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  1. I also don't like it when girls shave down there. I prefer waxed or lasered — perfectly smooth and no stubble!
    3 points
  2. Pre Boot Camp Six years ago I decided to pack up everything and leave Sydney. In search of a new adventure in Beijing. I attended BLCU and studied Chinese like many foreigners do when first arriving in China. In my first few days at the university, I met a guy from South Africa who had read a few books about the game and seemed to be very popular with the ladies. The first night we went out together I watched him close a solid 8 from Wu Club (for anyone is ever in Beijing Wu Club is a great place to meet university students who are looking for a good time, at least this is how it was two years ago, maybe things have changed since then). Watching my new friend found close this girl so quickly inspired me to start making some drastic changes in my life to start improving how women perceived me and my relationships with women. I had always been very overweight, and this had always been an issue for me in terms of meeting girls as it affected my self-confidence. I joined the gym, improved my fashion and read the book “The Game”. These few small changes had a huge effect on my life, and I started to pull fairly hot girls quite regularly. I was going out to clubs 3-4 times a week in both Wudaokou and Sanlitun; however, I rarely played day game. Three years ago I moved to Shanghai for a work opportunity, and a friend of mine recommended I join ‘The Shanghai Shaggers’ wechat group as a way to meet friends in a new city. I started going out with some of the guys in the group to a club called ‘The Apartment’, I was very impressed with the skills these guys had and quickly found out they had all been trained by Kane. At this point, I had banged more than 200 girls, and even though I wanted to do a boot camp with Kane, I couldn’t justify it, as I believed I was already good enough at pick up and didn’t need it (later I would find out how wrong I was). After breaking up with the hottest girl I ever dated I was finding it difficult again to approach girls, at this point, I decided to bite the bullet and contact Kane to register for a boot camp. Boot Camp Day One - Night Game at Lebaron I had played a lot of club game over the years; however, I had never done it without drinking. When Kane told me that drinking was not allowed on the boot camp, I was a little nervous, to be honest. As we had dinner together at the Shanghai Brewery, Kane asked me a lot of questions about the types of girls I was into and what exactly I was looking for in a girl. Some of these questions were difficult to answer, as I had never really put much thought into it. Once we had established what I was looking for Kane helped me to develop some questions that would allow me to qualify the girls that I would like. We went into Lebaron early, and Kane ran me through step by step what I was going to do when we started opening girls. The first set of the night I approached the girl, (tap tap) ‘happy birthday.’ I put my hand out hoping to spin her, and she just looked at me and turned away. My body language was off, I wasn’t smiling enough, and my energy was low, Kane showed me what I was doing wrong. We continued opening sets for the next two hours, and I could feel that I was improving set by set. The main point I was focusing on was kino, body language (leaning forward too much) and staying in set longer. My final set of the night was a Taiwanese babe (at least an 8), in this particular set I focused on the energy of my open, consistent kino and stayed in the set for at least 20 - 30 minutes. At about the 20-minute point she said let's have a shot together, but as it was a dry boot camp, I had to say no. I explained to her that I’m training for a running race and can’t drink, that was fairly well received. At about the 30-minute point Kane came in and told me it’s time to leave, and I could add her Wechat. When we got outside Kane told me the reason he allowed me to add the wechat is because of I of how much I had improved over the session and that he could tell I really liked her. What I did well: Approached girls without being drunk, improved kino over the session, stopped leaning forward so much, became much more animated in my opens and gamed a girl that meets my standards. Improvements needed: Engage obstacles effectively, use my wing more, lean back and have more in-depth conversations. Realizations: Hot girls are just as easy as ugly girls. Day Two - Day Game at People's Square Day two started off with lunch at Peoples Square. Kane asked me to think off a few different date routines that I wanted to use in the future. Later on that, I was going to seed these locations or activities for future dates. The first step I just stop girls on the street, hold them there and ride out the awkwardness. After doing this a few times, we moved on to stage two, which was to stop girls and ask for directions to Starbucks, or the local pet shop to buy cat socks. Two university students I opened on Nanjing Road offered