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19 DEC Tue, Shinjuku HUB again, upstairs was dead so went to downstairs Only open decent looking set. Opened around 830pm. 3 set of girls all at least bangable, opened with you're all sisters and awkwardly sat down in their open seat on the bench side of their table and just started going lol. Mostly tried attraction and comfort, I still want to SNL the girls who aren't really good like the ones I met Saturday, but I need to switch to doing more proper qualification when it's been over a couple hours probably because it seems inevitable they start seeing me as more of a long term prospect (it seems) because when I don't qualify very much or very well they start to seem kind of unhappy and lower compliance than I'm used to. Today as well I ran the set for about 3 hours, I tried to bounce and they were all like "have fun we already ate!" and I couldn't think of a better bounce location at 930 on a Tuesday but figured we were in the back of the room at a hard to reach table. About 2 hours in the table of 2 guys next to us tried to get in on the set and opened my target because she was closest (well, one of my two targets I guess. I kept trying to push for more logistics and that type of info to figure out which was highest probability lol, maybe they sensed that but they both wanted to exchange line at the end of the night and seemed very happy and hugged me lol. The two Japanese dudes just chatted us up the rest of the night till the girls decided to go home and they gave up and told me good luck lol. I walked the girls to the station and said goodbye then jogged home for fun. At one point in the set they asked me what my favorite Japanese word was (about 30-45 minutes in) and I took some time to think and said Shibari lol. I explained it, albeit not super elegantly, and they all refused to believe it was a Japanese thing. The girls looked it up eventually and said it was only something police used to do, not a sexual thing so I didn't know where to go from there lol. They all sat there going no, Japanese girls would never do that, for like 5 minutes lmao, it got pretty awkward as I think it was one of those they wanted to protect their own image moments so I probably hadn't done enough no judgement type stories already. On the jog home I opened a hostess/dancer girl in a dark underpass and kept plowing for about 2 minutes until she chuckled then I kinoed her and started talking. She was cute so I let her Line close me even though I knew it was for work probably (I probably should have resisted a bit lol since she's a hostess type) and she caught a cab home after about 6-9 minutes and I continued jogging. Should have pushed for her to come to my place just because she's the only solo set I've seen in forever that wasn't in a rush. Things I did well: -Didn't get so caught up in what is a polite custom or not and went for trying to get results -Successfully opened a girl in the dark alone by labeling the situation and mirroring her behaviors a bit -Dealt with the two Japanese dudes reasonably well even though they made sure to speak fast and softly enough I didn't understand half of what they said lol (unless they were saying that if I were Japanese I wouldn't get away with doing nanpa so easily LMAO!!) Things I will do better: -Continue to practice my hero stories, they're getting better though -Figure out how to isolate better, it sucks only being here for a short period of time and not having a wing most nights to make things fun and more efficient -Sexualize more and figure out how to tell my stories for that better, and remember the ones I used to use well
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18 DEC Monday Shinjuku HUBs Nightgame I've decided to bitch out and go for the bar route trying to find the left over girls who don't have boyfriends for Christmas and I'm still losing lol. Not sure if variance or just shit lol. Definitely a factor is me still needing to read situations better. Got to Shinjuku about 9pm, First HUB is dead, top floor HUB is dead too but there's a 2 set of at least 4s sitting there and I figure I can at least try for an SNL. Open, try @Taisho's hero story about Skydiving that starts with a hook for a change and it hits pretty well. They keep apologizing and I say it's okay, what you both have boyfriends? Yes sorry. This is my life now hahaha. Went to the next HUB and considered just opening street sets but the next one was pretty busy. Do a pretty shit open by knocking on the table and saying white, white, black, you're the bad girl, on a pretty good set of young girls and they just all go silent and don't acknowledge me lol. I decide to keep going for a minute and they just sit there. I need to come up with some really silly BT spikes for when they're doing stuff like that so it's harder to just ignore me lol, because it seems that's kind of an invitation to be more interesting, I'm just not in it lol, and my silly Japanese is shit lately. Talk to a 3 set of dudes just shooting the shit for 2 or 3 minutes and figure I'll at least make some allies while I get over being a bitch. They get called to a table and I walk right next to them and open the 2 set of 21 year olds at the next table lol. Super easy open, I like your friend's uniform. (It's one of those outfits that everyone in Japan has lol.) They speak next to no English but want to learn. It's their first time in the HUB. I keep doing some BT spikes and a bit of attraction when I can fit it in. My target is pretty all over the map and it's only getting more all over the map as she drinks. My target is half Korean and apparently athletic and can just go all night but she's actually kind of chubby but she's got those nice highlights. The obstacle is her best friend from high school and they both say they're a bit chubby but I find out later she actually has a much better figure lol, her face is still a 5+ only though. She however has her composure and as I'm doing attraction for my target she gets more and more interested lmao. I was in between both girls and kinoing both just running the two set, at one point wondering if I should just try and push for a threesome SNL because I had good compliance. I was thinking to try and bounce them so I kept seeding places (though some were in Osaka so that was useless) and my target would interrupt me a bunch lol. I also should have just finished what I was saying then gone back to her. They both had half their drinks left at 1030 and I wanted to bounce them but didn't want to say so before they were close to done (no idk why I thought that was smart either.) Enter phase 2, EVERYONE in the bar comes to try and join my set lmao. First 2 older J dudes come in and I just physically isolate my target and kino her and motion and open up the actually better girl to them (didn't know at the time.) They spent a while talking to me and just letting me DHV the shit out of myself and lost hope and left lol. I go back to running the still very compliant 2 set and suggest a bounce to the arcade I think? Then a 3 set of 2 English and 1 Nepalese married dude come in to try and steal both girls from the other side of my set lol. 1 British dude offers to buy them drinks and they accept. The Nepalese dude is just trying to AMOG me while he talks to my target who I start to lose because I'm already running out of routine stack that I remember and he basically just gets to run his routine lol, which is loud AF bad Japanese (reminds me of me last time I was here lmao!) Funnily the obstacle is actually just looking at me all the time and kinoing me and trying to get me to translate for her too (which also hurt my ability to run the target) but I basically sit there running this mess while kinoing my target's back until about 1130 when the Nepalese and 1 English dude go home, leaving me with the guy who bought them more drinks lol, which was funny because the Nepalese dude had my targets attention really well. We continue to run the 2 set till midnight, where they both miss their last train, very knowingly lol. I think it's in the bag but the British guy offers to buy them MORE drinks and I just translate for them and do some frame setting which the obstacle is buying super hard and my target is just airheaded and looking for a sugar daddy it seems haha, which I ALSO should have picked up on way earlier. Eventually the British guy is super thankful for my translating and I've got my back turned to my target as she looks at him and keeps trying her English. He then makes a comment about the obstacle having great clothes (she doesn't) and thinks she's beautiful (she isn't) but it was really funny because he asks me to translate and I do and now my target has noone paying attention to her lol. Honestly if we just switched targets way earlier we could have closed as the obstacle has been giving me nonstop IOIs and just watching me the whole time and my target has been doing the same to him. Pretty hilariously bad game from the two of us but oh well. We bounce them to the street and intend to do karaoke but it's 5000 yen per person and I was like nah my target wasn't walking straight and was a bit chubby (in America still an automatic 7 but I wasn't feeling like dealing with it.) The guy offers to pay and I said maybe I'll just go home and pretty much blew up the set. We might have been able to escalate and bang them both in the karaoke room but if either of us fucked up it would have gone very poorly. Not to mention neither of us isolated our targets for shit, the obstacle kept reverse kinoing me and he kept talking to my target nonstop lol. He ends up catching a taxi after about 15 more minutes and I walk home (my target asks if I'm really that hurting for money, and I just said I'm basically getting paid 30 bucks to walk for an hour lol. Seems like a win win) I had Line closed both girls earlier in the set with the promise of running a double date so at least I have their Lines but fuck if I didn't fuck that all up lol. They both texted me as the target's brother came to pick them up and drive them back to Chiba and said thanks and they had a lot of fun lol. We'll see where it goes but I need a lot more Japanese and social stamina to really run these multi hour sets smartly. Things I did well: -Made all the other guys in the bar jealous again -Ran decent attraction and comfort and sexualization (though I kind of ask sexy questions and stuff and then stop, that's probably bad huh) -Triangle gazing early in set seemed to have a good response at first. -Split the girls up -Ran a long set and dealt with a lot of people trying to take the set Things I will do better: -Get better at sexual questions and hooks in Japanese -Pick my target better! -TRY FOR BOUNCE AND ISOLATION ASAP -Never DLV, it's amazing that these girls who aren't even that amazing can latch onto DLVs (though even the obstacle said my target was an airhead lol) Realizations: -Maybe I'M the airheaded friend lol. I feel like I used to be my target, just oblivious to the situation and all over the place lol. Plus I couldn't even choose the hotter girl and the 42 year old British dude recognized instantly lol. -I saw a guy refuse to pay to go to a club with us once and the girl was all about it and went with him even though they just met, thinking I could pull that off while having low compliance from one and the "wing" targeting the one who was high compliance clearly wasn't going to work lol -Some dudes coming into your set and just talking to the girls is definitely not something I should just allow because I CAN deal with it. I should still go for the first option of dismissing them with a "do you know these guys?" -Though the girls were definitely enjoying all the attention, they even said so lol. They even said "man this table is a really good spot" lmao!
