChoc

"Yeah, I missed these in my read over. How did she respond to these?" ^^She responded really well to the studying Chinese, as we were lying in bed together going through my notes. Since it seemed like she was giving me a lot of resistance, and because I didn't want our time together to turn into me just trying to get sex out of her and her resisting, I backed off and had on do some painting instead on the floor beside my bed. "It's VERY, VERY rare for girls not to put up some kind of resistance. It's not the west and there has been on sexual revolution so even if they're totally down, they usually put up some level of resistance just to not appear slutty. Asian guys don't respect girls who like sex (except in Japan)." ^^Yea, I actually feel rather foolish now, because I realize that I likely could have had sex with her if I had pushed a little harder. I mean she was giving me almost ALL of the signals that I could look for- she pressed her body against me, she kino-ed on me a couple of times, she actually lied down on the middle of my bed without me having to tell her to, and she didn't resist much when I wrapped my arms around her chest and put pressure on her breasts. I should have pushed harder, but I wanted to show her that I valued her for more than sex (which, honestly, is probably false. Her main value offering to me is sex, so I guess I was being disingenuous by trying to make her think differently). "I think that this attitude might be holding you back from being more successful because instead of working hard at figuring out how and what you could do better you're letting yourself off the hook by saying that it's good to play it cool and not be interested." ^^I think that you may be right. I used to put lots of time and mental effort into figuring out how to improve with women, but ever since my relationship goals became having casual sexual relationships with attractive women, I haven't really been working as hard to improve as I used to. A part of me feels like it is easier to just start with new women, rather than try to figure out what is going wrong with my current women haha Here is what has transpired in the past few days: Yesterday at 12:21 a.m. she responded to my WeChat message that I sent Sunday about my room being very clean with a "!", which I take it means that she didn't see my message until just then (3 days later at midnight). I responded that morning with "delicious woman, I will have to eat you" with an attached picture of a painting of a wolf that I did. Later that day I sent her a picture of a delicious meal that I was eating with the caption "Happy lunch time, (her name) ". She didn't respond. I saw her later that day in class. I made sure to call on her in class and ask her what she planned on doing for this 3-day weekend we have coming up. I allow a 5-minute break during my class, and during the break I saw her taking selfies using a phone app that distorts you picture. In my class I frequently see her rest her head on her female friend's shoulder that sits next to her, as if she is having a hard time absorbing/staying focused on all of the information that is coming at her (she did this when we were watching a rap music video in class, which kind of disappointed me as I chose the video- LSD by Asap Rocky- because I thought it was very cool), but she usually pays attention to me when I am speaking in front of the class. Based off of her general demeanor, I am starting to think that this girl is an airhead. Anyway, she left class without saying anything to me. I called her later that night because I wanted to make a last-ditch effort to get her over to my home before she goes home for the weekend, but she didn't answer. I messaged her "I called your phone to make sure you are studying your English ;)". She didn't respond. Today I messaged her to come over and help me with my Chinese before she leaves, and she responded that she was doing her homework. I offered to cook lunch for her, and I messaged her pictures of some spaghetti noodles and marinara sauce, and she responded "sorry. Next timeis good". I responded "Today AND next time ;b" (I learned that from Redpole Q's text seminar haha), and then messaged her "so that I know, send me your class schedule". She didn't respond. 40 minutes later I sent her a picture of a bowl of spaghetti with marinara and cheese. She didn't respond. Today I happened to bump into her as she was going to get some medicine. I walked with her into the medicine shop. We walked to the school together and I tried to get her to come back to my home to get the painting that she did. She responded that she had to get on the bus and go to her hometown in 30 minutes, so she said "next time." During our conversation I managed to get her to show me her class schedule, and I took her phone and messaged her schedule to me so that I could have it. After resistance from her saying that she has "no time", I got her to reluctantly agree to meet me to cook lunch at my home on Tuesday. Today I also sent her some pictures of two girls that had come over to my home that I had cooked an omelet for

"First off though, it sounds like you really should have been working her neck and ears a lot more, because it sounds like you went straight for her legs. " ^^Yea, I probably could have been more aggressive, but I figured that the ball was in my court (with her being interested enough to get my contact info, come over to my home, and lie in my bed), so I didn't need to try to force the sexual interaction if she was being resistant. Since she seems to like me, and I will likely see her at least once a week in my class, I thought that it would be better to not act too thirsty for sex. Also, she told me that she didn't like my facial hair rubbing against her face, which slowed me down as well "Also, future projection is woefully missing. Also, not a lot of qualification. Sure you let her know you appreciate her for the things you did, but you didn't let her know that you appreciate any unique qualities about who she is as a person" ^^I tried to qualify her a little bit on how well she dressed (as she was dressed very sexily), but I couldn't really come up with much in the moment to say about her personality, because that was the first time we had met outside of the classroom. I did do some future projection by saying that she could help me with Chinese, and that I would give her some extra help with English, and also teach her how to paint (these were the main reasons that I pulled out my Chinese book and then my art supplies- because I wanted to