to walk with me to Starbucks which gave me some time to work some of my routines on them, I was able to Wechat close but couldn’t get her to agree to a time bridge. I continued to open all afternoon; I must have opened 15 plus sets. I wasn’t super happy with the quality of the girls around people square. However, there was a good flow of traffic which allowed me to practice day game opening. What I did well: Wechat closed 5 girls, used good body language, and qualified all sets and good BT spikes. Improvements needed: Don't miss any sets because I’m feeling nervous, use different material, and approach girls I like, use more kino and have a better stance in the set. Realizations: Day game is possible; I like night game better than day game, and day game can be an everyday activity. Day Two - Night Game at Lebaron By the time we arrived at Lebaron for the second night, I was starting to feel really tired. The last two sessions had really taken its toll on me both mentally and physically, so I loaded up on caffeine and started the session. Kane taught me how to sexualize inset using the Strawberry Farm question game with girls. I tried using this in set a few times throughout the night, however, didn’t really have any success using this content. I think the reason it wasn’t working is I was trying to deliver this content in Chinese and was able to deliver it confidently. About halfway through the session, I opened a girl from Inner Mongolia (I really like girls from this area of China); I was in the set and doing very well. My Kino was strong and consistent; I could tell she was really enjoying interacting with me. I got her Wechat and came back over to Kane at this point I’d been in the set for about 10 minutes, Kane asked me why I had left the set and made me go back to talk to her again. I really didn’t want to go back and reopen the set; I was feeling nervous about reopening a set. Kane said to me “it’s just a girl, what are you scared of?” So I went back in reopened her and continued talking to her for the next 20 minutes. I was pleased went back into the set as when she was leaving the club she came over and gave me a big hug and agreed to meet me the following week. What I did well: stayed in set for longer, wechat closed three girls, approached every set Kane told me to open, independently open sets and stronger kino. Improvements needed: be more expressive on the open, smile more in the club and engage the entire set. Realizations: Be fun when interacting with girls and speak slower. Day Three - Day Game in Xintiandi The first task Kane gave me was to think of what were the most significant achievements of my life, my biggest failures and some of my biggest learning experiences. After telling Kane about these points, he helped me build a story routine for deep comfort. After we finished lunch, we went outside, and Kane said to me that the goal of the day is to go on an instant date. When he mentioned this, I was feeling really worried as I doubted I’d be able to do this. On my second set of the day, I saw a really hot girl walk down one of the alleys to take photos. I went up to her and asked how to how to get to Starbucks, and she offered to walk me there. As we started walking together everything Kane had taught me over the past three days was coming together, and my routines were working so well, it felt like I had a superpower. I established that she had one hour until she was meeting her friend for dinner, so I suggested we walk together around the area. It was working; I was on an instant date! As we walked together, I started to run the deep comfort routines on her, after I finished the story she offered to buy me a coffee at a nearby cafe. We sat down, and I started to ask her lots of hypothetical questions, for example, “if you could go to the airport tonight and fly anywhere in the world, where would you go and why? Would you buy presents for your friends? What would you buy? We sat together chatting for about 40 minutes, and then she needed to go and met her friend for dinner, so I got her wechat and time bridged her for a future meet. Kane came back over and told me that I had already completed today’s goal on the second set of the day. We continued walking around, and opening sets all afternoon, and I was wechat closing a lot of different hot girls, Xintiandi is a great place to go on a Sunday afternoon. We finished off the boot camp with dinner together at a Mexican place, and Kane helped me to sum up the weekend and what was going to be the plan moving forward. That was it the boot camp was over and I was feeling great! Anyone who is thinking about doing a boot camp with Kane, I’d highly recommend it, he is a great guy and these three days of training will change your life forever. What I did well: Open the hottest girls of the weekend, Wechat closed most sets, went on an instant date, used my story in sets, lead interactions well and good conversations. Improvements needed: Be more proactive, body language, smile more and eye contact. Realizations: Taptap is risky in day game, Xintiandi is great and instant dates are possible.