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17 DEC Sat Nightgame Went to Shinjuku HUB as suggested by @Taisho at 930 then to Camelot in Shibuya at 1130 HUB First 3 set, about 90 minutes. Walked to some random place also called the HUB by accident but then got to the South exit Shinjuku HUB and was directed upstairs because it was busy. Walked in, saw a lot of not great, then a cute 3 set and decided to open. Don't even remember what I said and I'm pretty sure it was stupid but they hooked super easily in English. My target's friends went to the bathroom and stuff multiple times leaving her with me, at which points I tried to progress the sarge as much as possible. She's from nearby Nakano like me so that's good, but she's also busy all next week with plans with friends and going to see her family for Christmas. Made sure to push as much attraction as I could remember, and she seemed to get very interested and kind of jealous when her friends were talking to me lol. Timebridging was tough because as I said she was talking about being busy all next week when I threw out a rough day then said next week. Is there a better way to go about time bridging that I forget? Set ended with me telling them to come get ramen but they said they'd miss last train so I walked them to the station and waved goodbye, still not enough intense eye contact with my girl. Camelot Ran there because I wasn't sure if there was a before midnight discount, there wasn't. Got inside and just walked around looking like I was having a good time to get a lay of the land. EDM (?) on the first floor, Rock/Rap type stuff on the 2nd floor, Kpop on the third floor. A good amount of decent girls around, though according to the Japanese dude I ended up hanging out with from the mixed set they were mostly mask beautiful lol. Opened the mixed 3 set while walking around, was just high fiving people as I walked when they seemed fun lol. Started with a couple opens that tried to blow me out, did well at acting unphased and just continuing to have fun while they acted rude lol. Opened a girl who looked like my high school crush after walking around on the kpop floor a second time and chilling with a 2 set for a few minutes. She was super easy to open and enjoyed interacting with me it seemed. Figured out the guy behind her who was super peacocked up was her friend a Korean guy she met in Japan, turns out he knows a bunch of kpop artists irl and is trying to become a DJ. I asked her because he seemed unhappy about me interacting with her lol. We danced for a while and in some lulls in the music (and using all my brainpower to remember my routine stack) I did a bunch of attraction and stuff when I could and qualified her a bit on her dancing. She was very good at dancing and it looked great, did the bit about we should go scubadiving right now and she loved it lol. I ended up Line closing in front of her friend though I probably could have kept waiting for a good moment but I was going to start losing her attention more. I told her that she should give me fashion advice, and she seemed a little unhappy, then I said and we'll go scubadiving and she seemed much happier LOL! Ejected pretty well I think with good eye contact and smiles. Open a couple more sets and am having a great time just kind of bopping through the crowds on the dance floors looking for the best girls to open, and the mixed 3 set opens me again and wants to dance lol. The guy motions for me to come with them and this time I oblige because I reread my last FRD lol! Even better I pretty much maintain the lead anyway and dictate what's going on and make sure the 3 set is all doing okay etc. The guy is the only one dancing with me but he's having a lot of fun (not sure if he's bi lol) but everyone around us was enjoying the energy lol, missed a chance to bring a really good looking girl into the dance circle but I had decided to stick with this set the rest of the night anyway because my target was definitely better than average that night (WITHOUT a mask lol!) and seemed keen. The guy goes to the bathroom and I take the chance to chat up my target, so are you guys bf/gf? No. Thank goodness! I hug her towards me from the side lol. She likes that. I do my basic attraction stuff and pump a good amount of it to get her interested, then qualify her on being a teacher. There are 3 German dudes all trying to get at her as well and the guy is also helping me isolate and keep her away from them (most of the time) lol! It was a pretty hilarious dynamic. At some point she's chilling on the wall after making a bathroom stop and we had gone searching for them on the other dancefloor, and the German dudes were all over her lol. Some GLG German dude was all up in her business leaning in to talk in her ear and I just walked up beside her and kinoed her back and let him go for a while lol. I'd pull her towards me and make her listen to whatever tf I could come up with but do it in as alpha a way as possible and the difference in status was amusing haha! Eventually the Japanese dude helped me bounce the set downstairs to the edm floor where we danced a bit but mostly talked. I had to deal with the obstacle blatantly trying to get me to fuck her lol, and my target trying to help her friend. I used the line I read from @ShinChocI think it was that I needed an emotional connection first lols! I talked a lot about sex to my target and did some sex seminar stuff and she loved it, she acted super embarrassed but she was getting more kino compliant and looking at me more with those eyes, especially after I did the part about long relationships and sex. The set started to get pretty hard as the obstacle got more persistent trying to bang me and at one point was saying something pointing at the guy and girl saying they're what sounded like "swingers" lol, she spoke some English so maybe she did mean that! My target told her she was being obnoxious lol. We all started to get tired (my Japanese got super hard after sitting in that smoky building with almost no water for 4 hours lol) and I just stuck it out and hung with them. We went to the kpop floor at some point and I reopened Kpop girl quick and tried to merge the sets as we were leaving and had a lot of fun The mixed set left and I danced with kpop girl for a few minutes, didn't do such a good last impression the 2nd time though. I had timebridged the set at some point for breakfast at 4am and at some point we had gone back to the 4th floor and my target was sitting at the table facing away from me so I decided it was time for a jealously plot line lol. We were having fun and opened a set dancing behind us, I brought in the J dude and he immediately went for the better girl lmao so I just winged for him. Some french guy was dancing with her and tried increasing his kino or w/e so I walked around him and started chatting him up lmao. At some point the J dude was losing interest so I walked back over and put his arm around the girl lmao! They laughed and talked about something. Eventually he let go again and I signaled asking if he wanted to eject. We did and the girls had run off, I did see them unhappily pass by at one point though lols. Open another set, thought the girl was pretty okay but it had just hit 4 and the girls wanted to go lol. I led the set out of the building and somehow while the guy and I were talking the girls slipped past us and outside. 10 minutes later we found them there and all went to breakfast. At breakfast I made the mistake of trying to be a gentleman and holding the door for everyone, then the J guy took my target all the way to the side of the ramen shop booth so it went Target > Him > Obstacle > me lol. That was a hard lesson learned but my brain was fried too so I sucked it up and made small talk with the obstacle. After breakfast we all walked back to the station and the J guy says we should go drinking again, I say yeah we haven't exchanged Lines yet! It's okay, she has yours and wherever she goes I go. Big wtf energy lol. Laugh and say okay, get home safe! Target is perfectly happy with my walking so we're leaning into each other lol so idk exactly what was up, but if I can meet just the cute girl who cares I guess lol! What I did well: -Followed @Taisho's advice and went to the right places! Who knew it was easier!! -Plowed and acted unaffected by girls' and guys' behavior -Stuck with one set, thanks @Romeo! -Made mostly good decisions game wise just a bit slower than would be optimal -Was a super good wing for the J dude if I don't say so myself! The girl he was dancing with kept eyeing me and I didn't make eye contact with her or accidentally kino her once lol. I even made a super uninterested check over my shoulder that got her to pay attention to his kind of beta dancing/kino What I will improve: -Read the social situations better and pick up on flags sooner! I probably should have gone for a female only set to stick with the whole night and gotten an easy layup, though all the girls I Line closed tonight I'd easily want to Reg and the HUB and Kpop girl were super good for me! -Find bounce locations to try for now that I've found good stomping grounds -Work on my routine stack to make it more efficient and to @Taisho's point make sure everything is progressing the sarge/increasing my chances -DO my routine stack and inject more emotion! Realizations: -This is super fun! And not JUST getting blown out all the time is fun too lol! -I actually do know a lot of stuff I just need to distill it to my routine so it's not a brain function game in the moment but always at least baseline good -Body language really is huge. I thought my game knowledge and language ability would make up for imperfect body language but it's really the first thing that people decide on if they'll even talk to you with -J plot lines can work quite well lol
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15 DEC Thursday Nakano Caught a cold so I did some bitch opens after moving before dinner. 1 girl I actually stopped outside in the dark and was surprised when she stopped, tried to stack forward and she started hurrying away. I seem to have forgotten how to transition from open to further attraction effectively, but it's probably just me feeling like I'm awkward making it awkward. Just need to be confident. 16 DEC Fri Nakano Walked around for about an hour while still recovering. Opened a few sets and got instantly blown out, one cute girl on her way from school to work hooked well in a less busy part of the shopping street and I tried to push more attraction than seemed necessary. She actually responded on Line. She did however ask 3 or 4 times why I came there and I was like I was looking for a place to eat and then I saw you and thought you were cute, when she asked again I'd say the same thing lol. I asked her for ramen shop recommendations and she said they were all good. Let her go at the station and waved goodbye, not the best wave goodbye sadly. I need to just force the boyfriend frame more when I do that I think and smile and wave for a while. 17 DEC Sat Nakano daygame Went out for about 2 hours? Went to get something to eat and try a walk around the local very long shopping street/mall even though it was cold and cloudy/going to rain. There were a decent amount of people still. Got blown out a few times, started working on posture more. Asked one girl in the arcade where my favorite game was then just continued into she likes skydiving and doing my routine on that (I think I need to inject more feeling into that routine, I used to have it but forgot how.) She laughed and smiled a lot. College student, thought everything was super great. Said she had plans (fuck, logistics discovery!) and I said we should go get ramen next Monday. (I think actually when I go straight for the Line, then time bridge during the Line exchange is more successful.) She says she's okay or something. I say give me your Line anyway. Some kind of no. You have a boyfriend? No. Well then that's great you should give me your Line! She wishes me luck or something, I say I'm lonely because I just got to Japan. No luck lol. I'm sure I could have delivered the lines better and it was a short set but dang. I guess the main objection would probably have been we just met, to which I should expect that's the objection and say we have to get to know each other better. 2nd notable set that didn't blow me out. 5 mins towards station. Your bag is big. Chuckles, it's actually really light. I lift it up, oh yeah you're right, kino and laugh. She tries to push ahead of me, I tap her on the arm and keep stacking forward. Skydiving, because it's what I go to in panic mode. Oh cool, something something. She visited for a live show, she's from Osaka, that's great I love Osaka, best ramen in the world! Try to bounce her to coffee, she's got a meeting to make or something she says, making a writing motion. I say okay we should exchange lines and I'll show you the ramen when I get to Osaka, sure. Smile and wave a little better. Still need that solid eye contact even though I'm looking out for being run into by crowds of people lol. Things I did well: -I went out at least! Things I will do better: -Stop being a bitch -Like Taisho said, FIND PLACES GIRLS ARE WAITING FOR STUFF, I got so into trying to crack the hard sets at some point I forgot where to find the easier ones -Posture, logistics discovery, calibration Realizations: -God I actually suck at this!
