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  1. I also don't like it when girls shave down there. I prefer waxed or lasered — perfectly smooth and no stubble!
  2. Congrats bro, and welcome! The most important next step here is follow-up — make sure you keep up the habit of doing approaches after your bootcamp, every single day if possible, especially for the first 30-60 days. Set a quota, whether it's 5 approaches a day, 3 approaches a day, or even 2 or 1 approaches a day — most important thing is building the habit. It's hard to do and takes will-power, but if you do this immediately following your bootcamp, it will lock in all the lessons you learned throughout the weekend. Guys who don't do this will typically wind up 3-6 months later in basically the same place as they started, except with a distant memory of this one weekend where they temporarily had the ability to approach girls ? So to make sure you get the best value out of the training, make sure you're diligent about putting a follow-up daily approach program in place. It's hard (having a friend to do it with helps immensely), but this is the best gift you can give yourself of the future!
  3. I love this piece, and it's one of the few that have seriously affected my world view. So glad you had this saved, since I tried to reference it a while back and found that it was no longer online. Thank you for sharing! Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
  4. Congrats and welcome! That's awesome that you've kept up the momentum after your bootcamp. I've seen a lot of guys come and go over the years, and the biggest determining factor in if a guy gets really good is consistency. If you keep doing approaches every day / every week, ask questions and post field reports to take advantage of RPQ and the other guys' knowledge to address your sticking points, you'll keep gradually getting better month over month. And if you keep it up in the long-run, you won't recognize yourself in a year or two. So find a way to keep going out and doing your approaches consistently -- having a wing or other guys to go out with every day is the easiest, but there are a lot of methods to make this happen. The more days per week you do approaches, the more reference experience you'll get, and the faster you'll improve. And take advantage of the forum, chats, weekly calls, and any in-person meetups (I think you guys have a lair in Tokyo too) to ask as many questions as possible. Hope that helps! Maybe I'll see you around if you ever visit Seoul, or next time I visit Japan. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
  5. Awesome write-up bro! Sounds like you learned a lot on your bootcamp and you know exactly what areas you need to work on to keep improving moving forward. Looking forward to seeing you in action! (Love the handle, by the way haha). Sent from my SM-G950N using Tapatalk
  6. Awesome seeing your progress on your bootcamp man! To be honest, after seeing you the first night, it looked like you were going to have a lot of trouble overcoming approach anxiety. But fast forward to day 3 daygame, and you were a machine! Trailblazer or I would just point at a girl, and you would just go without hesitating. And you looked super smooth in set. So awesome to see that kind of transformation! I hope you're keeping up with approaching on your side of the world. We're an ocean apart, but the guys in Seoul are here to help if you have any questions or sticking points along the way. And as RPQ mentioned, I'm sure a couple of us wouldn't need much convincing to come out to a tropical paradise full of Japanese girls [GRINNING FACE WITH SMILING EYES] Sent from my SM-G950N using Tapatalk
  7. Great field report bro! It was awesome seeing you improve over the bootcamp weekend -- total transformation by day 3! You looked like a natural in daygame sets. Also really good to see you active in the alumni chat and keeping the momentum going by hitting up daygame consistently. Keep that up, keep asking questions about issues you run into, and you're going to be crushing it! Sent from my SM-G950N using Tapatalk
  8. Ar-miiiiin! Good stuff bro! I'm really glad you decided to take the bootcamp. You're right in that it's going to continue to pay massive dividends over the years (as long as you continue to ask questions and ask for feedback on your field reports). Looking forward to going out with you more often! Sent from my SM-G950N using Tapatalk
  9. Welcome to the A Team bro! I kind of like 'DKNova' actually, when I say it out loud haha. DEE-KAY-NOVAAAAA!!! It's been great having you in the group and having you contribute! Your level of drive is inspirational. Looking forward to epic times ahead! Sent from my SM-N920S using Tapatalk
  10. Great having you on board bro! This is just the beginning -- if you keep going out, asking questions about your sticking points, and applying the advice as consistently as you have been since taking the bootcamp, you're going to crush it. Sent from my SM-N920S using Tapatalk
  11. Teasing / challenging. Saying things that the girl may not like as opposed to just agreeing with her and giving her validation for everything she says. Having real qualification material and attempting to screen the girl out by seeing if she matches it. Kinoing. Making lightly sexual jokes. Basically doing anything that you should be doing to move the interaction in the direction you want it to (you having sex with her), but you're afraid to do because you're afraid of getting bad reactions from the girl. Doing the things that allow you to wind up banging the girl instead of falling into the friend zone. You have to LEAD the set in the direction you know it needs to go instead of pursuing good reactions and approval from the girl. Sent from my SM-N920S using Tapatalk