    3 points
  3. Hi Everyone, I took my bootcamp last weekend 3/29-3/31. I took it mostly because @Ditto had a good experience and really, really wanted me to do it. I was reluctant to do so, but as someone who never had success with women, I knew it would be a good experience for me. I was the only one who took the bootcamp that weekend, so RPQ was able to focus a lot on me. Night 1: We met at Roppongi station and went over to the hub to begin the boot camp. I was the only one attending the boot camp that weekend, so RPQ was able to focus most of his attention on me. For my first approaches, RPQ had me focus on openers and pointed at a table with a 3 set. I knocked on the table and did the "Guess where I'm from" act. My biggest problems in this set were that I did everything wrong excluding knocking on the table and arguable that could have been done better too. My posture was terrible; I fiddled with buttons on my shirt, leaned in, and did weird things with my foot. The second set I opened was standing at a nearby table. I think it was 2 set and I opened the same way. After opening, I ran out of things to say and ejected because I had little social skills and didn't know what to say. I opened from a weird position and soon after learned that positioning was an important consideration. After opening a few more sets at the hub, some ignored my approaches, so I immediately ejected, while others ended because I didn't know what to do past my openers. After doing four or five approaches at the hub, we went over to Alife. At Alife, I got blown out by a bunch of sets. I learned how to better position myself when sets are walking. I also began to be more persistent, and not walking away with my tail between my legs immediately after opening. I got thicker skin about getting blown out or having sets walk away. I got a little better about opening and transitioning into the qualification stage and sustaining the conversation. The last set I opened that night was a 2 set and I brought in @Ditto as my wingman after opening. RPQ helped guide me through when I started running out of things to say. Eventually, we offered to buy them drinks and kept talking for half an hour or so. RPQ advised me to line close and time bridge, which she agreed to, to my surprise. By the end of the night, my posture was significantly better, and I stopped fiddling or doing weird things with my feet. Day 1: We met at Roppongi station again and started walking around the shopping area. I started off with some warm-up sets, which involved just getting instantly blown out. RPQ told me to approach more naturally and not straight on. My next approach was holding a pink umbrella, so RPQ changed my opener to be about her umbrella. I went over for the approach, said "Your umbrella is so pink, where can I get one" and went into figuring out her plans for the day and who she was meeting. She said she was meeting her friends at the Starbucks right now, so I ejected like a bitch, and did something weird like shake her hand. She went into the Starbucks and left a few moments later, so RPQ told me to re-open her. I looked at him like a madman and did it anyway. She was pretty keen to begin with, so I talked to her for a bit, moved through the qualification stage and RPQ gave me pointers from the side. Eventually we bounced from outside into the Starbucks, where she said she had to go after a few minutes. I ask for her line and she asked if I wanted to meet for lunch, which I obviously agreed to. After that, RPQ had me open a single set sitting down. I opened her and didn't ask what she was here for and for how long, which caused problems later. Turns out she was waiting for her boyfriend who was in a job interview. She kept glancing over at him, but I didn't have any awareness and was spending all my time just focusing on the conversation. Eventually after of couple minutes, her boyfriend walked in, to which I just switched the conversation over to him for a little bit, then ejected. We walked down to another area and I opened a set in the bookstore. After opening, she didn't really seem to understand much. I tried for a couple minutes, then ejected. I was kind of a bitch for the rest of the day, with either weak open attempts, or ejecting earlier than I should have. Night 2: We went over to Alife again. I opened a girl behind us in line, who was going to meet friends inside. After a weak open, and jumping into qualification too quickly, she walked away. The rest of the night was pretty rough. After my first few warm ups, my openers were much stronger, but I was getting blown out one after another. I approached a single set sitting alone at a table, but she understood very little English. It went well, but I ejected prematurely and forgot to go for the line close. A few moments later, another couple of guys tried to open her and started harassing