ShinChoc

Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I left Korea for China. China seems to offer waaaay more opportunities for career and business than Korea

Yes.....any point that you wanna make that I should understand?

Damn, I fucked up this relationship. Glad that I know better now!

Awesome notes! I will put this book higher on my reading list ~ do you think that this book can be read before his other book Rich Dad, Poor Dad? I haven't read any of his books, wondering if I can read them out of order

Not sure what SEM means, but all the other All Asia Summit posts had it in their title, so ? I really enjoyed this year's summit. For me it was a mostly relaxing time hanging out with fellow alumni, with some very useful classroom time, mixed in with some intensive approaching stints. My main goal with coming to the summit this year was to continue to build on and keep a good relationship with the guys in the chat groups who regularly give me advice. I think that face-time is super important for keeping people connected, and considering how much value the people in the community have provided to me over the years, I felt that it was well worth the financial investment that coming to Korea from China costs. Speaking of costs, I managed to get a pretty good price on a Thursday night flight ticket, as well as a really inexpensive but still great quality AirBnb in the Yeoksam part of Gangnam. Friday was introduction day. I was pretty stoked, as I had already managed to home-bounce a girl I had approached at Taco Bell earlier that day. Unfortunately I couldn't overcome her "We just met" resistance, which is fair enough, considering that I knew her for less than an hour at the point of the homebounce haha. Anyway, I made sure to show up early to the summit meeting place so that I could possibly get some beforehand chat time with any alumni who were already there. It's often the casual conversations with the guys where you often get drips of gold information that can benefit your life tremendously if you pay attention. Later that night we all hit the Itaewon strip to game. Itaewon had tons of girls, but I find it very difficult to get sets to hook there, maybe because so many Korean guys are out there hunting so the girls have tougher shields up Saturday was a day filled with lots of practical lessons related to storytelling and building a Routine Stack. The storytelling class was offered by Sage, a person who I find is a very skilled not only at effective storytelling, but also at giving thoughtful compliments to girls (and his witty humor made his storytelling class as entertaining as it was useful). The Routine Stack class was powered by RedPoleQ, and I found this information particularly relevant, as I've been spending the past couple months completely revamping my Routine Stack, and during the talks that day I heard lots of great ideas that I've added to my game. We spent that night out on the Gangnam strip, and it was a great time seeing everyone out there hanging out and opening sets. I was more interested in chatting with the bros than I was in opening sets, but I somehow managed to wing McConnell and end up with an instant date bounce with our girls to a nearby bar. I definitely think that my girl was closeable, but we didn't have the luxury of time to divide and conquer the girls, since both McConnell and I had to rest up for the final day of summit. Sunday was a day filled with lots of supplementary information that guys who are intermediate pickup level and above might find most useful. The courses I attended included taking sexy videos (led by McConnell and Kane), Shibari (led by McConnell), and Fashion (led by McConnell). All three courses were relevant to me, as those are all areas in my game that I am looking to improve upon. My favorite was definitely the Shibari course, particularly the cool looking neck chain that McConnell showed up how to tie. I was super tired (and Romeo's couch was super comfortable) and fell asleep at the beginning of the fashion course, but thankfully I recorded the audio on my phone, so maybe I can still learn something. We spent the last night on the same Gangnam strip from the previous night. A non-Alumni summit member and I bounced a Korean two-set to a bar and then to his nearby home. We weren't able to close the girls because of a time-constraint, but I learned a lot from seeing how he has his home set up to BT spike, entertain, and thrill girls who he is trying to close. I've since borrowed a couple of things from him to make my own home more appealing to girls, am looking forward to seeing what effect it has. Overall it was another great year at summit. I'm really glad that I came and got some face-time with the guys, particularly with two of my Mastermind members who happened to be in attendance. Really grateful to be part of such an intelligent community of guys, looking forward to leveling up more and more every year!