get her introduced to studying Chinese and painting with me) "Not setting the next meet was a major mistake, but really, with no future projection, it's hard to imagine how you would have set it up. I think that your intentions for this girl need to be a lot more clear. Like are you trying to date her, or you just want her to come over and have sex with you occasionally or you just want to close her once or..?" ^^Yea, setting up the next meet totally slipped my mind until about 20 minutes after she had already left haha. Qualification and setting up the next date on the current date are the two areas that I am working to improve at now. In terms of my intentions for this girl, I just want her to come over and have sex with me occasionally. "Because maybe being more overt about everything with her, verbally would have been the way to go. Really hard to say though, because for all I know, she's just trying to get good English class grades and thinks that if the teacher thinks he'll get some, she will." ^^This completely possible, but I don't think so. I feel like there is a lot of physical attraction between us, she just had some kind of resistance to sleeping with me. "I was also wondering why so many weeks passed before you set up the meet since she seems to have come on pretty strong in the beginning..." ^^In the second paragraph of my first post I wrote about that. The day after we swapped contact information she messaged me, I sent her a picture of some spaghetti I was eating, she said that she wanted to eat some food that I made, and when I asked her what her schedule is, she didn't respond. She has developed the habit of starting off a text conversation with me, and then not responding when I message her back. Heck, the first time we hung out this past week, she tried to cancel on me the night before, but then I called her on the phone the next morning and got her to come over to my place. Anyway, she's a beautiful girl, and I'm sure she would be a fun sex-partner, but I'm not in dire need of her body at the moment. There are still about 11 or 12 more weeks of school left, and if I had to guess, she will likely come over to my at least a couple more times before the school term ends

Quick note before I head off to work: From 12p.m.-2:30p.m. is the designated lunch time/nap time of my college, which means that no classes happen during this time, and students are usually eating and then sleeping during this time. She just text messaged around 1 o' clock (phone text messaged, not WeChat messaged) me "what are youdoing now?" I was sleeping, so I responded to her 40 minutes later "I just woke up haha" and then I attached a picture of myself in my red sleeping robe to the next message. I then messaged her "what are you doing?" I wonder what she wants? ::UPDATE:: Our text conversation didn't really go anywhere. She responded to my question with "sleeping" Me: You copy me haha Me: Come paint with me tonight Me: Can you meet at 8? Her: ? ? Her: NO time Me: "copy me" means that you do the same thing as me Me: When will you have time- maybe tomorrow? She hasn't responded. Something is going on with this girl. She clearly is interested in me, but I think that her busy school schedule is what is slowing down my progressing our relationship.

Okay, so yesterday I tried to sleep with one of the female students from my English class. Here is the story: I met this girl in one of the English classes that I teach. During the first class of the semester, I like to do an "introduction" about myself. In the PowerPoint that I present to the students, I have lots of pictures of me doing cool things and being surrounded by beautiful women. I basically want to cement in the student's minds that I am a cool guy, and not a loser like most of their Chinese teachers. In the PowerPoint I talked about how one of my favorite hobbies is cooking, and as I went around the classroom getting everyone to talk about their hobbies, she said that she also enjoyed cooking. Anyway, she approached me after the class to ask for my WeChat information. I took this as a good sign, as she is very attractive, and it's always good when the girl is the first one to initiate things, right? She messaged me a little later saying that "cooking is great!" and I sent her a "thumbs up" sticker. The next day she messaged me again with a "Hi teacher" and we had a short convo. I sent her a picture of some spaghetti that I was eating, and she messaged me back saying "I want to eat some delicious food that you made". I messaged her back with a sticker and asked her "what does your schedule look like for the week?" She didn't respond, but the next day when I posted a picture on WeChat of the food I was eating for breakfast she messaged me saying "a substantial breakfast". Anyway, that was a couple weeks ago when we first started messaging. We haven't really messaged much, except when I sent her a picture of me in a field of sunflowers, and a couple days later she messaged me asking about something class related. After class this past week I sent her a picture of my dinner and asked her if she could cook it. She messaged me back the next day saying "easy". I responded saying that she can cook it with me. She messaged me back asking if she could call me chocolate (which is the name that I tell students they can call me ), we had a short convo, and I sent her a picture of me eating with my male friend who had taken me to a new restaurant. Anyway, I asked for her phone number, and I then called her, but she was in the library, so she couldn't talk to me. Anyway, long story short, I managed to get her to come over to my apartment on campus for breakfast this past Sunday. When I met her she was dressed very sexy. We walked up to my apartment. When she got into my apartment, she started cleaning and organizing my living room. I cooked some scrambled eggs for her, and I playfully massaged her shoulders as she washed the dishes. After I finished the cooking, I suggested that we go into my room. She sat on the bed eating as I sat at my computer. And then something interesting happened. As I was talking to her and showing her stuff on my computer, she got up and started pressing her leg against mine. I mean it was obvious pressing, as if she wanted physical contact with me. She then told me that she wanted me to eat the scrambled eggs with her, and she began spoon feeding me . Sensing that things were going in a good direction, I upped my kino and grabbed her legs and put them on top of me (she was sitting on the edge of my bed, and I was sitting in a