her, so I stepped in and pulled her away from them. Being stupid, I didn't think of re-opening and continuing the sarge, so she left. After that set, I got blown out a couple more times, or my set got pulled away by a friend who was far away. Eventually, there was a drunk or crazy two set, that someone else had opened, so RPQ told me to go in as a wingman. After a few minutes, the other guy left and I brought in @Ditto as my wingman. The sarge went on for several minutes, but my target understood very little English and I was struggling to keep up a conversation. She started wanting to leave, so I eventually ejected. After that one, there was another two set that I opened decently and brought in a wingman. RPQ helped reposition me to isolate the target better. The qualification stage went poorly and I started running out of things to say. I also didn't keep BT Spiking, so she eventually left. There were a lot of larger sets that night, so I was having a hard time opening without getting blown out. After a couple more poorly run sarges and blow outs, the night ended. Day 2: We met in Meguro for the second day. Since it was Cherry blossom season, there were a lot of people out. RPQ advised me to use food as an opener, which worked really well. My first set was a typical warm up flop. I opened her asking about her food, and tried a few more BT spikes, but she wasn't understanding and then I bitched out as per usual. I opened up a two set after that, asking about their food and where they got it from, they even offered me a piece, so I took it. I brought RPQ in as a wingman and talked to the target about travelling for a while. Eventually LINE closed her and ejected after. The next approach was a two set sitting on the wall. I got through the open and asked them what they were doing. They said they were waiting for their Starbucks drink. I brought in @Ditto at this point and we took a seat next to them. I talked to the target for 10 minutes, but after struggling to get past the language barrier, I ejected. The next set was walking by herself, so I opened her then asked what she was doing. She said her friends were in the new Starbucks, but wasn't able to get in, so she was waiting for them to come back out. I became retarded at this point and randomly ejected after my mind went blank. A few minutes later, she was walking around, so RPQ had me re-open and ask for her LINE. I got her LINE, but didn't think about progressing the sarge and left again without trying to bounce her to a cafe, while she waited for her friends. We saw her again, and RPQ had me re-open a third time to ask her if she wanted to go to a cafe. At this point I was starting to get a little meek, so my approach was weak and she just said no. After that there was a two set sitting down. I brought in @Ditto and we talked for about 10 or 15 minute, but I had problems communicating with my target, so eventually ejected. The last set that day was a two set taking a lot of pictures. I opened saying just that and told them we should take a picture together. We took a couple pictures and I brought in my wingman. We took another picture, but had some problems isolating our girls because our positioning was a little weird afterwards. Eventually, we isolated our targets and ended with a LINE close and time bridge. Reflecting back on it, the bootcamp was a great experience and I'd recommend it to anyone. It's daunting at first and the anxiety from approaching didn't go away by the end of the bootcamp, but approaching women doesn't feel like an impossible task anymore. Previously, I never imagine it would be that easy to get a date. I could just walk up to a girl, start talking to her, and not only get her number but time bridge also. That's an incredible realization. The fact that I could do that just after a couple of days and with only the most minor amount game is mind blowing.
    3 points
  4. Review of RedpoleQ's Text Seminar I first took the Text Seminar sometime in 2017, if I remember correctly. RPQ revamped it recently and I was able to attend that as well. The principles taught in RedpoleQ’s Text Seminar will challenge your perceptions, but if well practiced you will ultimately be armed to take on the toughest challenges when texting girls. Like playing chess where one has only pawns to start with. The best part is the Text Chat, which is a great learning environment and like my personal Texting 911. The uncanny thing about the chat is that after hundreds of situations and emergency cases I asked for helped over the course of a year, like sending the wrong thing to the wrong girl, getting girls out where it seemed highly improbable, or a reg wanting to break up suddenly, the number of cases where the advice didn’t work was exactly zero. And then I look back at all the other guys asking for help and their cases. Same thing. It’s almost freakish.