Not sure what SEM means, but all the other All Asia Summit posts had it in their title, so ? I really enjoyed this year's summit. For me it was a mostly relaxing time hanging out with fellow alumni, with some very useful classroom time, mixed in with some intensive approaching stints. My main goal with coming to the summit this year was to continue to build on and keep a good relationship with the guys in the chat groups who regularly give me advice. I think that face-time is super important for keeping people connected, and considering how much value the people in the community have provided to me over the years, I felt that it was well worth the financial investment that coming to Korea from China costs. Speaking of costs, I managed to get a pretty good price on a Thursday night flight ticket, as well as a really inexpensive but still great quality AirBnb in the Yeoksam part of Gangnam. Friday was introduction day. I was pretty stoked, as I had already managed to home-bounce a girl I had approached at Taco Bell earlier that day. Unfortunately I couldn't overcome her "We just met" resistance, which is fair enough, considering that I knew her for less than an hour at the point of the homebounce haha. Anyway, I made sure to show up early to the summit meeting place so that I could possibly get some beforehand chat time with any alumni who were already there. It's often the casual conversations with the guys where you often get drips of gold information that can benefit your life tremendously if you pay attention. Later that night we all hit the Itaewon strip to game. Itaewon had tons of girls, but I find it very difficult to get sets to hook there, maybe because so many Korean guys are out there hunting so the girls have tougher shields up Saturday was a day filled with lots of practical lessons related to storytelling and building a Routine Stack. The storytelling class was offered by Sage, a person who I find is a very skilled not only at effective storytelling, but also at giving thoughtful compliments to girls (and his witty humor made his storytelling class as entertaining as it was useful). The Routine Stack class was powered by RedPoleQ, and I found this information particularly relevant, as I've been spending the past couple months completely revamping my Routine Stack, and during the talks that day I heard lots of great ideas that I've added to my game. We spent that night out on the Gangnam strip, and it was a great time seeing everyone out there hanging out and opening sets. I was more interested in chatting with the bros than I was in opening sets, but I somehow managed to wing McConnell and end up with an instant date bounce with our girls to a nearby bar. I definitely think that my girl was closeable, but we didn't have the luxury of time to divide and conquer the girls, since both McConnell and I had to rest up for the final day of summit. Sunday was a day filled with lots of supplementary information that guys who are intermediate pickup level and above might find useful.

Yeah, you definitely seemed to have leveled up substantially in the approaching realm, and your body language and walk is killer! Our second night out when you were sick I copied some of your persistence and high energy, and noticed it had a positive effect on all of the people I encountered ???? I think that I said the reverse. I remember saying something about how you should gesture and point at them more on the open, since I think that kind of body language is more likely to get girls hooked and standing still, since you are gesturing right at them. And from there during convo you can gesture and point at yourself when you are trying to emphasize a point. Is worth experimenting with. On that note, on that set that I had you reopen multiple times, I really liked that one move you did where you pointed at your face and gave her a big grin. I'm gonna use that ?

Great job on getting this written! hehe let's not make too many assumptions....you'd probably be surprised by the behavior supposedly keen girls will present to you over text message. But, yeah, generally if girls aren't responding to your messages, it's because your D1 wasn't as tight as it could have been. Too many negative assumptions.... Reading through your report, it seems pretty clear to me that most of your problems come from making what might be called "newb moves." Basically, you are new to pickup, and after taking your bootcamp you do some things correctly and a good amount of things incorrectly. I'd go into more detail, but it's almost 1am and I need to wake up at 7am ? I'm not sure if you watched my seminar speech (I suggest you do, I think it's pretty golden if I don't say so myself hehe), but during that speech I talked about the sacrifices that I've had to make (and continue to make) to learn pickup. Based off what you've written in the chat groups, you seem to be hoping that you would spend a couple months after bootcamp gaming, gain a LTR of some sort, and then have a girl who could hold you down during the tumultuous period you might be soon heading to as you focus on business. Seems like there is still a little more work in the pickup arena to do before you will get that LTR. Unfortunately, for most men on this planet, pickup isn't something that you can get good at in a short period of time. Like many skills, it takes constant effort and sacrifice. It's up to you to decide how much you are willing to sacrifice to level up in this skill. I definitely think that it would be a wonderful skill for you to have, as I seem to notice traces of mental/emotional weakness and self-loathing in your writing, and I think that learning pickup would give you the emotional resilience you need to handle whatever life throws at you. I'd suggest that you sit down and map out some kind of goal list for what you'd like to accomplish in life in the next 3-6 months, and then post it on this forum (my bad if you already posted it here and I didn't see it, please direct me to it if you did). Find out how you can continue to make pickup a regular part of your life. Be aware that in the short term sacrifices are likely going to need to be made. Some weeks/months you might be focusing on pickup at the expense of other things, some weeks/months you might be focusing on other things at the expense of pickup. The key is that you are aware that all of this hard work and sacrifice is leading you closer and closer to a higher-quality life. This is a journey that we are all on together, don't get discouraged because the beginning of your journey is starting off a little rocky. It took me something like 4 months to get laid after I first took the bootcamp, and that was after a good number of near-closes where I was literally minutes away from penetrating a girl but made some kind of foolish mistake. Sure, it's possible that your age could be playing some small role in girl's behavior towards you, but from what you wrote, based on your game skills, bad logisitics, not-super-positive internal monologue, misguided texting behaviors, etc.- it's pretty clear to me that there are other issues that are likely holding you back that have nothing to do with your age. Do you know the master PUA Bexter? He's somewhere in his 40s and apparently still flying around the world banging hot chicks. Not saying you need to imitate his lifestyle, but he's an example of a guy in his 40s who is doing better than most men half his age. Anyway, just be patient and keep moving forward. You will 100% see increased success when you tighten up all of the things in your game and life setup. I'll leave the detailed feedback for Martin and Kane, but let me know if you have any specific questions for me! ?