chair, so it was easy for me to put her legs on top of my legs). I then lifted her up and put her on my lap. I pretended that I was going to drop her, and she wrapped her arm around my neck for a brief second before removing it. She then started cleaning my desk. As she stood with her back to me cleaning my desk I would occasionally kino her. I had her remove her coat because "it might be dirty", Anyway, she then began folding the big pile of clothes that I had lying on the floor. I would occassionally kino her by grabbing her and lifting her up, and she returned my kino on a couple of occassions. I picked her up and layed her on my bed and kissed her neck, but she told me no (in Chinese). After she folded my clothes she went over to my closet and grabbed my watches and lied on the middle of my bed. Sensing that something good might happen I lied on the bed with her and pulled her into me, wrapping my arms around her. I gave her a few kisses on the neck, and I starting rubbing my hand under her skirt, but she then told me to stop. (She also commented that she didn't like feeling of my beard stubble on her skin, which I thought wouldn't be such a big deal since I had just shaved the previous day, and my facial hair was still very short). I didn't want to make the mistake of letting her think that she was only useful to me for sex, so I grabbed my Chinese book and we went through some of my notes (we were still lying on my bed with her on top of me). Since it seemed like I wasn't going to get laid, I decided to ease up off of the touching and kissing her, and I suggested that we paint together (I am an artist, and I have many art supplies around my room). We sat on the floor and painted a picture together. Afterwards I asked her to pick the outfit that I would wear for the next day, and she did. I also had her iron my clothes. After she finished ironing, she told me that she had to go study in the library. I walked her to the front stairs of my building before saying goodbye to her. One mistake that I realized I made was that I let her leave without setting up the Day2. About an hour or so later I WeChat messaged her saying "My home is very clean now. Thank you ". She didn't respond. I saw her a couple hours later walking with another Chinese guy and kino-ing him (she briefly touched him on the shoulder). I waved "hi" to her as we walked past each other, but I could tell that something was going on between her and the other guy that made her seem a little reserved in that instant. I watched them as they walked into a building near the library. I figure that maybe the guy she was walking with is some potential beau that might be possible boyfriend/husband material, and maybe she is just interested in having me on the side, which is fine by me. I text messaged (not Wechat messaged) her later that night saying "Hey smart girl, the painting is now dry :)" with an attached picture of the painting we did together. I then followed up with "Can you come by tomorrow to get it?" She didn't respond. And that is the situation that we are in now. This girl doesn't seem to check her WeChat very often (or maybe she has a lot of people messaging her), as she often takes a long time to respond to my messages, or, in the case of the last messages I sent her, doesn't respond at all. Also, she speaks English decently, but she spoke to me a lot in Chinese, which tells me that she is still much of a novice in English. I feel like she definitely has to have some sexual interest in me, as she initiated physical touch on me multiple times during our time together. I have class with her again on Thursday. My plan right now is to play it cool and give her a chance to reapproach me (if she is still interested), but maybe you guys can suggest an alternative strategy?

Ya know, I've become increasingly size-conscious ever since I left America and moved to Asia. By that I mean that ever since I have moved over here, I have started to pay more attention to my physical characteristics, as well as the physical characteristics (mainly height) of other men. Let me give you some background on myself so that you can understand my situation. I am a black male. My mother was a retired military sergeant. When I was younger, my mother would often take me to the gym with her, and after watching her workout enough times, I began to start working out. I am pretty sure that I started lifting weights around my 5th grade year- basically I have been lifting weights since a very young age. Despite my weight lifting I was a chubby kid in middle school, and it wasn’t until high school that I really kicked my working out into high gear- reading health books, taking supplements like protein and vitamins, etc. At the height of my narcissism in high school, I would go around the city wearing a tank-top/wife-beater to show off my muscles. Because I was rather large, other people would always comment on my size. Men who were jealous of me would accuse me of using steroids, and more aggressive men would try to bring me down (I am/was a rather mild-manner, shy soul, and this demeanor was often taken as a sign of weakness by certain members of the black community). During this time I had run across The Art of Seduction, by Robert Greene, and I was becoming increasingly conscious of my abilities to attract women. The first time I had sex was during my 11th grade year of high school, and it was mainly because I had read the “Enter Action with Boldness” chapter in The 48 Laws of Power, which gave me the confidence to approach this girl who rode the bus to school with me haha. In college I studied engineering. Because of my hectic class schedule I wasn’t able to exercise as often as I wanted, but I still made time to practice my seduction tactics on women. And then I started to notice something- even though my physical appearance was going down (I didn’t have the six-pack that I have managed to get during my senior year in high school), my skills with attracting women were going up. At the time, It seemed like my physical appearance didn’t really matter that much when it came to interacting with women. It got to the point to where I felt comfortable allowing myself to be lazy and skip the gym because I knew that my looks didn’t matter that much. And then I moved to Korea. In Korea I worked as a hagwon teacher for elementary and middle school students. One thing that commonly happened while I was in the classroom with my students was that they would ask me how tall I am. I suddenly started to become conscious of my size relative to others (before I was