    3 points
  5. Not sure if there's many active guys here on the Forum these days but maybe I can kickstart some activity! Over 30 days I'm working on my solo game in Seoul. Right now I'm in a LTR but seriously miss the rush of opening, getting a girl's number etc (despite having high AA)! For me, overcoming something that makes you feel internally uncomfortable like AA or public speaking and then releasing that energy is an amazing feeling and something you can look back on your deathbed and be proud that you did it. I'm also rusty AF, slightly out of shape physically, and just not very socially calibrated after two years of COVID, building an online business by myself in mad professor mode, a long-term relationship, and losing way too much in crypto last month. Getting out there, hitting the streets, and talking to girls seems like the perfect fix for most of those problems I mention. DAY 1 Arrive in Seoul in the morning. Check into my hotel and go outside. Already nervous AF about opening! Already wondering if I can really start this challenge. But almost right away -- as I'm crossing the road -- I see a college girl limping on crutches and moving far too slow to cross before the lights change. As the only other person nearby, she looks desperately at me for help. I go over and help support her right arm as we cross the road. She explains in broken English that she's still not accustomed to using crutches yet. She's not particularly attractive and I'm still feeling nervous, so I didn't end up pushing the interaction. But I thought it was a good omen and helped release my nerves. Continue walking around Sinchon for 20 mins looking for an easy target to open. Eventually I pass a cute girl who makes slight eye contact with me. Maybe I saw this girl earlier too? I spin around, chase her down, and ask her slowly in English if I'd just seen her outside a noodle restaurant. She shook her head 😂 . I then asked if she spoke English, she said "Sorry" and then I ejected after saying a few words that didn't progress the interaction. Thoughts: While the overall interaction was piss poor, I did a little fist pump as soon as she was out of sight --I just knocked off the first day of my challenge! I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've attempted opening during the day in Korea! So it was a small win versus me and AA. DAY 2 Again I spend like 20 mins looking for a girl to approach, but this time at dinner time. Not a lot of foot traffic tonight. Eventually I see a college girl by herself and she's walking quickly in the direction of the university. I chase her up a hill towards Yonsei University after power-walking for well over 100 meters. At the traffic lights I turn to her and say in English, "Hey you walk really fast" and I did a little body language too with my arms. She took off her air pods so I had to do the whole opener again but she chuckled. I asked if she spoke English and she said "a little". We interact for about 30 seconds, establish she's a student and on her way to an evening lecture before she has to go catch her bus. I made no effort to number close her. Thoughts: Definitely got further in terms of conversation than the previous day. The opener seemed to work. However, instead of walking behind her for 100 meters, I should have jogged so I could get alongside her earlier and had more time to talk to her. I think I'm using the "Do you speak English" line as a crutch when I don't know what to say next, which doesn't actually get me anywhere. While I found out her logistics, I didn't really connect with her in any meaningful way to warrant the interaction going any further. DAY 3 Moved to Myeongdong as there's cheap accommodation here. On the way here, I freak out when I see another of my crypto investments get crushed! Fuck. Spend most of the day watching Seinfeld on Netflix as an escape but then remember at 9:30pm that I haven't done my approach homework. I really don't feel like it, but I get myself out of bed and dressed up. I putt around Myeongdong for 15 minutes but it's like moving around trying catch lightning in a bottle. There's barely any girls around (especially my default target of 1-sets). Eventually I see a girl in tight jeans with a great ass waiting for street food. I park myself next to her and ask if she's lining up. She responds in perfect English, so I'm surprised. However, she's not as hot from the front as I hoped. Turns out she's from Singapore and working remotely for a few weeks in Seoul. We chat for 5 minutes and then I walk towards her hotel before I initiate adding her Kakao. On the way back to my hotel I go to a convenience store and notice the girl working there is Chinese. I talk to her in Chinese and she's pretty excited to talk to me but she wasn't that hot, so I didn't ask for her contact details. Thoughts: Talking to the Singapore girl was easy and she introduced me to a website for booking long-term hotel stays in Korea which is better value for money than AirBNB. So I was super happy that I dragged my ass out of bed and bumped into her. Having said that, I could have pushed things further by first taking her to a convenience store and then asking to see her hotel, which she booked on this website she recommended. At the time, I didn't think of this at all. I only realized later that I could have at tried to take the interaction slightly further. DAY 3 In the morning I go back to the same convenience store as the night before. This time there's a different Chinese girl working there. She's cuter and again excited to speak Chinese with me. Before I leave, she says "So happy to meet you" at which point I stop in my