BoomHS Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Friday/Night game 1 After all the introductions, I was excited to get into learning the science of game. I was a bit surprised to realize that there really is a science to the whole thing. It never occurred to me that the best way to improve is to stay consistent with the form and guidelines that were given to us. That way it will be easier to pinpoint where things go wrong and what to improve. There was a lot of information during the dinner before clubbing, and I ended up forgetting that we would go out into the field and practice what everyone shared with us. I was a little nervous at first because while I have experience with cold approaching, I've never done it inside any clubs. As soon as we walked into the club I got extremely nervous because I had no idea what I would even say or how I would say it. I began to feel like a complete noob. I had to wing for my very first set. I noticed the energy my fellow bootcamp student opened the set with allowed for a fun interaction between them immediately. I couldn’t fuck this up by going in there sounding all depressed. So the next best thing was to try to one-up him on the energy. Waiting for him to wave me over, I remembered reading a psychology book that talked about people reciprocating the emotions you show to them. This is to say that if you are awkward then the girls will feel awkward, but if you are energetic and happy then the girls will reciprocate that feeling and it will be easier to follow the flowchart given to us. So when he waved me over, I brought up a fake energetic and happy feeling within me to hide the nervousness. This helped tremendously because it not only grabbed the girl's attention, it allowed the conversation to flow smoothly and into whatever direction I wanted to take it for qualification. Talking to these two girls with a lot of energy set tone for the rest of the night, and I quickly conquered my nervousness and focus on improving the important things with my game. The first night was a good one for me because it helped me realize where I was going wrong with with my game. My biggest weakness was Kino. Throughout all the sets in the first night, the common factor was me not putting my hand on the girl. It was such a problem that throughout sets I would hear the guys yelling, "Kino! Touch the girl! Touch the girl!". They would even come by and place my hand around the girl's waist. It would take my mind out of the set for a second because I couldn't believe it was happening. It also reminded me why I was here, and that I should be having fun while doing this or I won't be as successful as I want to be. I ended up having more fun as more sets went on. I got a bit too excited to wing for one set and stepped on some dude's sneakers which caused an altercation between me and his friends. Other than that it was an amazing first night! Saturday/ Day game 1/ Night game 2 After a late night on Friday, I was ready to get out and do the same thing again Saturday, even though my body felt the complete opposite. During day game, I approached some girls and had interesting conversations, but I always lacked on logistics and qualifying as soon as possible. This made me realize why acknowledging there is really a science to this thing and following the flowchart is extremely important. It gets most of the silly bad habits out of the way immediately so I can stop beating around the bush like a pussy and actually get to the pussy lol. One girl I opened was alone and waiting for someone, so I opened. We shared information about enjoying books and running, but when she had to get going to meet her friend I did not go in for the line close. I could have easily seeding something about books or a beautiful running route but I was more into the conversation and forgot that I should be following the flowchart to get the most out of my interactions. Luckily I took that and improved upon it for my next set which was in a Starbucks(which I really like for game btw). This girl like the same things as the last so it made my job easier in seeding and line closing. After talking for about 30 minutes she had to go and so we set up a day 2 in 2 weeks from now. Unfortunately, I am not too keen on meeting again because while she looked nice in person, she looked like a creature in her line profile so I'ma bit conflicted lol. The night game is where things got really interesting. While I struck out hard at the club we went to, I had the time of my life in there. Thanks again to another fellow bootcamp student and his great social skills for getting us in on a discount! I absolutely loved the girls in here and because of that, opened sets with way too much energy at times. There was one specific set winging for another student where I couldn't really keep the girl's attention and lost her to another guy. My position wasn't favorable to begin with as I came in when they were at the bar with their backs turned. The guy was next to them waiting for his drink as well. I tried to BT spike my girl but she didn't seem to be having it and then the random guy just jumped into the conversation and took it over. This fueled my competitive nature to improve more so that I could become a beast and pull the girl back when something like that happens. Unfortunately, I think it was the next set I opened with way too much fire to improve that I ended up startling the girls. I knew