just conscious of my own body relative to myself). Anyone who has been to Korea knows how tall the people there are. I had a couple of middle school students who were within an inch of being taller than me. Some of the Korean women that my friends and I hung out with said that they liked being with foreigners because we are taller than Korean men. I disagreed with one of them saying that Korean men are pretty tall, but she said that we, as foreigners, are taller. Okay, if you say so. Because I’m black, I also became aware of the obstacles that come with not having the “ideal” skin-tone in Asia, when it came to getting jobs and online dating (specifically Tinder) in Asia. The interesting thing is that I had tall, white friends in Korea, and I generally did a lot better in talking to women than they did, but they got laid more than I did (I didn’t get laid at all!) because they went to the bars and stayed out late drinking much more often than I did (that’s the main reason that I came up with- they put themselves in a position to get sex, specifically bar/one-night stand sex, more than I did). And then I moved to China. Anybody who has been to China knows that white-skin is considered the ideal over here. I mean, other countries in Asia might be subtle about it, but in China they will blatantly tell you- white is beautiful. Even if a person’s face isn’t that attractive, the fact that they have white skin can make them be “beautiful” over here. Since I don’t necessarily fit the ideal (although I don’t really think that has hindered my love life), I have become even more conscious of my appearance over here. The last time I went to the doctor and got measured a few years ago, they told me that I was 5 foot 10 inches- I will assume that I haven’t gotten any taller since then. In contrast to America and Korea, where I felt my height was more-or-less average compared to everyone else, in China, with my size and height, I tower over most people and take up more space/room than most people. One thing that I have found myself doing is that I have started to pay ample attention to my height compared to other men. For example, when I am walking around the college I work at, I might see a male student walking in the distance who seems rather tall compared to the women he is walking next to. To my delight, when the man comes closer to me, I find that I am taller than him! This has been a thing that I have found myself doing pretty much whenever I go outside of my apartment these days. I’m actually starting to get annoyed at myself for doing it so often. So, I am around 5 foot 10 inches, and I have the somewhat muscular body of a person who could be an amateur football player. Most of the men that I have seen who are taller than me usually have that “long and skinny” look, and I don’t know if that look is considered more attractive than my look. I feel like a lot of these “long and skinny” guys could up their attractiveness if they put on some muscle, rather than being so scrawny. I feel like Michael Phelps is a good example of a guy who has that “long and ripped” swimmer’s body that I think a lot of women find attractive (Phelps is 6 foot 4, by the way). Anyway, how does my size affect my dating life? Well, I tend to be most attracted to Asian women who I would describe as “small and cute.” (I suppose small is a relative term). As a matter of fact, I am dating an Asian women that I would describe as this type right now. As we were brushing our teeth together last week, I noticed how I towered over her small frame. In some ways, I feel like I have the ideal body type to get the types of women that I want. I am tall enough to be considered “tall” in Asia, but I am not so tall that I greatly inconvenience any of the small Asian women that I find myself so attracted to. Back in America, I had seen SO MANY examples in my youth of men who were smaller and physically weaker than me being able to attract women based off of their charisma and social influence (I can think of a few rappers/musicians who are small in stature that are able to command crowds based off of their charisma). I’d seen it so often that I just completely discounted the “physical looks” category in its effect on attracting women, but now it seems that I have regressed. About a month ago I started a new workout program to get myself back in shape, and I have noticed that it has increased my physical confidence and my posture when I am walking around my college. What do you guys think about your relative size/height/appearance compared to your male “competition” in Asia? Has your body helped or hindered your game? Are you content with your physique? I'm looking forward to hearing your replies!

Thanks for all of the advice, RedpoleQ. I have decided to stop playing games with women, and to always reward them for doing behavior that I like. "We can't be sure, but it seems pretty clear that her boyfriend is either sleeping with other women, or not treating her well in other ways, or both." ^^When her and I first started having sex, she told me that she and her boyfriend didn't have sex as much as they used to (she even said that she thought he might be gay). She has a very interesting relationship with her boyfriend in that he is the SUPER-jealous type (which, I've found, is typical of Asian men). Her boyfriend wants to marry her, and he was even introduced her to his family. I am pretty sure that she doesn't want to marry him, but her fear of being alone is keeping her from breaking free of him. One time when she had broken up with him, and she wouldn't answer his calls (she was staying with me that night, and I was trying to give her the strength to break up with her boyfriend), he called her friends asking them where she was. A couple of weeks ago her boyfriend moved into her apartment with her (she told me his family wants to start some kind of desert cafe in this city), so it has been difficult to meet with her. "I wouldn't feel sorry for her or worry about her cheating. I'd probably stop seeing her all together and try to get into healthier relationships with new girls. since this one is obviously making you unhappy." @donburi It's not that she's making me unhappy, it's just that I set up a bad dynamic in this relationship. She has still shown me interest in terms of her being willing to meet me and have sex, but the fact that her boyfriend is now living with her makes things more difficult for her to meet with me. I want to keep her around for the occasional booty call (and she seems okay with that), so we shall see how things go.