Nice! Off the top of my head, I can only remember one date I had at TaiKooLee that led to a bang, and that was when I took a milf and her daughter to a painting place called Painting Tower on the D3, and on the D4 I banged the milf hehe. A big difference between how you run your D2s and how I have run my D2s is that (1) you took her to a very well-known place (TaiKooLee) that she has likely gone before, and (2) you dropped a good amount of coin on the date, which I have learned to avoid to do because it's not efficient if you are running lots of dates....but your dropping coin maybe could have helped lead to a bang, so maybe I should re-evaluate how I do things. What places did you walk around to for an hour? I can't think of many things to walk to and see at TaiKoo Lee.... Also, I'm gonna steal your "come and help me search for foreign/Chinese movies" homebounce, because I think it's really good since I got a new TV and actually AM interested in finding good movies to watch! ?

Hey bro, I'm glad that you are doing what you said you would do and are writing field reports to get feedback. Really awesome that you are proactively working to get better, success is soon ahead ? Also good that you are going out gaming regularly! That night we went out to LKF things went fairly well, I'd say, although I think things could have gone a lot smoother and been more efficient if you had a concrete plan that you could refer to throughout the night, ESPECIALLY during those tough times where you are feeling emotionally shook up and uncertain about what your next step should be. Like I said on our last Day Game session, I think it's good for you to have a concrete idea of (1) What specific goals you want to accomplish (what kinds of sets would you like to open, what kinds of girls), (2) How you would like to reach those goals (what openers would you like to play with, do you want to approach x number of girls in a certain amount of time?), and (3) what things you AREN'T ready for yet (for example, approaching a smoking hot girl from the front, approaching in a crowded place where people can hear what you say, etc.), so that you can tell me and I will know not to push you too hard past your limits. Don't want any public meltdowns in front of hot chicks ? I have certain best practices that I have found usually work for me in Day Game and Night Game, but you will likely find that they don't fit your temperament 100%. Keep experimenting and you will find what does work for you, and don't get bummed out if the opener you wanted to test out on a certain day falls flat. It happens, just note why you think it failed and see if it's worth trying to adjust the opener or just try a new opener. It's nothing personal, everything is just experimentation and practice, and sometimes that practice leads you to sexy times with a hot girl ?

I would only feel guilty if I had lied to the girl about the relationship and fed her a fairy tale that she would be the only girl in my life forever. I'm currently working on setting better frames and expectations pre-close so that it's a better overall experience for me and the girls.

Yeah, I don't know if you followed my recommendation when I last told you, but let me repeat it: ANTHONY DE MELLO. This guy literally changed my life and pulled me out of the darkness that my life was in for my first 23 years of life. The videos and books that I would recommend most for you are (1) Rediscovery of Life, (2) Awareness, and (3) The Way to Love. Here, I'll post a link to the Rediscovery of Life recordings from youtube: Hope this helps! ^_^