I fucked up the moment I opened. I wanted to facepalm and walk away, but I still tried to continue the set anyway. It didn't work but it was worth it to see if I could save myself from an embarrassing mishap like that. Sunday/ Day game 2 The club on Saturday really got my adrenaline pumping so I had trouble sleeping for Sunday. It was so bad that I just wanted to keep running sets throughout the morning until the final meet. The final day for me wasn't much of a success as I had trouble staying interested in the girls in each set. I wasn't too attracted but I just tried to channel that into improvement so that I could be a better wing or be a polarizing person even when I'm not feeling it that day. The one girl I was interested in and approached ended up being a pretty good set. She was not interested at all at first but as I kept walking and talking, she became a bit more interested. This helped me realize that when gaming, I can't let what the girl says or does affect my mentality. If I do, then I pretty much lose the set. I found if I BT spike and get her laughing, then that means I'm doing well enough to keep her interested. I found it is important to ignore all the negative things that I tell myself about what the girl is feeling. If the set is out of my control then I have no chance to begin with, but if we're talking then there's still a chance, however slim it may be. There are so many variables that are out of my control. It is useless to get hung up on them if I get blown out. After the bootcamp, I kept gaming even when hanging out with friends. Gaming all these nice girls during my everyday life caused my friends say to me that I’m fearless. I feel the same after the bootcamp as I did before, so I just tell them that I’m me and that anyone can do it. The only difference is that this bootcamp has given me a foundation with a very useful skillset that which I can improve on for the rest of my life. Before this bootcamp I would be fine with talking to one girl Now, if I’m talking to one girl, I want to have 2 or 3 in line to talk to next. It almost feels like I’m playing Pokemon and trying to catch them all This was one of the most memorable experiences of my life. I really appreciate everyone involved in the bootcamp weekend! This helped me come out of my shell and practice my social skills a lot more. . I am absolutely grateful and look forward to studying and practicing more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Awesome write-up! Love your writing style. Really made me feel like I was there with you. I have two comments : 1. The girl that looked like a beast in her profile pic. Who cares. If you liked her in person then see her again. 2. I wouldn't automatically assume things are out of control. You wanna think about and action how you can bring things into control Otherwise, really enjoyed reading this and glad you got a lot out of the bootcamp. Keep on sarging! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Congrats and welcome! That's awesome that you've kept up the momentum after your bootcamp. I've seen a lot of guys come and go over the years, and the biggest determining factor in if a guy gets really good is consistency. If you keep doing approaches every day / every week, ask questions and post field reports to take advantage of RPQ and the other guys' knowledge to address your sticking points, you'll keep gradually getting better month over month. And if you keep it up in the long-run, you won't recognize yourself in a year or two. So find a way to keep going out and doing your approaches consistently -- having a wing or other guys to go out with every day is the easiest, but there are a lot of methods to make this happen. The more days per week you do approaches, the more reference experience you'll get, and the faster you'll improve. And take advantage of the forum, chats, weekly calls, and any in-person meetups (I think you guys have a lair in Tokyo too) to ask as many questions as possible. Hope that helps! Maybe I'll see you around if you ever visit Seoul, or next time I visit Japan. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanevast Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Friday/Night game 1 After all the introductions, I was excited to get into learning the science of game. I was a bit surprised to realize that there really is a science to the whole thing. It never occurred to me that the best way to improve is to stay consistent with the form and guidelines that were given to us. That way it will be easier to pinpoint where things go wrong and what to improve. There was a lot of information during the dinner before clubbing, and I ended up forgetting that we would go out into the field and practice what everyone shared with us. I was a little nervous at first because while I have experience with cold approaching, I've never done it inside any clubs. Yeaaaaaaah! Here. We. Go! It was super fun teaching you and the other 3 guys, especially since you were all so different. I'm curious, why hadnt you gone approaching in clubs before? As soon as we walked into the club I got extremely nervous because I had no idea what I would even say or how I would say it. I began to feel like a complete noob. I had to wing for my very first set. I noticed the energy my fellow bootcamp student opened the set with allowed for a fun interaction between them immediately. I couldn’t fuck this up by going in there