*This is a somewhat lengthy FR, but it is definitely worth your time to read! Here is the story: I have been sleeping with this Chinese girl since September. Let's call her Bahm. I met her because she was in my class. I noticed her on the first day of class, and I was particularly interested in her, but she didn't seem to show any interest in me. To my surprise, after class I was walking home and she ran after me and asked for my contact information, on the premise that we could "hangout." (By the way, that class was cancelled, so the first day of class was also the last day of class, so I wasn't officially her teacher anymore) I gave her my contact information. She messaged me a couple of times, but I didn't respond to her (I had fallen for a Chinese girl I had sex with the previous week, and I was busy trying to keep her interested in me. It didn't work). Bahm messaged me one night to go walking around campus, and I was tempted to turn her down (I didn't want to seem to available), but I decided to go ahead and do it. Her and I walked around the campus, and she told me that she was having trouble with her boyfriend. I invited her to my apartment for tea. We ended up in my room, and I had her ironing my clothes for the previous day. I sat on the computer trying to prepare my PPT for the class I had the next day. As I was sitting and typing on the computer, she began to rub up on me, and then she wrapped her arms around me. I took the hint, put on some music by The Weeknd, stood up, took my glasses off, and proceeded to kiss her. We then had sex. During the first week that we were having sex (we had sex two days in a row), she made it clear to me that she wanted an exclusive relationship with me (I had brought up the idea of her doing threesomes with me, and she said that she just couldn't do that). I guess that she was willing to break up with her boyfriend for me. She would message me frequently, and I would frequently ignore her messages (Once I have a woman's interest, I like to occasionally play it somewhat cruel and disinterest- it keeps them on their toes and keeps them from taking me for granted). I even messaged her pictures of other women that I was hanging out with (making her think that I was sleeping with other women), just to make her jealous. She would continue to slavishly message me to meet up for sex. Mind you that she is still in a relationship with her boyfriend, so I am playing the role of the guy on the side. Whenever she would come over to my house, I would play it cool (as if I could take sex or leave it), and she would eventually sexually escalate on me. We occasionally did other things together besides sex (we ate at a restaurant together one time, etc.) Sometimes I would message her for sex, and she would say that she is too busy. One time she denied me for sex three times in a row, and I went cold on her. I stopped responding to her messages, and I posted lots of pictures on WeChat of the awesome things going on in my life. This brought her back around, and she messaged me for sex a couple of days later. This has become a pattern for us. She will do something that I don't like- such as denying me sex, or acting really guilty for cheating on her boyfriend (and then denying me sex), and I will withdraw from her, which will eventually make her contact me, giving me what I want. Around November, her behavior started to change. She stopped contacting me for sex, and she became increasingly passive. Instead of her coming after me for sex, I had to start pushing her for sex. Normally, whenever she would come over to home, she would begin to sexually escalate on me, but suddenly things changed. I would see her sitting on my bed holding herself back, keeping her distance from me, which forced to escalate on her. I would sometimes be successful in my escalating on her, and other times she would deny me/it would be too difficult to turn her on sexually. I didn't like how passive she was becoming, so I tried to revive the relationship by being romantic with her (giving her a drawing I made, giving her a gift for our 3-month anniversary, trying to text her more often to show her that I value her for more than sex, etc.). It didn't really seem to work. My coworker and her Now, here is where things get really interesting. Back when the class that I was teaching for her got cancelled (back in September), she got put into a class with my coworker. My coworker is a tall, intellectual, half-black/half-Mexican guy who speaks pretty fluent Mandarin. A part of me kind-of knew that she would be a little bit interested in him, but I figured since I had already had sex with her, I had staked my claim. My coworker and I live two doors down from each other, and one night when him and I were walking back to our apartments, him and I ran into her as she was waiting to meet me. Since she is a student in his class, he was surprised that I was meeting with her (I told him that she was my Chinese teacher). They spoke to each other in Chinese, and I went inside my apartment. A couple of minutes later she came into my apartment. For some reason, my coworker messaged me "hahahahaha". I showed Bahm the message, and she didn't seem to get what it meant. Her and I then had sex. A few days later my coworker shows me his phone, telling me that Bahm had messaged him asking for his WeChat information (my coworker has a message group for his students, so that he can message them with class related things). He asked me if I had sex with her, and I feigned innocence, saying that she was just my Chinese teacher (which was a lie). He asked me this because he was insinuating that he was going to try to have sex with her if I hadn't already staked my claim in her. I could have told him that I was already sleeping with her, but something inside of me said that would be an insecure thing to do, as I didn't want to control her (and I didn't want to reveal my sexual activity to my coworker). I'm starting to think this was a mistake. As time passed (see all of the things that I wrote in the first few paragraphs), I started to become jealous and insecure. Sometimes I would look over at her phone and see her messaging my coworker. One day I jealously tried