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14 DEC Wed night Roppongi @Taishohad a great recommendation to go to see the Christmas market and Illumination at Roppongi Hills. I met an Irish guy from my hostel there and left him and his friend at the bar for a bit while I scummed it up on the street. I guess I forgot that I used to get blown out all the time too, and it was just part of getting the good girls, somehow in my head it was not really a prerequisite just because the longer memorable sets I obviously didn't get blown out lol. I get blown out a few times walking around, one girl I follow to a crosswalk and squeeze in between her and someone right before the light changes to open kind of from the side, she squirms away then takes off as fast as she can. Now that I think about it I could have kept going. One question though, how do you manage girls in really crowded streets? Just try to stop them? And with the Kane "stop!"? Or by just stopping in front of them naturally? One girl on the street responds well and is listening but I try to push fast for the Line close because she's moving fast and keeps talking about going home. I guess the better answer here would have been to try and pump attraction hard not push for compliance. Oops. I need to go over more questions that are actually DHVs for me. 3 set walking near the pub the guys were in, I open with your shoes are big. They laugh, kind of glances sideways from two of them but one is hooked, should have worked the others while touching my target. Asked them if they were shopping, didn't go first and say I was with friends. Said let's go to the bar and drink with my friends. No they're going home. Tried to push it a little then ejected. 3 set in Christmas market, 19 and going to get drinks but misread, they were going to get Christmas drinks. They said no thanks to the bar invite and hurried off. 2 set in Rigoletto bc why not. They were sitting at the bar ordering food. I messed up and opened my target across the set and ended up next to the obstacle. Obstacle was super interested but I had to do a shuffle to kino my target, asked if they were twins and like pretended I was checking lol. Pretty stupid but they didn't look surprised, the target started to feel uncomfortable I think though bc the obstacle liked me maybe, or maybe I should have leaned back more. Probably about 6-9 minutes and their food comes, I tell my target we should go get ramen next week. No. Line exchange, no. It's fine! She's okay. Oh well, eject and walk out of the bar right into another single set. Girl sitting on the waiting bench at Rigoletto. I ask who we're waiting for while sitting down next to her. Her friend. Not a boy right? No, her female friend. Go run the sarge as usual for about 10 minutes until the waiter calls her reservation. I already have her Line but say we'll talk about when to meet over Line and do the thumb wrap high five lol. 2 set in Roppongi hills (now with my Irish friend), I open a 2 set of solid mask 8's and ask them to take our picture and offer to do the same for them. I should have opened them in English though to break them out of their normal interacting with a guy mode first though and DHV. They are really happy with the pictures and I ask if they speak English. No. Skydiving stuff. Target is cold. I say let's go inside. No they're going to see the illumination. Great let's go together! No no thank you. Well we were going anyway we just didn't know where it was! No they'll go alone. Welp. Last set in train, girl follows us off the first train to transfer and I open her by asking if she got her bag in America. Yes. Turns out to be super cute, like solid 7.5 for her face at least and super small. I switch to Japanese and we talk all the way through the turnstiles and on the train for 12 minutes. I introduce her to my "twin" Irish friend, but he doesn't bother us anyway lol. We whisper on the train about school and she wants to learn English. I tell her I'll teach her some. She seems super happy. I make the mistake of continuing to check the stations as we reach each one and I feel like I looked eager to leave, better to just miss my stop and stay with her lol, though at least I didn't look absentminded I guess. She lives in Chiba and has a final exam in Korean? soon. She comes to Tokyo a lot though so that's a good thing, unlike most out of town girls tonight she seemed to act like it wasn't a big deal. Smiled and waved goodbye after we got off the train, she waved super happily lol. What I did well: -Better posture and confidence/smooth speech every day I think -Started to act a little more cute because my hair is short now and I think I'm giving off a bit of the scary vibe, seemed to work well -Started realizing issues I'm having and started troubleshooting them What I will improve: -Start plowing harder with girls that are really good -I will seed more earlier!!! -I will continue getting better at using informal speech with girls -I will try and add more attraction even when it seems like there's plenty, because that's probably what gets girls texting back the most if I can't instadate
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13 DEC tue Akihabara Went with one of the dudes from the hostel to go to a great roast beef bowl place. I explain to him on the walk over he's going to have to deal with me being a scumbag and I'm sorry, I won't disappear or if I do I'll text/call him on Line. Can I at least wait till we get to Akihabara? Sorry this girl is really cute, I say, walking to open the girl with purple highlights on the crosswalk that just turned green. Your shoes are really big. Ignored. In Japanese. She pulls out her earphones, laughs as I finish the joke. She going home? No, to work. Nice! You're a hostess. No, giggles, works at an izakaya. OH! I do an izakaya waiter line. Laughs. Skydiving. Something, she's in a rush to work. Okay you should give me your line. ACTUALLY SHE'S MARRIED. OK! 2nd set, open 2 girls far later in Akihabara. Obstacle is fat but I still consider trying to get my new friend to wing. Your bag is really big. Laughs, they figure out they're going the wrong way on google maps and turn around. I let them go. 3rd set, tall slim girl standing at crosswalk. Friend is talking about a Japanese band to me and I'm trying to size up the girl lol. He finishes and the crosswalk turns green and I tell him sorry brb. Your bag is really big. Confused look. Japanese. Smiles and laughs. She's headed to work? Home, her parents are waiting for her, okay gotcha! You like ramen? Not really. Okay, I found this great sushi place, we can go there next week. She doesn't know about next week. Okay tomorrow or Thursday. She wants to go home then lol. Okay well give me your line and we'll talk about it. Sure why not. Exchange Lines, tell her to send me a sticker and she sends her name. Quick attraction something. Skydiving. Next light I say I should go back and meet my friend who is waiting. Okay, grab her hand and say "thanks for meeting me" lmao. Things I did well: -Good delivery on openers -Better posture Things I will improve: -Streamline initial logistics and get critical information that will help with the sarge/ scheduling. -Just pump as much attraction as possible if I get an early Line close like set 3, and don't leave it until I have to!
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SUN 11 DEC Asakusa Move my shit to the hostel, go out for lunch/dinner and do my 3 approaches afterwards while it's still just light out. I pass about 3 sets I wanted to open then stop bitching out, first open was a bitch open with a "do you need directions?" because she looks lost. She hurries away lol. I probably (almost definitely) need to recalibrate myself for Japan. I'm probably talking too loudly some of the time at least. Second set is two girls hanging wishes or something under a box. I ask what it is, no reply. Ask again, they say it's something and I mishear it so we just laugh. I think it was something about them wishing for a better love life or something like that. Realize and ask if they're in high school. No. Oh okay cool what college? Middle school. OH, sorry have a nice day! They smile and say no it's okay! Lol, was out of there fast though lol. Third set is a 7+ gyaru and her friend, and I do the I like your shoes. Thank you! Want to trade? That's impossible! Lol. They ask if I'm Japanese, no, American, but you like Americans. Yes. High five. Set goes on for probably 6-9 minutes and qualify them on wanting to go skydiving. Talk about finding a good ramen shop and try to timebridge for one, but they're far away from Chiba. That's fine I come here a lot. She has no Line. It's okay. SHE HAS A BOYFRIEND. Fuck. Everyone's got a boyfriend right now. I made a joke about Ditto being lonely and a single tear rolling down my cheek and the obstacle said something like yeah it is lonely, but she was a bit too chubby for me to want to deal with her bad logistics lol! Could have been a great pivot though since I kept her well engaged most of the set. Back at the hostel I see a cute and tall-ish chinese girl. Figure she's the only one there so I follow her into the kitchen to talk to her, she takes really easily to all the attraction and jokes. Really wanted to bounce her to my little capsule bunk thing but she ate super slowly and I knew I was getting towards the time she would be a little too invested for the quick lay, to make matters worse the Kiwi dude who was making some monstrosity of a soup behind us and didn't respond much finally finished and wanted to chat me up. I did the minimum required pleasantries and even told the girl to wait in Japanese but she left the room. I go change and wait in the sitting room, she comes back in a bit and wants me to help with studying Japanese for her new job. She also seemed kind of interested in the fact I was staying at another hotel soon lol. But I digress, I should have tried to bounce her straight to my room again but didn't, and missed my chance at a discreet exit. Now in it for the longer game I talk to her largely in Japanese while we study her questions and response and try to drop hints about my discretion but also kinoing her a lot lol. She was very compliant to me touching her upper thigh and "accidentally" touching her chest, she even reverse kinoed me a bit. Then other people started to come into the room and when I talked to them she ejected pretty fast (like 2-3 minutes) even after I tried to bring her into the conversation. I had a short convo over Line with her trying to convince her to come to my room but to no avail. Will see what we get tomorrow. Things I did well: -Improvised some stuff and enjoyed making jokes without slowing down my set -At least had an idea of what I was trying to accomplish -Hooked a cute gyaru girl. Please bless me with more of this. Things I will improve: -Push for things I don't think I can get, especially in the SDL situation, because I can always backpedal and I don't know until I try. -Did some pretty solid attraction game on the chinese girl and MOSTLY avoided future projection -I will get better at reading girls and trying to think about things from their POV again Realizations: -Dusk street game in well lit places isn't SO bad -I don't TOTALLY suck at this -All the girls seem to have picked up a boyfriend right now -2 sets seem to be harder because their friend is their tie back to their social circle and can out them if they let me close them -Girls really let me sit there and talk to them for a long time and call them cute and touch them a lot even though they know they have boyfriends lol. Girls really do like validation.