sounding all depressed. So the next best thing was to try to one-up him on the energy. Waiting for him to wave me over, I remembered reading a psychology book that talked about people reciprocating the emotions you show to them. This is to say that if you are awkward then the girls will feel awkward, but if you are energetic and happy then the girls will reciprocate that feeling and it will be easier to follow the flowchart given to us. So when he waved me over, I brought up a fake energetic and happy feeling within me to hide the nervousness. This helped tremendously because it not only grabbed the girl's attention, it allowed the conversation to flow smoothly and into whatever direction I wanted to take it for qualification. Talking to these two girls with a lot of energy set tone for the rest of the night, and I quickly conquered my nervousness and focus on improving the important things with my game. It's pretty funny how competition inspires you, if it works, it works. The 'faking energy' thing is fine to do, training wheels and all that, over time though you want to cause good emotions in the girl by BT spiking her i.e YOU saying things YOU think are funny that she likely will too. The first night was a good one for me because it helped me realize where I was going wrong with with my game. My biggest weakness was Kino. Throughout all the sets in the first night, the common factor was me not putting my hand on the girl. It was such a problem that throughout sets I would hear the guys yelling, "Kino! Touch the girl! Touch the girl!". They would even come by and place my hand around the girl's waist. It would take my mind out of the set for a second because I couldn't believe it was happening. It also reminded me why I was here, and that I should be having fun while doing this or I won't be as successful as I want to be. I ended up having more fun as more sets went on. I got a bit too excited to wing for one set and stepped on some dude's sneakers which caused an altercation between me and his friends. Other than that it was an amazing first night! Kino is everyone's biggest weakness. In all my years I think i've only seen one or two people who already did enough kino or came close to 'enough'. guys yelling 'kino, touch the girl touch the girl' was me. , so was the putting your hand around the girls waist. Saturday/ Day game 1/ Night game 2 After a late night on Friday, I was ready to get out and do the same thing again Saturday, even though my body felt the complete opposite. During day game, I approached some girls and had interesting conversations, but I always lacked on logistics and qualifying as soon as possible. This made me realize why acknowledging there is really a science to this thing and following the flowchart is extremely important. It gets most of the silly bad habits out of the way immediately so I can stop beating around the bush like a pussy and actually get to the pussy lol. One girl I opened was alone and waiting for someone, so I opened. We shared information about enjoying books and running, but when she had to get going to meet her friend I did not go in for the line close. I could have easily seeding something about books or a beautiful running route but I was more into the conversation and forgot that I should be following the flowchart to get the most out of my interactions. Luckily I took that and improved upon it for my next set which was in a Starbucks(which I really like for game btw). This girl like the same things as the last so it made my job easier in seeding and line closing. After talking for about 30 minutes she had to go and so we set up a day 2 in 2 weeks from now. Unfortunately, I am not too keen on meeting again because while she looked nice in person, she looked like a creature in her line profile so I'ma bit conflicted lol. Yep, the structure is designed the way it is for good reasons, it's originally based on mystery method, which is the GENESIS of all pick up. Starbucks is fantastic, if you keep practicing you can do also stuff like run non verbal game through windows and number close girls without even having to actually speak to them , it's pretty memorable. Good job on approaching. The night game is where things got really interesting. While I struck out hard at the club we went to, I had the time of my life in there. Thanks again to another fellow bootcamp student and his great social skills for getting us in on a discount! I absolutely loved the girls in here and because of that, opened sets with way too much energy at times. There was one specific set winging for another student where I couldn't really keep the girl's attention and lost her to another guy. My position wasn't favorable to begin with as I came in when they were at the bar with their backs turned. The guy was next to them waiting for his drink as well. I tried to BT spike my girl but she didn't seem to be having it and then the random guy just jumped into the conversation and took it over. This fueled my competitive nature to improve more so that I could become a beast and pull the girl back when something like that happens. Getting out gamed by other guys can happen, always remember it and do better next time. Holding attention usually comes down to Kino and BT Spikes. Unfortunately, I think it was the next set I opened with way too much fire to improve that I ended up startling the girls. I knew I fucked up the moment I opened. I wanted to facepalm