to grab her phone to see what they were messaging each other, and she wouldn't let me see her phone (At this point she didn't know that I knew her and my coworker were messaging each other). I even went through her phone one time, and scrolled to my coworker's contact info, and showed it to her, asking her in a joking manner why she had his contact information. She said because he was her teacher, and I didn't push the conversation any further (I didn't want to make it too obvious that I was jealous). Things came to a head one night (during the month of December) when I caught her going into his apartment one night. I had walked up behind her as she was entering his apartment, and I walked into his house. He said that he was "sick as fuck", and she said that she was bringing him medicine. As I walked out of the apartment, I said "Have fun", and closed the door behind me. The next day she messaged me, asking if she could meet me. She came over my apartment, and she tried to explain to me that nothing happened the previous night with my coworker. I was really horny, so I wanted to have sex with her, before the possibly serious discussion could ruin my chances at getting laid. She told me she was on her period, and I suggested that she give me a blowjob. She resisted, saying "Don't make me do this", but eventually I had her on her knees giving me a blowjob. After cleaning her up, we talked and she told me nothing happened between her and my coworker, and that he simply was getting her help with medicine, and that they watched a music video on his computer. I revealed to her that I had known about her and my coworker communicating with each other since the day they first swapped contact information, and that he had told me she asked for his contact information. I was trying my best to not show any jealousy, and I told her that if she was interested in my coworker, I would have no issue with her having fun with him, and if she wanted to keep her relationship going with me, that was her decision (I was doing my best to show her that I would enjoy her company if she stayed with me, and that I had no issue with her leaving me for another man). She scrunched her lips up, as if she was turning it over in her head, and then she said something along the lines of "I'm not really interested in him". We then kissed and snuggled with each other. The next week or so she came back over to my apartment. We watched 50 Shades of Grey. I hadn't expected her to come over that day, so I had already masturbated that day. I figured that just watching a movie with her and not trying to have sex with her (since I wasn't horny anymore) would show her that I value her for more than sex. Also, I had a meeting in an hour, so she could only stay for a short while. Before she left she told me that she just wanted to be friends with me, and that she didn't want to hurt her boyfriend anymore. I said okay, and I didn't try to change her mind (I know how she frequently changes her mind, so I didn't really take what she was saying too seriously. Finals week rolls around. I had just taken RedpoleQ's Texting Mastery Seminar, and I was trying a new strategy of texting women more often, and not taking it personally when they don't respond. At first Bahm responded positively, but eventually she started going somewhat cold (she ignored some of my calls and messages, which I didn't really like since at the beginning of our relationship she was the one messaging me, and now here she was ignoring some of my messages two or three times in a row). She even flaked on meeting with me one night, saying that she was going to go get a puppy. I didn't like the dynamic that was being set up, so I stopped messaging her for a few days. During the last day before campus closed for winter vacation, she messaged me asking if we could meet. I eagerly agreed, and then a couple of hours later she cancelled the plans on me, saying that she had to pack some things for her trip home the next day. I sent her about 4 or 5 messages in response, saying that she had been acting rude towards me, and that I didn't want to speak with her until she changed her disrespectful attitude. She messaged me back apologizing, but I didn't respond. During the winter vacation she messaged me on three separate occasions, and I didn't respond to her (I wanted her to feel the pain that come with taking me for granted). School started again about a month and a half later. I wanted to have sex with her, so I was tempted to message her, but I held myself back, because I wanted her to message me first. Last night The dorms on campus close at 11p.m. every night. That means students need to be back in their dorms by this time. The walls in the teacher's apartments are very thin, and I am able to hear doors close, even when the room with the door closing is two doors down. My coworker's room is two doors down, so I know whenever I hear a door close at night and it is 20-30 minutes before 11p.m., it is likely that some student that he is hooking up with/is trying to hook up with is leaving his apartment. Last night I heard his front door close around 10:35p.m., and my curiosity got the best of me. I wanted to see who it was. I went outside of my apartment to see Bahm walking towards the stair well. I was wearing a robe and socks, and I quietly ran after her, and came up on her as she was reaching the bottom of the stairwell. She apologized to me for her rude behavior (I was expecting her to admit that she just had sex with my coworker, but that comes later). I convinced her to come back upstairs and spend the night with me. After sex (thanks to RedpoleQ for sharing the awesome sex techniques!), her and I got to talking about things. I asked her if she had slept with any other men during the past two months, and she said no. She told me that she was just recording music in my coworkers room (my coworker produces music). Later in the conversation, I managed to trick her into admitting that she had sex with my coworker back in December/January (she said that she couldn't remember exactly). She said they had sex twice on the same night a couple of weeks before the winter vacation (I wonder if this is before or after she told