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10 DEC Shinjuku, night time I decided to try Shinjuku yesterday thinking it would be easier after I put myself through the gauntlet in Shibuya. I didn't open any girls on the train, even though there were 2 that I thought I'd like to, kept telling myself I would start when I get there. When in Shinjuku, started heading towards CoCoIchi, I told myself I'd open 3 sets before dinner, because it should only take me the walk there to do so, the first 2 didn't even have to be girls I wanted. I walked straight past CoCoIchi and straight for another 300m before kicking myself and forcing myself to open. Overall last night my average time between approaches was probably 10-15 minutes after being blown out, especially bad because I didn't open a lot of girls I wanted to. The first decent set I think I had to force myself to turn around and followed these two cute girls but by the time I was about to get in front of them they entered a live house, so I asked an at least a 6 girl standing outside by herself what it was. Who's playing? Some rapper. You look like a rapper. Giggles. She's waiting for her friend, a guy. Talk about her other music interests and she plays one of the guy's(the musician at the live house) songs for me. It's actually pretty unique but I forget to qualify her on it properly, I should have gone further and talked about my love of music and how I like sharing that with people that can appreciate it. Instead I changed the topic and went through my skydiving bit, basically my backup, which I should have done at some point to keep pushing attraction I guess, but I feel like I missed a good chance to qualify to get it in. I start trying to line close, attempting to time bridge for ramen or something, but she's not down. Does the "I don't have Line" thing lol, super common the last few days. I say it's fine just exchange it! Resistance. Drop the subject and kept doing attraction, tried to line close a few minutes later and still no. I've got her giggling and smiling a lot after a bit and she seems to be really happy but also always looking around (probably to see if her friend is coming) and probably should have been more careful with my kino and pulled it back a bit. Giggly and smiley the whole time but her friend comes, she walks straight to him and I say "Tooru we've been waiting for you!" and he laughs and shakes my hand and she's already all the way to the ticket guy lol. Tell them to enjoy and eject. There was a cutie hostess, probably at least a 7.5 and opened her (way later after many times getting blown out) with the classic RPQ "Your shoes are really big!" bit. She looked confused so I translated it and she giggled and said thank you lol. You shopping tonight? No. You're a hostess. Yes. Can't be helped, you're cute. Giggles. I manage to BT spike and do a bit of my skydiving scubadiving question stuff but she seems uninterested in them, I try to time bridge before she gets to work and line close but she gives the "I'm okay," "Oh do you have a boyfriend?" "No" "Perfect! Then give me your Line!" Still no lol, a bit more persistence but she gets to her workplace and I tell her to have fun. I end up walking all the way to Shin Okubo, open two girls walking on a crowded ass narrow street. Big shoes. One giggles, the other starts looking down trying to avoid eye contact, always a very funny method of trying to blow you out I think, or maybe they're embarrassed? Keep going with BT spikes and stuff but the crowd is making it tough, I continue to -politely- clear a path and talk to them, but they stop behind me and when I tell them to come talk they say no and duck inside a shop lol. Fuck, glad I tried though. Mixed 3 set in Shin Okubo. Open the guy who is wearing makeup, asking how he learned, the girls start getting all giggly lol. I start asking him about the girls and eventually he walks away and I can talk to just the 2 girls. One is quite good and the other is a Korean and a friend of a friend, they met today. The set goes for at least 10 minutes maybe 15, I do an okay amount of attraction but I feel like I'm struggling to say the right words and slowing down my game a lot. I say they probably have to leave soon and try to Line close/timebridge my target but she doesn't have Line either. Boyfriend? No, but a guy she likes and it's looking good. Well if it doesn't work out you can call me on Line! No lol. They ask how old I am at some point and reveal they're both 19, saying "meccha toshi ue," not sure what the connotation was as it wasn't super easy to tell. I give up and ask them what the good points of my nanpa were, since they asked me if I was doing nanpa earlier lol. My target says "shitsukoi ha yokunai" LOL. Thanks for the compliment. Blown out one last time on the way home by an older lady who sped up to jazzercise speeds as I told her she didn't have to run lol. I'm going to for my own sanity say that trying to do street game in the dark was a large contributing factor of my failure yesterday, because I've got to avoid tilt somehow lol, I spent most of the night getting blown out pretty hard. Probably would help to shave too. Things I did well: -I didn't let the answer rest at no -I hooked some 2 sets and even engaged both girls pretty well -I at least opened Things I will do better: -SEED FIRST, Don't just push for a timebridge if I can help it! -I will stop stretching out my words when I'm unsure, at least pause silently! -I will start doing approaches, even if on girls I don't want, as early as possible to avoid the bitch out spiral -I will do better at saying "Ok" and then disagreeing, and moving on to come back later for non compliance -I will engage both girls in multi sets better -I will use more canned things so I don't have to uhh over my words in the first few minutes
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Hi, Ditto here, with another update on how taking long breaks from game makes you suck lol. I'm going to challenge myself kind of like the animal to do at least 3 approaches a day if I have no day2's every day that I'm here in Japan until the week I leave, and unless I insta-date/bounce a long set. Please let that happen lol. 9 DEC, Shibuya Went out to Shibuya to do some street game for 4-5 hours while @Taisho had to go meet a work partner to discuss stuff. Opened probably 15-20 sets. Got blown out on almost all of them very quickly. Right off the bat getting out of the station I opened a cute girl who was at least a 7 (with her mask on) with an "I like your boots" and ended up having to tell her in Japanese instead which seems like is always a good DHV when it goes that way. Talked to her for about 5 minutes, did the you work at McDonald's cold read, she used to. Did my bit about skydiving, told her it's awesome she wants to go and that we should go together someday (should have said tomorrow, and should have qualified her more explicitly with the why is it good for me.) She's waiting for her friends, gets close to the wire and I tell her let's exchange Lines, she has a boyfriend lol. Shit. I said dang, came back a sentence or two later asking if she was gonna break up with him soon or anything. Giggles, no. Say that's really sad but good too lol. She goes to meet her friends after a message comes. I continue being a bitch even though I had an okay warm up set, at least 6 to 9 sets I wanted to open passed by me tonight and I either kept walking or hesitated so long I lost them (even pursued one and couldn't find her lol) I can't remember all of my openers but I need to work on better body language, volume control, plowing longer, and making better eye contact. I met a 2 set way in the back of Shibuya holding bags, they were actually pretty cute. Saw them looking at me, I think, from far away, turned down the other street, then went back and walked straight up to them and asked if they were twins. Giggles, the obstacle looks unamused. I ask them what they bought, they hold the bag up and explain in Japaneseglish, arts and crafts stuff to make their friend a present. They're both college students waiting to meet their friends to go into the store. Target keeps taking calls to try and help her friends find them (I should have qualified her on being a good friend, she was reasonably compliant) and the obstacle who was being pretty cold and not looking at me eventually starts smiling at me a lot and giving me the eyes and stuff as I talk to her lol. Set lasts about 10 minutes (it felt like at least) we talk about a lot of things and I make the decision I have to choose one to go for or it's gonna get awkward for them and rough for me. I choose to try and Line close the target after she takes a second phone call and says her friends are lost at the station. I line close and get a rough invite for going to lunch next week but notice she doesn't add me on line after scanning my QR code. Was kinda weird and idk why. I need to look more closely at their reactions to what I do to figure this out. She might add me later but I'm expecting the chances are low. Lots of getting blown out, at least I walked in front of them and did my openers walking from the front. Lots of girls' friends pull them away, lots try to not say anything and speed up. Some I speed up with them but a lot I just yell for them to not run away lol. Funny because sometimes it got giggles. Ask a foreigner dude what his shirt says in front of Family Mart, turns out he just wants to drink and talk to dudes all night and I'm sick of getting blown out so I humor him for about 15 minutes and probe about talking to girls, big no lol. I kind of come back to family mart when I'm bored and listen to them talk when I'm between approaches and I have a probably hour long spell of getting blown out super fast while doing this. One Taiwanese dude comes over and somehow we pretty quickly catch on and he wants to be my wingman lol! He was actually a super solid wingman for a rando, knew how to isolate reasonably well, knew the general rules. So we go around the rest of the night for like 2-3 hours talking and approaching 2 sets. Still getting blown out pretty hard at the beginning but it gets a little better. One set where my wingman disappeared before I could bring him in was a 2 set with a very cute target and very chubby obstacle lol. Do a lot of "does your friend" and got the obstacle actually engaged and smiling. They're college students, the target is pretty kino compliant though I'm