tracks, turn around, and get her WeChat. She's very young, maybe 20. Her social media pics look super cute -- in real life she's cute but jaw-dropping hot. We chat on WeChat straight away while she's supposed to be working and organize a coffee date after her exams the following week. That afternoon I approach a fairly unattractive girl with a hat and a facemask covering most of her face. My opener was to ask for directions but she ignores me so I eject after two failed attempts. Thoughts: Nice to add the convenience store part to my game. My verbal delivery and frame with the unattractive girl on the street should have been more confident, I made it too easy for her to ignore me. DAY 4 Went out quite late this time (10pm) and really struggling for foot traffic around Myeongdong. Eventually find a bus stop with a bunch of girls waiting for their bus. It takes me several minutes to work up the courage to open a really cute college girl. I open by speaking in Korean and asking her if she feels cold and then gesture to give her my blazer. Her reaction to the opener is fine and she takes off her earphones and turns around to talk to me. Predictably, I ask if she speaks English? As soon as I say this, I know I'm not going anywhere. D'OH!! She says not really and then I disappear into the night! haha Thoughts: Definitely the hottest girl I've approached so far and the opener worked fine. But it's clear that I really don't have much to say to these girls beyond the situational opener. I'm failing to progress the dialogue and not mentioning my agenda at all. So I've got some work there to do. DAY 4 Dinner time I look for some targets around Myeongdong. Eventually see a Korean girl walking ultra slow so I quickly chase her down and make an effort this time to speak in (broken) Korean. I initially scare her a little but then her face looks happy to be talking to me. I make an observation that she is on her way to eat Chimaek with her friends but it must have come out as me saying I was going to meet my friends for chimaek. I then ask her in Korean if she speaks English and she says no and then I eject after wishing her a fun night. Thoughts: I enjoyed this opener. It was the first time a Korean girl looked genuinely pleased or intrigued that I opened her. Unfortunately I got super nervous speaking in Korean and gave up too early. She was walking super slow, so I had plenty of time and she seemed captive to what I had to say. But again, I lack much substance beyond the initial opener. DAY 5 In the afternoon I walk around Myeongdong and this time there's heaps of girls walking around (so daytime is definitely better than late at night). I see a cute girl with a blue face mask and straight away I know she's not a local based on her face mask. Koreans never wear the blue surgical mask. I chase her down over a block and then ask her if she's from China as we walk side by side. She takes her air pods off and again I have to repeat myself. She is surprised that I speak Chinese. She's a college student in Seoul and we chat for 5 minutes as we continue walking. Although we chat and I am leading the conversation, at no stage do I feel like I've completely hooked her. I get her WeChat but I don't really have a good pretext for getting her contact details. Anyway, we add each other. Later I notice that her WeChat profile picture is an average looking college guy (probably also from China) and her moments make it look pretty clear that she has a BF. I still message her but she says sorry, her BF thinks its not convenient to talk. Thoughts: Speaking in Chinese comes more natural to me than speaking English for some reason. But I need to improve the lead-up to getting a girl's contact details and even seed a reason to start a chat with her later, like mentioning an anime or a funny youtube video etc to which I can send a link for later. DAY 6 Relocate in the morning to Sinchon after feeling pretty disappointed with the quality and quantity of girls in Myeondong. During my first lunch here I go to a noodle bar and sit a few seats away from two college-age Korean girls. Super cute! I eat my noodles while trying to understand their conversation. Then they start talking about learning English and they say a few set phrases in English as one was explaining to the other the meaning. At this stage I want to jump in but there's another person sitting in between us. So I get up and get a second cup of water (even though I already have one full glass). The next time they use an English phrase I compliment them from behind about their English pronunciation being really good. Their reaction was a little bit surprised because I was standing behind them and my voice came out of nowhere. They shyly said thank you but based on the awkward start I excuse myself and return to my seat. In the afternoon I go to a coffee shop full of college girls studying. One girl sat next to me while I was there and it was obvious that she wanted to talk to me. We chatted and she gave me a bag of candy, random I know, lol. Her English wasn't that good but we chatted a little bit in Korean, Japanese, and English. But then she mentions she has a BF in the UK and he hasn't answered her message because he's asleep. That threw me off a bit about mentioning her BF. She was small and slim but not all that hot and there seemed something a little bit off about her so I didn't even ask for her Kakao. I'm not exactly sure what her intentions were, but hey, got some free candy!! Reflection: Today was good because I found a cafe and a noodle bar that will increase my surface area for bumping into girls without only having to prowl the streets looking