  12. Congrats on approaching! Quick feedback: - If you're going to do a direct opener, you need to stack immediately into something else. No awkward silence. Don't expect the girl to respond. London daygame guys stack with "What I noticed about you was..." then talk about what you noticed or like about her. Then transition that into a cold read. Watch the videos I linked for examples. - When a girl says she's on her way to do something or meet someone, I always ask what time it starts / what time she's meeting them. If it's soon or in the past, I'll tease her: "You're (running) late! Are you always late? Are your friends going to be mad at you?" Now I know how much time I have to run the set, how hurried she is. It's hard to tell if your girl left because she was bored or because she had somewhere to be. If you find out her time constraint, you can handle the set better. - Seems like you did most of the talking. That's normal in the beginning until you hook the set, and you want to do that occasionally to share things about yourself. But you want to do more to get her to invest. Two of the best ways I can think of to do this are 1) bullshit cold reads / teasing. Run with your role play even after she contradicts it, make it really ridiculous, and she'll want to invest hard to correct you. 2) Make it about her, not you. You're trying to understand her as a person, at the core of who she is. You're trying to get a picture in your head of what her life looks like and what makes her tick. Example of both: So when she says she studies accounting, instead of relating it back to yourself and what you know about the subject (I hated accounting), make it about her, and make it fun: "Accounting?! No, I don't believe you. Accountants are huge nerds. So you spend all day sitting in front of a computer, moving numbers in spreadsheets?" -haha no, it's not like that! "So you must be really good at math then. Like a math wiz, you can calculate all the equations in your head." -no I hate math! "You hate math?! Then why'd you decide to become an accountant?" -hahaha I don't know. "So when you graduate, you want to do bookkeeping for a big company?" -haha no I don't plan on working. "Oh... then why are you studying accounting?" - well, my sister studied accounting. "Ohhh I see now. So your parents pressured you into studying accounting because your sister did, but you really enjoy modeling." -haha yes. "Yeah it's similar in Korea too. I'm korean so I know parents like jobs like accounting, professors, doctors, and lawyers. You must be a really good daughter, I bet your parents love you so much they never let you leave the house." -haha no actually I live alone. Etc. Same content of the conversation, but in my example you're showing a lot of interest in getting to know who she is, and finding out the information in a way that's fun for her. Whereas in your example you were mostly relating her answers back to yourself, or asking her interview-style questions which aren't particularly fun for her to answer. Really good is if you can get into her motivations, emotions, and character traits. This would be something like "Wow, most Malaysian girls I know live with their parents and are supported by them. That's really impressive that you moved out on your own at such a young age, you must be really independent. Wasn't it scary?" - "You can even buy me dinner?" This may be ok as a bt spike, but you kind of carried the thread. In general I probably wouldn't make a joke like that because she might not realize whether you're joking,and now you're putting more pressure on her if she decides to meet you. It's hard to tell from your FR of she got uncomfortable at this point. With those type of jokes, I would make it extreme: "Wow, you're a rich girl! Yes!!! That means you can take me on a trip to Hawaii! Ah, I can't wait to tell my mom a rich girl is taking me to Hawaii!" -hahaha noooo I'm not rich! "Ohh, really? That's too bad Ok don't worry, I'll take you out for something to eat so you don't starve to death! Hey, do you like xxxx food?" (Seed a date) - "You know I will ask you for a date right?" Don't say this! Framing it as a "date" puts unnecessary pressure on the girl. You just want her to meet you, not make her rationalize whether she sees you as a potential boyfriend after a 5 minute interaction. You're also putting yourself in the frame of trying to court her. Keep it light and fun. Your goal is that she walks away thinking that was fun and she really enjoyed interacting with you, so if she meets you again it's going to be more of that fun. - "No kino" -- I wouldn't worry too much about kino during daygame. Yes you can use a bit of kino, but it should be minimal, and if you have solid eye contact and a flirty vibe I find it's not necessary in daygame. Some of my daygame sets I have zero kino. Night game is completely different, I use heavy kino. Some easy ways to get kino in in daygame if you do want to practice it: 1) Sometimes I'll poke the girl in the shoulder with my finger while teasing her, or playfully tap her shoulder (VERY LIGHTLY) with the back of my fingers while teasing or playfully disqualifying her. 2) Introduce yourself and hold out your hand, but instead of shaking her hand just keep holding it while looking at her eyes and continuing conversation. Don't pull away until she does. If your romance vibe is strong enough, sometimes you'll just end up holding the girl's hand the whole set. Sent from my SM-N920S using Tapatalk