just touching her arm and back through her giant jacket when I make jokes. I do the BS palm reading pretty early on, then throw her hand away and say "I can't say it," and they both just laugh and don't ask what, could have been a sign of lower compliance? They're both laughing and engaged all the way up to the Shibuya crossing, and I ask her if she likes ramen. No. Oh because it makes you feel slow, ok. Soba? No. Ok, well next week we should go eat sushi. She's okay. Lol, typing this I realize it was a little bit of a negative compliance ladder but I was running out of time. Super weird though that the set seemed to be going super well. I told her we should exchange lines at least because I need to go back and find my brother, but she doesn't want to. She doesn't have line (obvious lie but ok). I stop with them at the crossing while they're waiting and say "I don't do this very much so idk what to say lol, help me out" They laugh. I try to hard push the qualifications and likes through, skydiving, scuba diving, reading, anime, nothing. Probably sealed my fate but it was a weird change of pace. I guess normally I should have just said okay and stayed with the set. Wingman offers me a free pass to club TK but I decline as I have to catch last train, or else I'd have to wake up Taisho to let me into his apartment since he was a bro and let me crash on his couch when my hotel turned out to be fake lol. We go around and have some fun sets, one girl with her boyfriend and her brother, none of them tell us she's his boyfriend until after like 5 minutes lol. Line close the brother though with the promise of going to pick up girls together next week lmao. One 2 set of Korean girls in front of club TK, we're asking to get in line and ask them when it opens. End up continuing to talk to them. They're decent, the obstacle isn't as good though (and he's got her b/c he's the wingman lol.) Isolate a bit. Ask the club guy, it's 3500 yen and I leave in an hour. Ask the girls if they want to go to Karaoke off the cuff and they seem super down and excited, remember to ask my wing and he's like nah, so I suggest we go get drinks or walk around. My girl says no they'll go to the club lol. Ok, well Line. My girl doesn't have it, but other girl offers that she has instagram, so I tell her and my wingman that they should exchange instas. My girl initially thinks about giving me her kakaotalk but then says no lol, I kinda go ok sure and we eject. Last good set I was waiting at Family Mart for my wingman to go to the bathroom and two girls sitting across the street looked at me and giggled so I smiled and laughed lol. After I tell my wingman that and he goes "they're pretty cute, they're probably Korean." Ok. "I bet they speak English" "Only one way to find out!" I walk across the street pointing at my target, "you speak English!" She says "no no no" And we both go, "that's English!" Laughs all around and we almost immediately isolate haha. The girls are okay, they're older but definitely still bangable at least and I have no right to be picky yet. We talk to them till last train because their English is actually quite good, I do a lot of DHVs but also said if she comes to California we can go skydiving etc like I always do, but I'm thinking that was stupid if I was trying to SNL her. Set is going well, I'm kinoing her face and back and lower thigh and checking her stomach and stuff lol. Time bridge her for Sunday. Check my watch and it's like 8 minutes to last train and decide it's decision time. Say I have to make last train, OR we should all go to their hotel and get drinks. She says no and seems hesitant, her friend turns and asks her something or something like that and I exclaim, "she invited us to their hotel to get drinks!" My girl laughs and says she didn't say that lol. Wingman immediately starts talking about soju and goes to buy some in the family mart and we have to call him back lol. Try to have a serious discussion pushing to go to their place. My girl wants to meet Sunday. I say okay that's fine, Line close her and tell my wingman to keep trying because he's based in Shibuya and has to leave tomorrow morning (we told the girls that too to try and get them to hang out tonight.) Then I turn around and say bye while walking away, then run fast to the station barely making my train. Things I did well: -I kept pushing myself to open even if I did bitch out -I started to enjoy the suck again -I adjusted my plan as I made mistakes -I caught myself on a lot of stupid lines and comments and managed to salvage them lol -I forced myself to go out, one of the hardest parts Things I will improve: -Do my warmup sets sooner and stop worrying about finding the best girls early on -Improve my posture, not lean in, make better eye contact, and plow better -Get better at pumping out more attraction faster, in the form of DHVs and, personality? -Qualify better, explain why -Remember to use sign language when there's a language barrier -REMEMBER NAMES BETTER
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Fri 11 Oct 2019 Visiting Soupernoob in Utah for a couple weeks, man the automatic seven is a real REAL thing. We went out to do some practice sets at a halloween convention we saw on a billboard and I opened probably three sets but only the last one was good. The whole thing was like a county fair but there was a "party" after, basically they just set a dj up and tried to make it a club, we did one pass through and looked for sets and I thought there was nothing but I saw a 3 set dancing. One skinny girl who had pretty good hair and makeup, one dressed as poison ivy with a decent body and red hair, and a fucking whale. Told Soup to open across the whale and say something to the other girls, he hesitated because I just told him to start by opening the best girls in the room lol. After a bit, and I think they might have seen us practicing our poly-rhythmic clapping, I said fuck it and went to open. Walked over but the fat chick was all over the place and just opened the cute one, kino'd the whale and other obstacle a bit. You're feeling dangerous tonight! All black! Decent response from the target and cuter obstacle, but the fat chick was pretty unhappy, I stacked forward and just did, sisters! All from wherever! I felt like I was fucking up so badly but they weren't quite leaving. It got to the point where the fat chick kept pulling my girl away and I just decided to stand there and dance as much as I could manage to pretend I wasn't getting blown out (I had already called Soup in but he was having a lot of trouble too). Soup was having a terrible time because I had made too much eye contact with the obstacle he was trying to deal with and he's forgotten a lot of his game tricks. It was getting more awkward by the second and the girls said they're heading outside. Oh good, I was gonna go there too! Come with me! I just led my girl by the back(pack). Her compliance was WEIRD, she was compliant, but I could see her friends were trying to get her to go and she answered all my easy qualification questions with "I don't like to do anything" lol. I played it terribly but after about 8-10 minutes in set they wanted to go back inside and I told my girl she should give me her number. No pretense. Yeah, I should? Yeah. The grin works every time. She stopped and put a number into my phone which I said I'd call but she was in a hurry to go. I'll ask how to get her to answer it in group chat, but I was sitting there going damnit this is definitely a fake number. She put in a norcal number that could be right and they were freshmen in college so I don't give a damn, all there is to do is try my texting seminar magic and hope for the best lol! It was really exciting to get out and run some of my game even if there weren't a lot of good targets, I really need to get out more especially when I've got wingmen around.
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Tue 12 Jun 2019 Went to the doc to get an std test today, better safe than sorry, you know. Opened a bunch of people just because I felt like BT spiking. One lady working at reception by herself gave me that damnit another patient vibe, then she was giggling and smiling by the time I was done with my urine test, lol! Walking down the stairs while leaving I opened a tall girl that was really done up (for America) with I like your shoes. Thanks! They're from work though. Want to trade? Laughs and stops on the staircase. I get a look at the face and go, oh shit that's definitely a tranny. WHY? I don't know but the plastic surgery and tranny alarm was going off super loud so I said "haha, I'm just teasing you, enjoy your day!" and ejected Walked past a nurse who could have been decent checking her texts on a bench outside. Bitched out because there were like 7 other people within 25 yards. I walked to my car and kicked myself and said DON'T BE A BITCH. Went back and she was gone... he who hesitates lol Opened a girl in line behind me at the bank, she wasn't good but she was friendly so I just practiced talking to her and ran some attraction. No kino though lol. She obviously started to get pretty into it Girl came in behind her, skinny brigade worthy short asian girl with the short dyed blonde hair. Damn, one girl out of 100 that was even worth approaching and she was 4 people behind me in line. Talked to the tellers, walked outside and decided to try and make an excuse by calling customer service (the tellers advised me to) while talking to the security guard. She comes out with a guy who looked so different that I immediately assumed it was her boyfriend. They walked off and I'm still banging my head against the wall. I could have just asked her about her brother. AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH All in all at least it was good to go out and get some practice! By the local community college seems like it has a chance of having not trash girls too so maybe I'll be looking into that this weekend haha
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It depends how far you have to move the pawn. That makes perfect sense Like the examples I gave. You can open with more "normal" things too because you have social proof. I must have been half asleep when I wrote that, your examples are good thank you haha. I think what I should do is try it so I can get a better mental image ? ? Thanks for the responses as always! The forums and your help have made a huge difference in my level of game!