me that she didn't want to hurt her boyfriend anymore), and that she asked him if he wanted to have a serious relationship, and he said no. (She told me that if my coworker had agree to an exclusive relationship with her, she would have broke up with her boyfriend) The fucked up thing about the situation is that she said "it just happened", when in fact she knew damn well that she was putting herself in a position for sex to happen with my coworker by going over to his house at night . She said that was the only time they had sex, and that they were just working together on music now. I also revealed to her that my coworker had a Korean girlfriend back in America he had been dating for 3 years, and that he was planning on marrying when he goes back to America, and she was shocked (my coworker hadn't told her he had a girlfriend). She said that she felt he had wronged her by not mentioning his girlfriend to her (which is kind of silly, considering that she has been cheating on her boyfriend with two black guys!) I was somewhat relieved by her revelation- I had been jealousy listening to hear my coworker's door every night since school started back, because I was expecting to catch her in there again. I was also relieved because my imagination of her having sex with him was a lot worse than the reality of the situation. I never would have known they had sex if she hadn't of told me, and I likely could have gone the rest of my life without knowing, and it wouldn't really have affected anything. Now, I figure that there is a high chance that her and my coworker will have sex again (especially since she is going over to his apartment late at night to record music), and I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean, I enjoy spending time and having sex with her, but the idea of sharing a woman with my coworker kind of disgusts me. She weakly put up the front that her relationship with my coworker will be just about making music, but I know her well enough to know that she will likely have sex with my coworker again, if she just so happens to be feeling horny or particularly dissatisfied with her boyfriend one day. Her and I agreed to be just friends and hangout as friends, but even after we said that I ended up fingering her asshole . This morning after she left my apartment (I offered to meditate with her to calm her nerves, but she had an early class and had to leave), we had this text exchange: Her: It hurts me... Physically hurts me....." Me: (Funny meditating emoticon) Me: All hurt is in the mind. When you change your thoughts, the hurt changes to pleasure and an enjoyment of life, and the world becomes a lot more fun. Her: I would think about your words. I would like to continue having a sexual relationship with this girl, but she seems very mentally confused. She expresses guilt in cheating on her boyfriend (a boyfriend who she says that she really loves, and who makes her "wetter" than any other man), and she can't seem to come to terms with the fact that she still desires to sleep with other men because her friend isn't satisfying her all of the way/she isn't ready for the "exclusive" relationship that she claims she wants. She seems to love her boyfriend (or at least she says she does ), but she can't reconcile this with her constant cheating. I feel kind of sorry for her, because she seems so lost and unhappy in her current relationships, but I know that if she doesn't sleep with me, she will eventually find another man to cheat with (probably my coworker, again). Even though we had sex last night, she isn't in my "Top 5" because she hasn't shown enough reliability for consistent sex. What do you guys think? I look forward to hearing from you guys

Great questions/suggestions! "I think though that you might need to work out (if you haven't already) some specific criteria for kicking girls out of the top 5 and replacing them." ^^Well, to even be considered for eligibility in my top 5, the ladies have to meet certain criteria: 1) They have to be what I consider to be attractive- looks and personality wise 2) I prefer women who have shown me interest, rather than women who are playing it cool/hard to get 3) They have to show me (either subtly or not-so-subtly) that they are physically open to me, at least in some small way (from holding hands all the way up to physical penetration). In the past I have made the mistake (?) of going after virginal/innocent women, and I have seen how big of a headache they are to try to open up. It is much easier (smarter?) to go towards women whose worldviews make them at least a little bit sexually open. 4) I prefer it if they respond eagerly and with keen interest to me when I contact them to hang out (or when I contact them in general). I know that attractive Asian women tend to not respond to all of a man's messages, but I can't help but show a preference for women who more often than not respond with interest to whatever I message them, whether I message them a picture or an invitation to meet up. Women who didn't make the cut of my top 5 were generally women who didn't fully meet criteria #2-4. My brain works better when I have systems/frameworks available for me to follow, which is why I really like this "Top 5" idea that I have decided to pursue "We have two artists (myself included) as far as I know in the group. " ^^Nice to meet you donburi. I'm currently working with abstract art paintings. What kind of art do you work with? "4 or 5 women sounds like a lot of time commitment unless they're really hot, then they might not respond that much" ^^donburi, I think that you are right. Ideally, I would have just 3 women that I expend most of my mental and physical energy pursuing, and the extra 2 women would be women who I just casually message without too much planning/forethought. As a matter of fact, I think that is the framework I will follow! RedpoleQ, how do you manage maintaining relationships with the women you have already sexually "seduced", while continuing to go out and get more women? The last time you and I spoke, you named off a long list of women that you have been getting/have gotten sexual pleasures from on a semi-regular basis. How do you manage so many women?