  13. Looks like you're already aware of what I think was your biggest blunder here: not closing her on the d2. If you get a girl in a situation where sex could go down and it doesn't, she may (subconsciously or not) rationalize why she didn't end up having sex with you and justify it in her mind, which will make it harder for you to close her later. You had a logistically good closing situation and you should have continued moving it forward unless she was making a serious effort to stop you -- listen to girls' subcomms, not their words. A frame I use when closing the girl is the Rake frame -- she's so sexy I can't control myself. I'll playfully blame the girl and tell her to stop. She'll ask stop what, and I'll say stop being so sexy, you're turning me on and I can't control myself, I don't think I can resist you. Or I'll tell her to stop distracting me from (whatever we're ostensibly doing while I escalate on her). I'll alternate that with periods of backing off and resuming the activity with light kino, then saying something like "God, you are SO hot" and start kissing on her neck again, acting like I can't resist and have no choice but to do so. Once I d-move the girl, I'll give her a look that's kind of hard to describe. It's kind of a mix of 1) I'm completely overcome by lust and I NEED this right now, like I'm a heroine addict getting his fix and 2) almost like I'm pleading with them to stop turning me on, like I'm some pathetic creature who has zero self control, and I don't even really want to be doing this right now but I have no choice because of what the girl is doing to me. I find this turns girls on a LOT to be desired in that way, and it's allowed me to close a lot of girls recently even in high LMR situations where I thought it wasn't going to go down. It's awesome on a lot of levels -- one because it naturally mixes in push pull into your close (whereas if you're all push the girl might freak out). It also flips the script and makes it so the girl is the one seducing you, not the other way around. So now she's an active participant in the closing process -- it's not that you're trying to manipulate her into having sex with you, it's that you're both sharing this experience of being overcome by each other and things just kind of happening. Thirdly it triggers a natural need all girls have, to be desired strongly by a man, so it turns them on a lot despite what their logical brain is telling them. A couple other points on your FR: - Being mad / upset with the girl will almost never serve the purpose you hope it will. - How long were you together on the d1 before trying to close her? Seems like it was probably too fast. Usually I need to be with the girl for a minimum of 3-4 hours for the close to feel natural to her and not awkward. In Korea at least, trying to close too early can blow you out with the girl and she won't meet you again -- see my note above on girls post-rationalizing why they didn't have sex with you. Sent from my SM-N920S using Tapatalk
  14. Good stuff! What's the finger nail polish question thing? How long were you communicating through text outside the glass? Was this just 2 or 3 messages you showed her that she laughed at, or an extended interaction? Sent from my SM-N920S using Tapatalk
  15. 1. What was her demeanor throughout the date? Did she seem engaged and seem like she was having a good time? 2. Logistics. When I lived at kyodae stn, one station away from gangnam, it was a lot harder to get home bounces simply because of that taxi ride. It's soooo much easier to home bounce girls if you can just walk them to your house. I would suggest having them meet you within walkable distance to your house if possible. If not, meet them and taxi earlier if possible to a first or second venue that's near your house. I imagine it would be easier to get her in a cab if your reason for doing so was that you know a great place for blah blah blah, it's only about 5 minutes from here, or whatever. 3. It seems like from your report that you were doing a lot of talking about yourself. That stuff is good, but I'd say the vast majority of my conversations are about the girl, her passions, her interests, her emotions, her experiences. It's straight Dale Carnegie -- everyone loves themselves, so if you want people to like you, talk about them. Sent from my SM-N920S using Tapatalk
  16. The Stoic Cato advised that one should only feel shame for that which is truly shameful. Here you don't have anything you should feel bad about. Like you said, the girl had bad frames about sex, and it was probably doomed from the beginning. Perhaps if you were a bit smoother you would have been able to blow past them. But also maybe not. In any case, you tried, you took right action and pushed your own boundaries, and now you come away with more experience to draw from on future girls. It takes a lot of experience trying this stuff and fucking things up before you get calibrated enough that your escalation feels smooth and natural, and you're comfortable and confident with your frames around sex. I still fuck up regularly. But every girl I bring back to my place, I'm a bit smoother, a bit more confident, and a bit more solid in my frames. I had that same experience multiple times this year where I escalated too fast/hard on a girl and she ended up leaving, and in at least one case she never messaging me again. It stings for a couple days---you feel like you've done something wrong, like you've been rejected. But give it a few days to sleep it off, and the bad feeling will fade. What will be left is more points of reference experience that your brain will subconsciously use to calibrate next time you're escalating on a girl. In the end, humans have been having sex for pleasure (not simply for copulation) since before the dawn of our species (there's a good Ted talk RedPoleQ recommended about this, but the name of the speaker escapes me). So when you try to escalate on a girl and she freaks out, you're just being a normal human and she's the one being weird I don't mean that in a judgmental way---some girls have serious issues around sex due to their past experiences. But it's simply up to you if you want to invest the time to work through these issues with her, or if you want to just go for girls who are already comfortable with sex.