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Perfect plan Ahhh that's good! Do you usually have to do a few minutes of attraction before you can get a girl to follow you over to talk to other people? I guess acting like you do it all the time is probably key Open like what? With your arm around the pawn? Generally this will be tough if you opened the set and there is a language barrier, but in general, the best way to do it is to include his girl in the conversation. So, he asks you where are you from, you answer and then ask the obstacle. She says where she's from, then you ask the guy if he's ever been there, then if he has, have him talk about the place and if he hasn't have the girl talk about the place Ahhh okay that's good. I can see that set going so much differently when I imagine doing that! Or you can eject and come back to the set later at the risk of not being able to find it. Ah these are my favorite kinds of choices, when all your options are less than great haha! That's when you really get to play with your decision making skills You have some options here too. One of the things that's different about night game from day game is that in night game, you can re-open the set later because typically they'll be there for several hours. It can be a lot better to run the set similarly to if you go to meet a girl and she is with friends. You get in there, make yourself look good, but knowing that you likely can't get enough isolation to progress the sarge at that time, you eject and come back later. Okay, that's a good way to think of it since I have the meet with friends thing pretty clear in my mind I think. Only problem is with this set I didn't even get to the make myself look good phase HA! I was just refusing to get blown out easily Oh shit. That makes sense. I need to start asking myself what girls are doing and what they're going to do next, and think of what the lowest pressure time to open is. I had been regularly opening girls in high pressure situations before I went to Soupernoob's boot camp lol What's this about? Her friend appeared and I said I'd wing but he didn't think the set was going anywhere. He just needed some time to get back into it and get over his AA again
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FR with Tokyotj Was super out of state but that made it interesting because sets took more skill and determination to hook sometimes. It wasn't as black and white as usual where sets would hook fast or not at all. Some would take a bit of time Street 2 set. BT spike a lot and manage to stop them very close to last train. Try to mention that it may be soon but they should give me line. A J dude walks over and tries to wing for me. Fine by me, I make it obvious which girl I'm after but he talks to me more than them. I engage a little but try to keep kinoing my target and engaging her. They start to back away and then eventually leave when he keeps talking. How do you deal with a guy who wants in on your set but can't focus on isolating the obstacle? Harlem. 2 set in line. How tall are you? Friend says 171. Darn 172 would have been perfect. Friend acts all disgusted (she's short maybe that's why?) 2 guys walk up and pass the girls (I didn't realize at the time they were probably together and thought it was strange). Getting blown out or ignored a lot. Especially when I don't open fast enough. One 2 set we walk by and instead of trying to think of an opener I just smile and high five her. Pass by 2 more times while doing a walkthrough then come back and bring TokyoTJ in. Set lasts about 30-40 minutes. Didn't do enough ssp because I was smiling too much in the beginning and went to sit next to her and kino her back instead of facing her. Her English was okay, I kept pausing between things though because it was loud and I was running through my stack way too quickly. I tried to stretch out the qualification more with some details but they generally didn't go well because of language and noise. They say they have to go home and I line close even though I couldn't time bridge (she said she was leaving tomorrow, but TokyoTJ said the other girl mentioned my target had a boyfriend) In reality they may not be leaving but I probably will just wait till I'm back in Japan to try and ping her for a meet. 5 set that looks like a 2 set near the bar. Open 2 by kinoing one and talking to the other and switching based on who is giving me their attention. Finally looks like I hooked both and then I ask who they're there with. 5 girls. Obstacle goes over to another friend when I'm turned around being told who's who. High five and eject because I start losing the set all over the place. In this kind of situation is it best to just try line closing if the target is good? A good 2 set walks by down the stairs while I'm talking to TokyoTJ and writing notes. When they come back up I open and get some interest, but their friends see them and then grab them all, the girls walk out to the dancefloor together and TokyoTJ tells me to go after them. I do and am getting interest from one girl but it all kind of falls off as they start dancing and doing their own thing. The girls take turns trying to close me out of the circle after a bit and I just stay there like I don't care, maybe it'd be better to pretend like they're dancing with me when they try that. I decide it's time to leave before I make it really awkward because I don't know how to dance to hip hop. I come back to this set at the end of the night and just stand there smiling while they dance crazy and try to ask my target for her line. She says no twice so I take off. How do you hook sets that are dancing crazy? Wait for them to head to the bathroom? Maybe just BT spiking them in passing a lot, though sometimes these sets just leave early too. TokyoTJ ejects from a 2 set where the target was really good and I tell him to go back and Line close her. He doesn't want to and tells me to. I just lean on their standing table and act like I understand whatever the obstacles saying and nod. They laugh. I say I like her shirt and the stripes. Does she want to trade? I start unbuttoning my shirt like KV mentioned one time and they thought it was hilarious. At the second to last button the target takes my hand and says something and I wasn't sure if it was continue or that I should button my shirt back up. I button it back up after a bit of questioning and continue BT spiking and doing a bit of qualification. Scuba diving is cool, let's go to California tonight and do it! She says something like woah that's serious (I forget). Okay tomorrow then. I try to timebridge but they say they have work all week including Saturday. I say I'll get her line and we'll talk then. Friend takes her to the bathroom and I say wait give me your line first. I move to another table so I'm not waiting for them and they come out and see me and turn to go up to a bar. I try to stop them and get her line but they keep going and I just follow them up the stairs and to their seats and say give me your line (I thought for sure they were trying to blow me out now) but my girl says okay and adds me. I make a little more small talk and say I'll message her and leave before I run out of Japanese and make the set awkward. I kinoed the obstacle and tried to keep her interested but failed to do the thing where I ask about the target through her, partly because her English was worse and partly because I was getting so many IOI's from the target I acted like a retard 2 set hooks and I say I'll be back but I take too long and they leave 3 set just gets there at 3am and I open with my "Hey it's you!" opener for girls with tan coats. It goes well and they hook but they're a bit older and I'm out of state and don't know where to go. Before I lose the set I say ganbare and high five or shake their hands and eject so that I can reopen later. I ejected from a lot of sets before trying to bring TokyoTJ in and I think though from a "social" club game standpoint it was better to have everyone on good terms, more people actually showed up and it wasn't as dangerous to have unfriendly sets. I really missed out on getting to work on bringing TokyoTJ in and building our synergy too, though TokyoTJ is a great wing regardless. realizations: -Being out of state isn't the end of the world. It does make it significantly harder to hook sets though. -Having a neutral face is much better than trying to not frown at how badly you're doing sometimes -I expect a lot more from my sets now, and that's awesome! -Running with a high keenness set later in the night seems to have a higher chance of yielding any results as at the end of the night all the good sets are dancing, gone, or too sleepy to enjoy their interactions
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Sunday 21 Apr Went out to do some day game in the dark with Romeo. Shibuya. Romeo opened a really tough walking set with headphones, then a sitting two set that we passed by soon after going to a less crowded spot. I manage not to get noticed or be in line of sight when he opens this time (as I did too many times), and he brings me in after a bit. Who's the bad girl, I go over to mine who has goth accessories all over and a neck piercing and chuckle to myself. I start off with an Ohayo and only give my girl a handshake. I'm starting off a bit slow and can't think of things to say so I jump to qualification pretty quickly since it seems she's already pretty keen. Do you like skydiving. Her eyes light up and she says yeah I wanna try it! Woah high five! Scuba diving? She's actually done it! (I think at least, she speaks about as much English as I do Japanese which at this point is almost none.) Wow! I love you! I grab her and hug her tight, from the side because we're all sitting on a small stone barrier. She seems to respond well to this, and I actually do like her a lot more because she qualified well on that and a few other things even though she wasn't super good looking. For a little bit the two girls start talking to each other about our BT spikes or occasionally translating help. Romeo tells his girl to use a translator and show him and I try to get my girls attention by thinking of more interesting things to ask her. One or two times though I helped translate and felt kinda dumb. After about 10 minutes in set Romeo asks if I want to stay and maybe bounce and I say sure that would be great practice. He asks if they want to drink. Meeting guy friends soon. That's fine it should be quick. As he's doing this I try to seed sushi in shibuya because I forgot I needed to be seeding more. Everyone thinks I mean we should go to sushi instead, bad timing lol! That's okay we decide to bounce them to sushi and I double check with Romeo that he's cool with that. We walk over to sushi and my end of the weekend state starts getting to me. I forget to run enough game and am in general thinking way too slowly. We talk about a few things but luckily I was smart enough to forcefully pick the mood back up right before we left. Lots of smiles and time bridge before we parted ways and they went to go see their friends. Or so they said. I should have time bridged sooner and kept trying to game more. Opened a lot of walking sets and all the good ones with colored hair that I saw. Usually no English and some really tried to blow me out pretty hard. Romeo mentions that I should try to stop them since there were a lot of Japanese guys opening too, and most of them were walking with them or trying to hand out flyers as the girls passed. My successful hook rate increased after this, and if I didn't hook I'd at least get a decent amount more compliance sometimes. There were 2 sets that were really smiley but left though. 1. 2 set of what looked like super young girls when they turned around which threw me off. I was unsure but kept trying to open anyway. They want through a crowd of people but I stopped them for a half second. You! They continue trying to walk. Wait, your friend *kino obstacle, your friend's shoes are really big. They stop walking and are smiling a lot and listening. That means you. Point to make it extra obvious. You are only this tall. They laugh and I say, so you're 15. Wasn't looking into the obstacle's eyes enough. They laugh, no! And turn and walk. I'm confused on so many levels that I don't pursue them. Romeo says it was going well I should go reopen. I agree but we lost them in the crowd and shops. 2. Romeo is making a head call and a 2 set of taller blonde haired girls walks by. I hesitate a second and they're already perpendicular to me so I start walking to overtake them, 2 or 3 guys try to hand out flyers so I join in trying to hand them an imaginary piece of paper. They laugh and smile but we're all still walking. Stop, I tell them. They stop to my surprise. Your friend's shoes are really big! Decent kino I think, wasn't quite hard enough. They laugh and say yeah she's actually short. Good English!? They turn and keep trying to go. I say wait you should meet my friend! They stop and turn around again, waiting and I say he's tall and good looking. They have to meet some friends they say, they're late. I say wait one more time but don't pursue. I really REALLY should have with this set, at least line closed if not tried to see if I could get them to ignore their appointment entirely for the sake of science. 1 more set that is walking fast with silver hair and the standard Japanese tan overcoat. Hey!! Oh I thought you were my friend because of your tan jacket! No English! Hand up in front of her face. I mean you have the jacket, I lift up part of her jacket for emphasis. She pushes my hand away. I try to switch openers but she continues to walk faster and says something in Japanese haha. Romeo opens a 2 set of young girls because they have some gacha balls with something he thinks is funny. They hook pretty well. The obstacle hands us each a gacha ball to help open them. The obstacle is very compliant and we maneuver into a standard isolating configuration. They're friends celebrating my girl's birthday. I actually know enough Japanese now to keep the obstacle occupied and ended up kinoing a lot to test compliance, which there was a lot. Romeo mentions we should go meet RPQ and I say okay one second and line close my girl which Romeo later mentioned he thought was super funny because he felt awkward when he learned they were young and had gotten physically a lot stiffer when they mentioned it ?. Romeo's girl spoke really good English so could have a lot of fun with the set. Overall probably 10-15 minutes Try to open a set walking really fast. Some opener that was silly. Ignore. Hand. Meeting friend. Otoko. Is she his girlfriend? Yes. Okay. Realizations: -As Romeo mentioned to me, realizing what the girl is typically dealing with, whether that be guys' openers or how comfortable she feels with kino or energy levels (KV mentioned this too) can be really helpful in streamlining the learning process.
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You usually can't get time if you're talking about night game. But usually, it doesn't matter, you can just move on to something else because night game moves so fast anyway. If it's a slower situation, you can "shush" her and then look into her eyes deeply making her think that you're having deep thoughts while you frantically come up with what to do next. Also, on Day 2s, you can dip out to the bathroom for a quick huddle up and maybe some texts to get some support from the guys. I've done this plenty of times when things weren't going my way. I've read this three times and I still can't control my laughter when I read the part about shushing her and staring deeply into her eyes! Okay these are great tips! And yeah I've thought about doing that before since you guys have mentioned it. How long of a bathroom break can you usually get away with if you need it? Yeah you're a bit more aware of your surroundings in the club than I am lol. All I see is girls with silver hair that I need to open LOL! That is such perfect terminology! So you just hook one girl and then walk her around and open another one with your arm around the pawn? When you ditch the pawn how do you do it without seeming like you're being a dick? Shit, blowing kisses and air guns are going to be all over Shibuya this week! This sounds way too fun ? Yeah fair haha. Maybe I should just spend a night watching the guys who seem good at it Yeah! A lot of these realizations were from Romeo's points throughout the night! I can't wait to get better at gaming these girls! Thanks! And thanks for all the help! I look forward to hanging out again in Tokyo next week!