for a target. My approach in the noodle bar was weak, though. I need to back myself more to get past the awkwardness and progress the interaction. DAY 7 Back at the noodle bar. This time there's a very attractive Asian girl sitting alone but she doesn't seem Korean. I sit two seats away from her and eventually I ask her if she's Chinese. She quite emphatically says OMG Yes! How did you know? in a Cali girl accent. She was born in China but grew up in America. We have a good chat but towards the end of the interaction she asks how I knew she was Chinese. My answer was "Oh well, Korean girls don't usually have lunch by themselves," which was my actual line of thinking. I have noticed this, especially among hot girls. Now, as you might imagine, this came across as a neg and she didn't particularly like it but we got past it and I changed the topic. A minute or two later she gets up to go to class. Before she goes, she asks me how long I'm in town for and then I ask to get her WeChat. She says she doesn't check WeChat regularly but she suggests Instagram. I ask her ID, but she then asks for my ID, and she then proceeds to follow me. Reflection: I liked this girl and I'm looking forward to lining up a coffee or something with her. The way she asked "How long are you in town for" was a nice transition in to next exchanging contact details -- as I honestly was struggling to manouver to that point. What she said was so simple but I'm so socially inept right now, it would never have occurred to me. So I will have to bookmark that line. Also, I don't know, maybe I should have mentioned grabbing a coffee someday or seeded a D2 before she left? DAY 8 The American Chinese girl from the day before unfollowed me before I got around to following her and sending her a message. Now have no way of contacting her! Fuck... I should have made an effort on the same day I met her. Also wondering if my Instagram is particularly bad or whether that accidental neg came back to hurt me. Will never know I guess! Frustrating but live and learn. If I see her at the noodle bar again, what angle should I take? Joke about her unfollowing me or just ignore that it ever happened? I didn't end up opening today. Partly cos I had other plans and time got away from me with other stuff. I broke my daily streak but I'm still happy with my progress so far. I'm getting past my AA which is good. But, I still have a long way to go in properly engaging Korean girls and my Korean speaking also needs a lot of work. I probably need to plan more past the opener in terms of what I want to say and I rely too much on asking the girl questions rather than monologing or at least making assumptions about her and what she's doing. I also realize that I need to up my daily approaches to about 5-10 rather than my customary one. Easier said than done. I think I still have a lot of AA to get past in order to hit that daily number. But I know it's what I need to do next. More reps is also more practice, which is what I need right now.
    2 points
  6. You don't need a TEFL course to teach English in Asia, you just need a Uni degree. That's the minimum requirement. If you have a Master's then you could potentially teach at a Uni. What really matters is the country you want to go to. Seoul, South Korea has one of the best pickup communities but it's notoriously difficult there. Japan is a good midway, not nearly as difficult, really quality women, and nice lifestyle. But it's expensive and the community there isn't so great, so you'd often be picking up alone. Shanghai and Chengdu, China are pretty good. Nice quality women, low expensese, good community. But you have to have a certain fortitude to handle mainland China. Taipei, Taiwan is ok if you want primarily one night stands, but like Japan, the community isn't that great for pickup. So I'd boil it down to where you want to go. Weigh the pros and cons of each place, or you can also ask our opinion and we'll give you our feedback. Japan and Seoul need the highest initial savings and the highest quality of life. Seoul needs more upfront money but isn't so expensive over the longterm while Japan is more expensive overall. China is the best option on a tight budget. I didn't mention Southeast Asia which aren't bad choices either, if you care more about lifestyle and climate and want the women to be more receptive to your advances.
    2 points
  7. Congrats bro, and welcome! The most important next step here is follow-up — make sure you keep up the habit of doing approaches after your bootcamp, every single day if possible, especially for the first 30-60 days. Set a quota, whether it's 5 approaches a day, 3 approaches a day, or even 2 or 1 approaches a day — most important thing is building the habit. It's hard to do and takes will-power, but if you do this immediately following your bootcamp, it will lock in all the lessons you learned throughout the weekend. Guys who don't do this will typically wind up 3-6 months later in basically the same place as they started, except with a distant memory of this one weekend where they temporarily had the ability to approach girls ? So to make sure you get the best value out of the training, make sure you're diligent about putting a follow-up daily approach program in place. It's hard (having a friend to do it with helps immensely), but this is the best gift you can give yourself of the future!
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  8. Actually it is good that yoga88 requires super low maintenance so I do not use up a lot of money and time and also could easily slide in some other girl too. Just gotta figure out when...best ASAP kkk!