  17. This may be a bit different than the typical bootcamp field report—I figure enough of these reports have already outlined the basic structure of the bootcamp and what to expect on each day, so I'm going to focus more on my personal background as someone who already had a pretty decent background in pickup before going into the bootcamp. I figure my experience may be relevant to someone else with a similar background as me who is debating whether taking a bootcamp will be beneficial to them or not. Also note that I took my bootcamp almost 3 months ago, so a lot of this is in retrospect after having a lot of time to put into practice what I learned during the bootcamp, and reflect on how it's been useful to me. Here we go: --- I came into the bootcamp already having a pretty solid background in pickup. I first came to Korea in 2008 and started doing game stuff on my own, watching a bunch of RSD videos and then going out 2 or 3 nights a week and approaching a ton of girls. So before taking the bootcamp, I had already hooked up with a few dozen women in Korea and considered myself to be pretty good. That said, I wasn't at the level I wanted to be at. I wanted to be able to approach any girl at any time of day in any environment (street, cafe, subway, etc.); at the time I was doing well at night, but had a lot of AA during the day. I wanted to be dating the hottest and highest-caliber girls in Seoul, but most of the girls I was getting were "pretty good". I wanted to have multiple simultaneous long-term relationships with these girls, not just bang them once, but I didn't know how to manage multiple relationships and keep the girls around long-term without committing to being exclusive with one girl. So after a lot of deliberation and on the strong recommendation of my good friend Vision, who I kept going to for advice ("Bro, just take the bootcamp—it will answer all your questions."), I decided to take the bootcamp. This field report is a collection of some of the more important lessons I learned throughout the weekend of my bootcamp. Taking the bootcamp—empty your cup I decided to enter the bootcamp as a blank slate. One of my favorite quotes is from the Zen concept of Shoshin: "In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities; in the expert's mind there are few." While I might think I already know a lot about picking up Korean girls, I figured I would get the most value out of the weekend if I emptied my cup and acted like I was a beginner. I decided I would do whatever RedPoleQ told me to throughout the weekend, even if I disagreed or it was completely different from what had been working for me in the past. Then after giving his methods a try for the weekend, I could reflect on it and decide later whether I found his methods more or less effective than my old methods. After all, I was paying RedPoleQ to teach me everything he could within a weekend—any time I spent arguing with him or not doing what he said would just limit the amount of time I had to learn his philosophy and methods. For anyone going into a bootcamp, I would highly recommend this approach. Assume everything RedPoleQ says is correct, even if you may already have an opinion that's different from his, and you'll get the most value out of the weekend. You can always go back to what you were doing later if you really feel his methods don't work after giving them a fair shot, but spending the weekend disagreeing with him is not a good use of your limited time with him. I can say confidently after taking the bootcamp (and having RedPoleQ help me multiple times to save a long-term relationship afterward) that he understands Asian female psychology better than anyone I've ever met, and he's scarily accurate at predicting how girls will respond and knowing what the best course of action is. So after having a chance to put everything into practice, I don't disagree with anything he taught us during the bootcamp, and am using his method practically to a T instead of most of what I was using in the past. Body language quick-fixes RedPoleQ fixed a couple minor issues with my body language: not crossing arms or clasping them in front of me when standing still, and not standing with my feet too close together. (RedPoleQ: "You look like a lecturer or something." Haha). Since then, I've been spending some time focusing on my body language and how I'm holding myself (just stand up tall with your hands at your sides—it feels uncomfortable at first, but displays a lot of confidence), I've noticed I get better reactions from girls and more girls are checking me out. Playboy posture! These are things that are hard to notice on my own, but with RedPoleQ watching me, they were almost immediate fixes that started getting me better results. Practice plowing For practice, RedPoleQ forced me to not eject early from sets and to push the set as long as I could, even when I wasn't into the girl. At first I thought this was a waste of time because I didn't want to spend time talking to girls I wasn't attracted to. But this turned out to be really good practice for my game, because I started learning out how to plow and force a conversation to keep going even if the girl wasn't particularly fun or interesting to be around. I found this skill to be very beneficial in sets with girls who I *am* interested