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Went out to Camelot in Shibuya with Romeo and Ladysman at the recommendation of TokyoTJ. It was really fun! I have been out with Prime some and should really add some of my approaches with him to my FRD. But for now this is fresh in my head. One thing about the club Espirit is I can't seem to get girls to go to the table that Prime's friends have. I can do my normal goofy openers and hook sets (still less than usual), but they won't bounce to the table and the ones I try to open with "we have a table, want to drink?" like they suggested, pretty much just say no lol. Maybe I need to make more eye contact, maybe it's the venue, maybe I just have to have that much better of a positive seeming presence. Got to Camelot around exactly midnight. Found the guys on the middle floor which has hip hop music. Romeo gave me a rundown of how he likes to game and was super awesome the whole night offering advice and sharing some stories between sets. Went down to the EDM floor, Romeo opened a warmup set. Ended it on a high note after about 2-3 minutes so we could reopen later if we wanted. I open a 2 set at a table, at first no compliance, open the target across the obstacle while kinoing the obstacle. Did your earrings hurt to put in? No. Your friend's shoes are really big. Chuckles. Logistics discovery and another BT spike or two and they're hooked. Bring in Romeo. Decide I actually like the obstacle better, too bad she's the one who speaks some English lol. I try to let my girl translate some but I let the set slip a little. Still happy and going well when we bounce to open more. --Reopened this set later, had okay kino compliance but I tried to do a silly bit about tandem skydiving where I demonstrate it and she stepped away and got super cold when I stepped behind her and tried to raise her arms up. I laughed and continued with something. Kept trying to kino too much and she was very wary of shutting it down and eventually as I thought I was letting her translate she didn't want me to kino her at all and kept stepping farther away from the standing table and their drinks. I lost the set mostly by being a boob and forgetting what to say on top of being too lazy to try and make it more fun after she started shutting everything down. Maybe I should have acted like she was being weird, but I don't know if I had the language capability to do that. Romeo opens some sets that go pretty well, we get a bit of a circle of people dancing, too bad all the girls are trash lol. I try a couple of times to bring other girls in but no luck and not enough skill haha. Open a 2 set both wearing white with "white, white, twins!" disgusted looks. I laugh while kinoing the girl I'm not talking to, and try a couple more BT spikes but the music gets loud. I just stand there and dance a little and keep trying to do BT spikes. One finally grabs her friend and they have to leave to the back of the dance floor ?. Even better is Romeo tried the twins opener on them later and we thought it was hilarious, he then told ladysman to do it and we kept waving to them when they passed by. They looked like they were half mad at us and half mad at themselves for refusing to talk to us LOL. Open a lot of 2 sets on the dance floor. I probably could have been a bit louder and had better body language. I caught myself leaning forward a couple of times to talk in the girls' ears. Most of the good ones blow me out, a few of the better ones I make leave by refusing to stop talking at them haha. Though I think most of the time when one turns away, I talk to the friend about that friend and she starts realizing more that her friend wants out. Romeo opened a 3 set and ran the 2 set. I ran pretty standard game on my girl who I wasn't super interested in but then she qualified really well. Too bad I couldn't time bridge because she's busy every day I'm not this week apparently. It might be how I went about the time bridge though. I just went for it and said do you work wednesday, what time do you finish. Then when she didn't really understand (I think I didn't use quite the right word) and I said we should get dinner together. Really this is just an objection that probably means I didn't do enough seeding and future projection. Line closed. Opened a 3 set while Romeo and ladysman are dancing with a 2 set Romeo pulled over. Offered to trade glow sticks that were identical. She laughed and was pretty immediately hooked. Went over to her and asked if she was with her friends, a white couple that was really not into it it seemed. Gave the guy a handshake, BT spiked. Should have just brought them all over to the other guys but I didn't want to bring the couple for some reason. Danced with them a bit and saw the guys going back to the bar with the girl who was acting drunk. Mostly just danced silly and did some DHVs and PIE. She had no phone and couldn't search her line ID, so I had her give me her phone number. She called herself and it seemed to have worked. "time bridged" for breakfast with everyone, told her to text me around 4:30, and it was 3-330 am. Ejected to find the guys with the intention of bringing them back to all dance together. Kiss on the cheek and I go. Took 10 minutes of searching to find the guys because the girl lost her phone and wallet. Then I saw an 8.5 with the jaw length blonde hair and I had to open her. By the time I got back they were gone. The girl with the blonde hair definitely worked there. I opened her with, she's 140cm! When she's clearly 170. The guy next to her says you're right! Nice! Should have asked anyway for an extra BT spike opportunity. I ran this set terribly but well in some ways. She spoke very little English and showed varying interest over the course of the 15 or so minute intial set. It started out good but as I lost momentum it got harder, especially because I had to engage the guy and sometimes they would talk, and at one point she went over to have a shot with the bartender. I took a lesson from Romeo and just acted like everything was cool even when she spent 2 or 3 minutes completely trying to ignore me. Tried to time bridge but no go, Line closed her and the other guy who was a DJ there. Smiled and said see you when I went to see my friends but the smiles were the kind that you smile when you feel bad about something at the same time. --Reopened at the end of the night because the girl for breakfast hadn't been texting back and I couldn't locate her in the club (she did finally text back after I mentioned her name lol.) The DJ says woah it's the comeback kid! Or something to that effect and I laugh and high five them both. We talk for a little bit about him DJ'ing and her liking to run and dance with my 3 glowsticks. The DJ starts talking to her about something in japanese and she turns away from me at the bar. I chill there for a couple of minutes texting the other girls and then walk over to the weaker position away from the bar and ask if I can listen so I can learn Japanese faster. He says okay. Suddenly the girl is giving me a lot more interest and smiles while looking into my eyes for much longer periods of time. I really am not sure why this is. We talk about a few things and I kino her back and pat her on the head when appropriate, trying not to be too too bad in case she has face to maintain in her social circle. Try to bounce her to breakfast but she really wants to sleep and is allowed to stay downstairs while all the guests are being ushered out. I say bye to both of them and take off. Line closed another blonde girl at the metro by asking where to go like I was lost. She spoke English really well but talked to me in Japanese anyway. When I asked her why she said she thought it was cute lol. I guess that's a good thing. I knew I'd just missed first train but she said to hurry so I left and went there like I was listening. My brain was fried and I was being retarded, should have stayed at her platform and talked for 5 or 10 minutes while her train came. Acted conflicted about asking then said I was hungry did she wanna get breakfast. She really wants to sleep but next time, Line closed. All in all I think I learned a lot and worked up quite a sweat so it was a great night! Plus I got 3 good girls in the pipeline and one really hot super low probability girl! Things I did well: -Tried to give everybody a positive experience and had fun with everyone nearby even if I didn't want to open them -Made sure I really got blown out, or at least made the girls walk away -Got better at obstacle game as the night went on -Managed situations that seemed bad just by pretending they were fine! Things I will improve: -I will make sure to engage my girl so that my wing doesn't lose the set to my bad game -I will get better at communicating and recognizing when my wing is happy with the set -I will stick with sets that I like or at the very least realize when I've been gone too long to do something -I will continue acting like 8's and 9's should be paying attention to me and kino them confidently like I would any other girl Realizations: -I totally forgot, but not letting anything bother you and having fun is an easy and really big DHV -I really can hook 8's and 9's I just need the game to compete with the slew of guys trying to get at them, that and the knowledge of Japanese to communicate because they almost never speak English (and when they do I get blown out)
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Woops! Can't believe I forgot to reply to this! I'm glad you caught up too, all the advice has been helping me improve far beyond what I thought I could manage! This is excellent wisdom and yeah, like I learned tonight. The more people that look at you positively the better because other people do notice. You're definitely right that other sets don't really know the difference between the guy trying to DHV himself and me making friends with the group. You can add this on as a BT spike. Ahh okay. Yeah if I make sure to make it obvious it's a BT spike it's not too weird It's supposed to be a BS palm read, so you could just keep going with it and make it over the top ridiculous. Probably when she told you that you were wrong and she knew about palm reading you just cut the thread at that point instead of doing something like: Oh...then you know that this line means that you're going to have 15 kids with me or something else funny. HAHA! Okay good point. This is definitely something I can apply a lot when I think I'm stuck. I guess what do you do if you feel like you want a second to think of a good response? Ahh okay. Number 2 is really good haha. If you don't ask you can't get what you want right Don't ask the guys, they often lie. I've been putting this into practice and it's actually really funny because the guys will try to say that and I ask the girls and they go we just met. Did you come up with anything? Not that night. I wanted to say something like "You should lick it off!" But at the moment all I can think of is pretending to sniff it and saying it smells good, what is it lol OH MAN! I can't wait to read this! Please no the trauma! This is one way to do it. Another way to think about it is that if you build attraction, you can go back into the set later when they're in a better position logistically, or to use them as social proof for other sets. Ah this all makes a lot of sense, especially now that I've been doing night game a bit more. Gotta get those sets on the way from the bathroom! Not all your sets will open. You generally just follow best practices. Clearly her friends think it's about her and not about you or they ALL would have left. So that implies that it wasn't your problem but that girl's. Haha I hadn't even realized that. Yeah I guess the girl might have had some problem with guys. But some girls seem to do this regardless of the guy that's opening them or how. Is the answer just more social proof and DHVs in front of them without opening? Because short of running into extremely handsome guys that don't want the hottest girls, they seem to be at the club to blow guys out lol Woah, this sounds super hard but really exciting to try Yeah that seems like a very plausible theory. What kinds of facial expressions do you use? Do winks and smiles count? Or stuff like being really goofy? I've tried being silly and sticking my tongue out at girls but usually that goes terribly THIS IS GOOD! I'm going to use this! HAHA! Thanks! I thought it was pretty funny when I said it too This actually really helped me recently, trying to remember to at least look like a gentleman. Because typically I would try to be a gentleman but with game I kind of redid my social interactions from a blank slate and had to relearn what I can and can't use from the past. It helped my close HB Rumba though. Otherwise I would have been like oh shit drunk friend, probably isolation is the right move. This is very true in Japan especially and also in Korea. In fact, I'd say that in Japan the more attractive girls are far less likely to speak English. I would advise that you stick to gaming in Shinjuku, Shibuya and Roppongi to maximize your chances of opening girls who speak English at least decently. Most of the girls in Akihabara are super Japanese so they have no education and don't expose themselves to western entertainment media either. Glad I finally caught up on this. It was great having you come out for the boot camp and looking forward to hearing more about your Japan adventures! Yeah I'm wishing I learned katakana and hiragana before I came here this time, since it takes a lot of time to learn and all the good japanese apps use them. Oh well learning from girls is pretty good too lol! Yeah it's interesting too because I think the more I can hook in Japanese the more I realize that the types of girls I learned to game (because they speak English) have very similar backgrounds and tendencies to each other. Like you said at some point you'll learn to get the types of girls you pursue.