Today I've decided to start trying a new approach to how I will manage seducing/pursuing multiple women at the same time. I've decided to limit the number of women that I am actively pursuing to no more than 5 of the best, top-quality women that fit my current desires. The reasons for this are several. First, at this point in my life, I am all about balance. I've got a good handle on the main aspects of my life (I'm making progress in my goal to start an art business, I'm exercising regularly and eating healthy, and I know enough about women that I don't need to expend tons of mental energy trying to seduce any one woman just for the experience). I want to keep things balanced, and pursuing too many women at a time takes too much mental energy and time. Second, by having multiple women in my life, I can keep a mindset of abundance (I won't feel at a loss if one women is too busy to meet with me, or if one woman goes cold on me for whatever reason), while keeping the number low enough that I can provide individualized, focused attention to these women without tiring myself out too much (I generally like to write down/map out a specific strategy for how I will seduce a women, so keeping the number of women that I am seducing to a manageable number will make this much easier!). Third, I increase my chances of getting sex, since it is always smarter to keep your eggs in multiple women's baskets, rather than just one . Having multiple women in my life also means that I have access to a wide range of women that I can hangout with sexually AND socially I won't completely forget about the other women in my life who aren't in my "Top 5". I will occasionally text and message them to hangout, but they likely won't factor too much into my life, besides maybe using them for triangulation/jealousy plotlines. Maybe these other women can break into my Top 5 if they throw some sex at me, but until that happens, I won't pay them too much mind. Let's try it out!

I will be in Hong Kong on February 10th. I will only be there for a day, from about 10a.m. to 7p.m. If any of you guys in Hong Kong want to kick it/game chicks with me for an afternoon, hit me up! I will be available to meet you at the airport, or any place that I can reach by train from the airport.

Thanks for the warm welcome, guys I will be in Hong Kong this Wednesday, February 10th. If you know any guys from the community who would like to kick it with me for an afternoon, let me know!

Hello everyone! I'm new to this forum. I will keep my intro short and sweet~ Name: I go by the name of Chocolate. Aesthetics: I'm a black male. My height is about 183cm. With my shirt on I look like an amateur body builder. With my shirt off I look like an out-of-shape body builder haha. Hobbies/Passions: My current goal is to become a painter and sell my art to wealthy Chinese people (you guys have any wealthy Chinese that you can introduce me to?? ). I also plan to start back playing the saxophone (I played the sax for 7 years when I was a kid, and I have decided to start back playing it because-besides the fact that I really love the sound of the saxophone- of the social and sexual benefits that being a musician will give me ) Experience in Asia: I taught English at a hagwon in South Korea for a year, before moving to my current location at a college in China Favorite books: The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene (I love all of Robert Greene's books ). The Way to Love by Anthony de Mello (I love all of Anthony de Mello's books as well ) I am currently working in the Sichuan province part of China. I really love it here. Before I came to China I was in South Korea for a year. I know that RedpoleQ really recommends South Korea as a great place to get hot women, but to be honest, I didn't really like it there that much. I lived in Daegu, and I was actually very social while I was there (I had a decent social circle of foreigner friends, as well as a few Koreans that occasionally joined us). I didn't get laid at all during my time in South Korea, but I did get pretty good at social circle game, and I learned a lot about sexual escalation and seduction in general. During my last month in South Korea I lived in Seoul, and while I did appreciate the large (compared to Daegu) number of women there who spoke decent English, I knew in my heart that South Korea wasn't the right place for me. It's really a shame because, before I got to Korea, I was planning on making a life as an entrepreneur in Korea, but luckily China has been everything (and more!) for me that I hoped Korea would be! My life in China is pretty awesome. I'm a teacher at a college in a (by Chinese standards) small college town. I work less than 16 hours a week (which is awesome compared to the hellish work schedule that I had in South Korea). It is only me and about 5 other foreigners in town, and I have been benefiting greatly from the foreigner effect. In the past 5 months I have had about 5 women in my bed. 2 of the 5 women I had intercourse sex with. 1 of the 5 women I am currently getting blowjobs from (I am working my way up to getting her virginity). And 2 of the 5 girls I had lying topless on my bed as I sucked on their breasts (I am currently working on getting the virginity of one of these girls). I know being tall, white, and handsome is the ideal here in China, but I have found many women who have shown sexual interest in me, despite the fact that I am black, bald, and love to wear bright colors (particularly the color PINK ). I see my options with the women in China expanding each month as I slowly increase my proficiency with the Chinese language. Something tells me that by this time next year my game will be deadly As for my taste in women... I (of course) have a preference for the exotic (not just Asian, but pretty much any women who looks like she is from outside of America). I've noticed that a woman has immense power to attract me based on how she is dressed (many of the women I am currently pursuing caught my interest because of their sense of fashion). I have a fetish for bright colors, particularly the color PINK (Chinese women love to wear the color pink ). All it takes is an exotic looking woman (preferably Asian), who has the types of fashion sense (leather pants and the color pink get her instant access to my bedroom) and hygiene (no hair on her body below her nose) that I find attractive, and I'm charmed. I'm currently trying to build a harem of Chinese women that I can live out my desires for sexual variety with. Maybe when I reach the age of 45 I will start to think about marriage... but until then... I look forward to getting to know you all!