in, because a) sometimes they're not immediately responsive and it's helpful to learn how to plow until they open up, and b) practicing having casual / fun banter with girls who I didn't want anything from ended up helping me relax a lot more and be more fun in sets with girls I did like (as opposed to just being outcome focused and trying to get her number). It also helped me become an awesome wing man for friends, because I'm now really good at occupying/entertaining the fat/ugly friend long enough for my friend to chat up her hot friend and get her number. (In the past I was a terrible wing, because I wasn't good at talking to girls I wasn't attracted to). State-based vs non-state-based game In the past, my game was always dependent on being "in state", as RSD calls it. When I'm "in state" with my friends at a nightlife venue, my interactions with girls typically go pretty well, because I'm generally a fun, positive person to be around. The problem with the state-based approach is that during the day when I wasn't with friends, I usually wasn't in a "good state" and thus I would pussy out from approaching at all. And when I did push myself to approach, I felt nervous and my approaches ended up being pretty lame and awkward for both me and the girl. Another problem was that I was usually drinking a lot of alcohol when I went out at night in order to help me get "in state". Which is a pretty miserable habit in general for health, productivity, and overall life balance. RedPoleQ's style is structured enough that now after the bootcamp, I have a rough routine of what I should say and do to get the interaction to go well. So now, even if I'm not in a good state and I haven't talked to anyone yet that day, I feel confident doing the approach. (Well, AA never completely goes away—but most of the time I'm able to overcome it and do the approach anyway). In essence, having a plan of what to say during my day approaches near-obliterated my approach anxiety. I previously thought getting over AA was a matter of just doing a lot of approaches and eventually getting used to it. But learning a solid plan of what to say when I approach a girl, instead of just relying on being in state and winging it, gave me a lot of confidence to approach girls during the day. I also now have a better idea of the things the need to happen during an initial interaction with a girl to maximize the chances of her meeting me up for a day 2, whereas in the past my results were pretty unpredictable because I didn't have a clear system. So I can be more like a sniper in my approaches of going for the girls I really like and maximizing my chances of getting them, instead of being like a shotgun where I blast a ton of girls and randomly wind up getting some of them. I'm still a fan of getting in state for a night out—of course being in an awesome, positive mood helps your approaches immensely. But RedPoleQ's method gave me a framework to use even when I'm not in state, at any time of day. So I now feel a lot more confident approaching during the daytime because I know I have a reliable set of tools to fall back on. (And now I don't feel the need to get hammered when I go out at night before feeling confident approaching ) BT spikes: Becoming unrejectable RedPoleQ taught us how to plow when a girl isn't immediately responsive. Basically how to handle sets where you go up and deliver your opener to the girl, and she's completely cold or rude to you. BT spikes are ways to get the girl laughing and build attraction. RedPoleQ is hilarious, and gave us a lot of examples of different things we can say to the girl in different situations to get her laughing, even if the set isn't going well. You can literally plow with these one after another until you finally find something that makes the girl laugh. Since the bootcamp, I had a set where one of the girls literally told me to fuck off right when I opened them. I plowed with some BT spikes, and 30-60 seconds into the set (when she realized how hilarious and awesome I am ), she apologized for being rude, and a few minutes later I number closed her. Unlimited topics to talk about One of the biggest problems I used to have when I wasn't in state was running out of things to talk about with the girls, at which point I would end up talking about something random that doesn't necessarily lead the interaction in the direction I want it to go. RedPoleQ's use of qualification provided me with a nearly unlimited list of topics to talk about, and these topics all help lead the interaction toward me eventually closing the girl. He had us brainstorm a list of the qualities our ideal girl would possess. So now when we're in a set with a girl, we have a list of information we want to find out about her to see if she may be our ideal girl. These topics give you a chance to screen her out early if you find out some information that would make you not compatible, and also help build a connection with the girl where she feels like you're uniquely interested in her and she's earned your attraction. So another reason I now feel a lot more confident approaching girls when I'm not in state (as mentioned previously) is because I know I have a bunch of conversational topics to fall back on, so I'll never run out of things to talk about. Getting the girl to meet you again In the