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KWed. Did some approaching in Akihabara with Soupernoob on the way to dinner. Plan was to approach for 30 minutes and goal was to try and bounce a set to ramen. Ended up waiting for bro so did approaches for approx 90 min walking 2 set after crossing intersection. Your scarf is really big, nice! She gives a look, minor response. You could probably wrap your entire body in it. Do you? She turns around and says sorry, starts walking the other way with her friend ?. Bad body language, slow delivery. fast solo set. socks for my cat. no English but takes her headphones out. Redo the joke with Soup's help translating. Jodan, demo ananta kawaii. jk, but you're cute. Think I did logistics of just asked for line. she has to go, didn't push it BC language barrier would've been rough HB 7.5 plus, tall with long silver blue hair and excellent fashion waiting at crosswalk. Fuck. Had to open. Earphones. walk in front and point. earphones out. no English. rpq your shoes are really big opener. laughs. Shopping by yourself? No, work. Maid! yes. High five. light turns, sorry she has to work. I walk in front. Bad body language leaning forward. That's okay. Do you have line? No sorry. Ten seconds only! it'll be fast! Shouldve waited longer and tried to seed something fun quick. Let her go, but definitely should have kept pushing. was kicking myself for an hour for not trying to stack forward and staying in set. Made Soup open some sets. Held my hands out to be handcuffed by the cop maid girls. Giggles. Another set with earphones, bright blue hair. You spilled water on your hair. No English. tried for Japanese joke. Sorry wakaranai. she leaves. Iois ..? from a girl working, she keeps turning back and smiling at me (or my crepe) walk past her to throw away the wrapper. hazukashi! I coverthe side of my face. laughs. what time do you get off? no English. line chat? sorry she can't. that's okay, more kino and leave. One more girl in the cat girl cafe we see (and of course we have to check it out because this is my thing) is returning my kino. grabbing my hand and letting me touch her arms. we just go in to see if there are any really good girls. only 2 girls and 3 customers. she will wait for us to come back. How do you close these kinds of girls? They obviously could be showing interest because it's part of their job, and they probably aren't allowed to give out their info on the clock, but they're still girls and probably want to get closed sometimes right? I realize that's lower probability and more work but I am curious what strategies you guys would use. I know rpq likes to see if he can get the gogo dancers sometimes last set in the arcade. see a really good girl sitting at an arcade machine with hundreds of trading cards. she's really good though. How do you play this game? Ego taberanai. translator. is it like this game on my phone? no not that. laugh and kino. she doesn't know what to do and is a little uncomfortable with kino. I tell her my brother is hungry but she should give me her line and she can show me later. kino was mostly taps, high fives, and squeezing her upper arm. Smiled as I left, stayed a couple minutes nearby bit out of sight because Soup was trying a game. Really hope she replies. She would be a fun girl to try and learn Japanese with and game, plus she was really good lol did well: opened the really good sets when I saw them even if I felt like a bitch Opened from a good position always opened even though I wasn't dressed well or in a great state will improve: eye contact damnit! logistics disco very Japanese! Body language, leaning back, always opening confidently and maintaining good body language PROGRESS THE SARGE realizations: I can run quarter decent game and openers now even on autopillot My openers from China need to be modified to work well in Japan There are a lot of really cute girls that don't speak English I'm getting better at reading the situation and not embarrassing the girls
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Monday Forced Soupernoob to open a 2 set that was decent early in the day, should have done it myself though because I didn't open enough lol Bitch opened a bunch of girls, but let one or two good ones I saw go. Why do I do this to myself
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Did Soupernoob's boot camp with him over the weekend. Friday night game Opened 2 good sets. 45-60 min First was a 3 set that walked by us and I instinctively started speaking Chinese at her. She laughed kept walking past while looking back us so I reopened in the line to A life and wechat closed. Spent more time with her in the club after dancing and running some game. She k-closed me and I time bridged her for Tuesday. Spent 20 minutes leading her around trying to help her find her friends again. Second set was a 6 set in line for the coat check. Everyone's in black, she's in white. Is she an angel? Goofy gesture. Laughs and not quite hooked, BT spike more with something about her hair I think. 10 minute set. Did attraction and qualification, lots of kino. TIme bridged and line closed then ejected so I could go help wing Soupernoob Saturday day game Opened a girl who was moving with a purpose. She turned around a lot (not sure if lost or also trying to shake me off) kept talking until she took out her earphones, led her to wherever she was trying to go, line closed on the street while walking. No English. Night worker she called herself? Night game A life again. Didn't approach much for a while. Got blown out over and over for a while, some 3-5 sets walking past turned away and kept going, usually a situational opener applied too late, one time I was even too loud I think, it sounded like I was shouting. A few 3+ sets on the dance floor because it had the most people, most blew me out or tried to close ranks on me lol, most openers were hand of god and smile, but I was kinda unhappy about getting blown out repeatedly so it didn't help 8-12 minutes. Opened the girl who was being ignored in a 2 set. Immediately responsive. DHV'd a lot, qualified her on skydiving, scuba diving, that she wants to go to california for school, and her English. She was going to buy a drink with her ticket but I stopped her and said I'd get her one if she gives me a kiss on the cheek. She complied immediately and I said that's a good girl. Got her the drink and she said thank you so much. Kept talking with her while the other guy was at the bar with his girl too. Tried to move so I could lock in on the bar and she felt a little awkward maybe because she had to turn to her friend who was 3 feet away and make sure she interacted first. Shortly after they had to go to the bathroom, I time bridged before they left for Monday a week later. Sunday day game Opened a couple of school girls because I wanted to know what they were eating, compliant but despite that I kind of bitched out/decided it wasn't worth the effort to figure out their ages. Walked around and let an attractive set go. FUCK. Then as I continued through the crowded street I couldn't find a really good set farther from the station Opened some girls speaking Chinese, surprised at hearing them speak I asked in Chinese if they were. Nani? Even more confused now, nani? I reply. One of them continues in Chinese saying something and the other says urusai. I go WOW, laugh and walk on, could have made a joke saying but why, or ruuuude. That 3 set was not worth pushing for in the first place though lol
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Opened a couple sets today. Two didn't hook because I was sleepy and didn't speak loud enough Third was at the metro station where I saw a girl who looked reasonably cute walk after me through the exit turnstile. Are you following me! She laughs. Darn too bad she's older and doesn't have great skin. Stay in set for a few minutes anyway walking to the exit. Mostly BT spikes, she doesn't speak too much English so I fill in with Chinese. Traveling. Dance instructor. Me too! Just kidding, but that's really cool (should have added she could teach me or something). Forgot to do logistics discovery until 2 min in, she's meeting her friend. She misspeaks that her friend is waiting for me. Waiting for me!? I mean of course she is *grin*. She laughs and when we find her friend she lingers a bit and looks at me. I tell her I'll see her and kino a little long as we're parting ways
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Haha no problem man! I think it's great that we can share what we know with each other. Did the "seems like you are busy on the weekend" thing come out of nowhere? Maybe it's a a qualification problem, that she doesn't feel like you're into her enough and therefore "are probably seeing other girls." Maybe not, but if it is I think RPQ would suggest having multiple girls helps to deal with their drama ? I think a call is probably good because it gives you the ability to convey more, just make sure you're in a decently good mood before you do it haha! Otherwise you'll probably subcommunicate things you don't want to. I haven't done the texting seminar yet either so I'm pretty noob-ey in the texting department. I hope you can turn the situation in your favor!
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This is a great idea to record your relationship stuff here! Does she seem to have her period really often? I'm definitely not an expert but maybe this is a symptom of something else she feels uncomfortable with. You could try talking to her in person next time you meet about it, something like "So it seems that you feel unhappy with us seeing each other." Which would theoretically either force her to say no and hopefully open her up to explaining when you tell her afterwards that she doesn't respond to your messages and doesn't try to meet you. Or she wouldn't refute it and then you could ask what is making her unhappy. Hopefully with a little bit of probing with an attempt to be empathetic and understand her hangups, you can help her realize what they are and make her feel better about them. That's just my two cents though. I hope it at least gives you some ideas
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