666 -ShinChoc

I did a bootcamp in Chengdu with my friends The Philosopher and MadeYouLook!. In addition to my analysis, you can read The Philosopher's analysis of our boot camp: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5604 I go by the name of ShinChoc (My forum name was formerly "Chocolate"). I have been studying game since about 2009, with my first introduction to the seduction community being through Robert Greene's The Art of Seduction. I took RedPoleQ's online texting seminar back in December 2016, and then the in-person texting seminar in July 2016. If you take the texting seminar, you will be allowed access into a texting chat group where alumni members of the Asia Dating community can critique your texts and give you emergency advice when texting women. My being a part of that group, and my frequent discussions with the members of the group lead me to realize that there is a LOT about dating Asian women that I didn't know or understand. My frequent mistakes in my dating life finally pushed me to sign up for the Approach Mastery boot camp, My Chongqing friend (The Philosopher), and I messaged Kane back in January showing interest in doing a boot camp in Chengdu, and we set the date for March 17th. MadeYouLook!, an alumni member of the Asian Dating Community, was also interested in learning from Kane, so he joined us as well. Just to give you a summary of my feelings about the 3 days of boot camp: The boot camp was an AMAZING, LIFE-CHANGING experience! I learned sooooooo many mindsets and techniques from Kane, and, in the past 5 days since the boot camp ended, I seem to be on the fast-track to getting the kind of dating life that I want. I think that one of my biggest fears/triggers is the thought of being publicly embarrassed or being disrespected in front of others. That fear of public embarrassment has frequently manifested itself in situations where I had a chance to approach or talk to a girl, but I didn't take it because other people were watching me/were nearby/would be able to hear my conversation with a girl that I wanted to approach. Being around Kane, and seeing how he fearlessly approaches women while heaps of Chinese people stare at him with their mouths agape really helped to give me confidence that I could do the same thing. For example, during the Day 3 of our boot camp, we visited an underground book store. Normally I hate approaching women in these kinds of venues, because it's a relatively quiet place, and anyone within 20 feet of you can probably hear your conversation if you are talking normally. Compared to all of the previous venues where we had approached at in the past two days, I was very nervous about approaching in such an area where you are visible and hearable by everyone in ear-shot. I watched in amazement as Kane fearlessly approached a group of 3 Chinese girls by loudly and confidently telling them that he was approaching them because one of the girls had looked at him. I played wingman and handled the other two girls while Kane handled his target, Kane later gave me an idea to carry around a Chinese art book (I love art) and open girls by asking them for help understanding one of the Chinese characters in it. It was a very relieving experience to know that I could effectively approach women inside of a place that has the kinds of women that I tend to like (Chinese girls who like to read ). The previous day, Kane had us do this "photo bomb" approach, where we basically ran up and jumped in the photos that girls were taking in front of these statues. It was very embarrassing for me, and I was noticeably awkward at it, but the interesting thing is that nobody really cared. I mean, you would think a bunch of foreigners photo-bombing cute Chinese girls taking pictures would draw a big reaction from passerby, but honestly most people didn't really seem to concerned with what were were doing, and those who were quickly lost interest looking at us after 30 seconds or so. The was pretty much the pattern throughout the entire boot camp: the people around us who may have been watching us approach girls gave us their attention for maybe 1 minute, and then after that they resumed doing whatever it was they were doing before they saw us. So, basically, there wasn't much reason to be embarrassed, because the people who I could be embarrassed in front of weren't really paying me any mind. Anyway, besides gaining more confidence approaching girls in front of others, I also got some experience keeping my sets open for longer periods of time. By that I mean that, with Kane's pushing, I kept persisting in situations in interactions with girls where I would have normally given up or ended the interaction. In the beginning, I felt a lot of the sets that I opened were very awkward, because I was very nervous, and when I am nervous I tend to talk a lot. Like, a part of me feared the girls that I approached would walk away if I don't keep talking, so I tended to overload them with information to the point where they didn't know how or what to respond to. That's a problem that I'm working on fixing. The good thing is that even sets that I thought went "badly" or that I thought were really painful to persist through, nothing bad happened. Like, the worst thing that happened was that a few of the girls who I had gotten the WeChat information of deleted me, but I ended up getting the WeChat info of so many women that I don't really care so much about the women who didn't want to continue communicating with me. And that's one of the best things that I got from the boot camp. I used to do a lot of online (Tantan) game to try to meet women because I was too lazy to go out and approach. Now that I have the skills that the boot camp taught me, it will be a LOT easier for me to go out and will up my pipeline of women that I have in my life. Rather than messaging girls on Tantan for weeks just to get a meeting with them, and then realizing when I meet them that they don't look like their profile picture, I can just approach the women I like in-person and have things progress a lot faster. I deleted Tantan and Tinder off my phone last night I'll just give a brief run-through of some of the other things that I learned: (1) I should open Girls in Chinese- I was surprised by how many girls I approached spoke fluent English. Anyway, my Chinese has gotten pretty good, and opening in Chinese can be really beneficial to help overcome the "first-minute resistance" that some girls feel when being approached (2) Eliminate my negative assumptions- My brain sometimes like to assume negative things about people, and when it comes to women, I would sometimes assume that I would be "bothering" them if I approach them. Not true. If you approach girls in a fun and non-threatening way, most of them will be happy that they interacted with you (3) Get more sexual with women to test their resistances- This is possibly the biggest thing that I've learned. I often made the mistake of waiting until I am in the sex location with a girl before I try to get sexual with her. Bad idea. It is a much smarter idea to get as physical with a girl as you can (anything besides kissing her or fingering her in public) to see what possible resistances she has to you. That way things will be a lot smoother when you actually do try to close her, and she won't be so caught off guard by your sexual attempt. In conclusion, this bootcamp has changed my life for the better. I only wish that I had known what I know now a year ago! Things would have been SOOOO much easier, and I wouldn't have missed out on so many hot women. Anyway, now I am in the right position and have the right mindset to fully enjoy all of the beautiful Asian women around me. There's a LOT more fun that I'm gonna have, and I'll keep you guys posted on my future adventures! -ShinChoc

Awesome post! It was a very fun and enlightening experience doing a bootcamp with you, and I think that we both helped to push each other through the more difficult situations. Let's keep leveling up! -ShinChoc