past, I used to try to get as many phone numbers as possible, because I knew a large percentage of them wouldn't respond over text or I wouldn't be able to get them to meet me. I never knew which girls would meet me again (and for the ones who didn't respond over text, why), so I simply played a numbers game where I would get as many phone numbers as possible. RedPoleQ's method allows you to find out in the initial interaction if the girl is likely to meet you again, and if not, the reasons why. Most guys will try to get the phone number ASAP and hope for the best, but a lot of girls will give you their phone number simply to get rid of you, and have no intentions of ever responding to your calls / messages. With RedPoleQ's method, the phone number is a side effect of the girl agreeing to meet up with you again, not the end-goal of the interaction. If you use this method and have enough time to run your sets properly, the number of girls who give you their phone number and flake on you goes down drastically. Unfortunately, I still do have girls who flake on me or never respond :'( — I don't think that number will ever go to zero no matter how good you are! But this method allows me to pursue only the girls I'm really interested in, pursue them hard, and maximize my chances of getting them to meet me, instead of dividing my resources across dozens of girls, each with a low chance of meeting up with me again. A ton of other mind-blowing shit This only scratches the surface. I have over 3000 words of notes I took during bootcamp, and I'd love to write more about of the revelations I had here. But I'm going to end my FR here because it's been 3 months, and Tattoo has been nagging me to finish my FR so I can finally access the forums and share some of the stuff I'm working on xD. And also I think this is already a long enough read as is! The community The bootcamp is just one weekend, and while you can make massive gains in a weekend, it's really the start of a longer ongoing journey of improvement. One of the best things about taking the bootcamp is the awesome community of guys you have access to afterward. It's now been 3 months since my bootcamp, and I'd say I've continued to improve every week since. The main reason I've been able to keep focused improving my game is due to the awesome group of A-Team guys in Seoul. At the time of this writing, there's a group of guys in Gangnam who are going out almost every day. After taking the bootcamp, you can continue to go out with these guys, watch them do approaches, talk with them, learn from them, and get their feedback on your approaches. There's an active group chat on kakao talk where guys are constantly asking good questions and talking about what's working for them. And also the forums (which honestly I haven't seen yet because it's taken me so long to finish my FR haha—but I look forward to finally reading some of the more useful threads I've heard the other guys talking about once I get access!). Basically, if you choose to take advantage of it, you can surround yourself with guys who are constantly going out and who are dedicated to improving their game. As Jim Rohn would say, "You are the average of the 5 people you spend the most time with," so in my opinion this is a huge unspoken benefit of taking the bootcamp. One more note—choosing to go with the Platinum package When I did the bootcamp, I decided to go for the most expensive package offered—the platinum package. For those considering it, I thought I'd post my reasons for doing so. For one, the platinum package comes with one free advanced seminar, and half-price on all other advanced courses. At the time of this writing, RedPoleQ offers two advanced classes: A text-messaging seminar and a sex seminar. Since my bootcamp, I've taken both, and both were IMMENSELY helpful for my game, so I can highly recommend both courses. I would say if you're serious about improving with women, you're probably going to want to take both of these at some point eventually. So personally it made sense to just do the platinum package from the beginning and get the free / discounted advanced seminars, in addition to the other benefits that come with the platinum package. The other benefits include 1) being able to take the bootcamp again and again in the future as many times as you like for free, and 2) unlimited follow-up email and phone call support with RedPoleQ, among other things. #2 especially was a huge motivator for me doing the platinum package, because I wanted Martin's ongoing advice in managing my multiple long-term relationships. Since the bootcamp, Martin has already helped me save my relationship one of my regulars who has tried to break up with me 3 or 4 times now, haha. Without quick access to his advice on how to handle certain tricky situations, I definitely would have effed something up and lost her by now. So if you're serious about improving your success with women over the next year, in my opinion the platinum package is absolutely worth the upgrade, and you'll be getting significantly more value than what you spend on it. --- Hope that was helpful to someone who's considering taking the bootcamp! Looking forward to hopefully connecting with you in the kakao chat and going out with you in Gangnam
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