and walk away, but I still tried to continue the set anyway. It didn't work but it was worth it to see if I could save myself from an embarrassing mishap like that. Embarrassments happen, so long as you've improving it's fine, RPQ has plenty of embarrassing stories about me and my silliness that he can share with you . Sunday/ Day game 2 The club on Saturday really got my adrenaline pumping so I had trouble sleeping for Sunday. It was so bad that I just wanted to keep running sets throughout the morning until the final meet. The final day for me wasn't much of a success as I had trouble staying interested in the girls in each set. I wasn't too attracted but I just tried to channel that into improvement so that I could be a better wing or be a polarizing person even when I'm not feeling it that day. The one girl I was interested in and approached ended up being a pretty good set. She was not interested at all at first but as I kept walking and talking, she became a bit more interested. This helped me realize that when gaming, I can't let what the girl says or does affect my mentality. If I do, then I pretty much lose the set. I found if I BT spike and get her laughing, then that means I'm doing well enough to keep her interested. I found it is important to ignore all the negative things that I tell myself about what the girl is feeling. If the set is out of my control then I have no chance to begin with, but if we're talking then there's still a chance, however slim it may be. There are so many variables that are out of my control. It is useless to get hung up on them if I get blown out. Essentially you've gotta be the one leading the interaction, the leader in a group doesn't look to how other people are emotionally reacting in a single moment to make decisions, he decides where he wants the group to go and takes them there while making adjustments on the way to help things work best for all. That negative voice in your head that tells you stuff is an enemy that needs to be overcome. I'm gonna quote a 16th century Ronin, as I think his words are particularly accurate here: "Determine that today you will overcome your self of the day before, tomorrow you will win over those of lesser skill, and later you will win over those of greater skill. Miyamoto Musashi" Although he may be referring to other people, I think you can also relate this to yourself, as the point is accurate. After the bootcamp, I kept gaming even when hanging out with friends. Gaming all these nice girls during my everyday life caused my friends say to me that I’m fearless. I feel the same after the bootcamp as I did before, so I just tell them that I’m me and that anyone can do it. The only difference is that this bootcamp has given me a foundation with a very useful skillset that which I can improve on for the rest of my life. Before this bootcamp I would be fine with talking to one girl Now, if I’m talking to one girl, I want to have 2 or 3 in line to talk to next. It almost feels like I’m playing Pokemon and trying to catch them all This was one of the most memorable experiences of my life. I really appreciate everyone involved in the bootcamp weekend! This helped me come out of my shell and practice my social skills a lot more. . I am absolutely grateful and look forward to studying and practicing more! Theres a book that's titled 'Feel the fear and do it anyway' You don't need to read the book, the title is the whole point. You've understood that lesson. Another important one that you've got is that this is a TOOL you can use to improve your life in multiple areas. I'm really happy to hear that the bootcamp had such an affect on you, as it did on me. It was truly life changing and I hope you get as much from it as you can. Anything you need, just hit me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomHS Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 Friday/Night game 1 After all the introductions, I was excited to get into learning the science of game. I was a bit surprised to realize that there really is a science to the whole thing. It never occurred to me that the best way to improve is to stay consistent with the form and guidelines that were given to us. That way it will be easier to pinpoint where things go wrong and what to improve. There was a lot of information during the dinner before clubbing, and I ended up forgetting that we would go out into the field and practice what everyone shared with us. I was a little nervous at first because while I have experience with cold approaching, I've never done it inside any clubs. Yeaaaaaaah! Here. We. Go! It was super fun teaching you and the other 3 guys, especially since you were all so different. I'm curious, why hadnt you gone approaching in clubs before? Mainly because of the high paced atmosphere. I had no idea how to approach in clubs before, and the atmosphere intimidated me. Unless the girl opened me, I would overthink things in the club and psyche myself out of approaching. Opening and BT spiking are the hardest concepts for me to grasp. It's because I tend to revert back to my shy, introverted self from time to time. Sometimes it's difficult for me to bring out the energy while being creative and funny at the same time. I just blank out because I'm so focused on bringing out the energy to set the tone when I open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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