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  9. Sun 17 Feb ShinChoc and his french club promoter guy, as well as Limonaide and co. wanted to do some night game. We met at Playhouse at 11 or 12, moved to the area with all the clubs we visited during the sex seminar This was about half a week ago before I turned into a mess of phlegm and pain, I'm pretty sure I forgot a lot of the decent sets I had Playhouse I believe Limonaide and co. arrived first and we went in to open some before ShinChoc arrived. Limonaide wants me to open a set (thanks for keeping me always going man), and it looks like a 2 set, 3 or 4 minutes at the coat check probably. Handshakes and spins, bring in Limonaide quickly. FORGOT LOGISTICS DISCOVERY. My girl wechat closes me. We go in and I feel weird dancing again so I go open some sets that are dancing on the tall bench things, most don't really hook or I realize that upon her turning around, I'd rather pursue other sets. Might have had a couple decent opens on the dancefloor, I don't remember ShinChoc arrives and we go outside to talk a bit. He was the one who actually got me to do a dancing open during the sex seminar, and was pretty much my inspiration for my silly dance opens haha. Silly open a set or two. I find the 2 set from earlier, it's actually a 3 (5?) set with their friends, a couple, wandering in and out. My girl waves, I come back into set and proceed with the goofy dancing. Tonight there are actually a lot of drops in volume in the music, sometimes for effect, sometimes because they want to pretend everyone's singing even though the place isn't nearly that packed. I can actually hear her "you're really good at dancing!" I almost lose it laughing. Big body language and no regard for other peoples' opinions is apparently enough of an attraction trigger to seem good at dancing ?. Limonaide reopens his girl, Danny wants me to introduce him to the other girl (the one with the boyfriend, not the other single one, it was a weird situation or I hadn't understood the set yet) I yelled, "this is my other brother" and then pushed them both towards each other (this is in a line formation so it doesn't cut anyone off really Stay in this set 45 minutes to 1 hour+. Got a lot of IOI's from other girls during this set but I wanted to run it long. Danny comes up to me to suggest I isolate after probably 10 or 15 minutes. Right. I ask my girl if she wants to go somewhere we can hear better. I'm sweating so she thinks it's probably a good idea. We go to the bar and I get a water, I think I just ask for 2 without thinking and give her one haha. Limonaide and his friend come in with their respective girls (the other 2 single ones from the set.) Limonaide positions perfectly, his girl back to back with mine. I start with some small talk and that was fun and answering comfort questions while I wrack my brain trying to remember what my routine stack is. Decide to throw in some more DHV's because why not. She mentions a couple times that she's really attracted to me, I alternate between "I know" and "that's good, I like you too." She wants to try skydiving, don't know what other qualification I did. She kept asking to take pictures with me, and took some pictures of me dancing. I know now this is for her vlog (I assume this is fine right? As long as I don't set unrealistic expectations about being bf/gf?). Seed her visiting me in California, cat cafes, park on top of the mall. She asks how many girlfriends I have. 43. WHAT. Yeah! No just kidding none right now. After this I work in how I only like girls who like me, that all 3 of my long term girlfriends slept with me on the first or second date. A little while later she mentions how her last boyfriend cheated and that's why she's at the club. I say that's not okay, you have to at least be honest. Relationships are only good if everyone is keeping each other happy and they care for each other. (Is there a better response to this?) At a few points she talks about how cute she thinks some of the girls are, I try to encourage this. Asking which ones, nodding approvingly, and giving all the smiles and nice's I could. She wants to go dance some more, okay. They tell us 15 minutes before they're leaving at 2, I walk them out. Leading or pushing(directing) my girl if she gets ahead, though I should just lead harder instead of letting them discuss directions to escape the noise box. I take the time going to coat check to make a good last memory, and time bridge cat cafe on Wednesday. She was pretty kino compliant d1 even though I tried to keep from escalating too fast. I was thinking that I didn't want to trigger resistance when I was still adjusting to the environment and getting back into game. I started with the hands and arms, tickled her exposed sides and back sometimes, stuck some tissue paper I caught in the front of her pants, slid my hand up the back of her shirt once, but most kino was on the arms and when getting her to do a silly dance with me. Oh I guess I did spank her at one point, I must really have a thing for that ? Opened a decent amount more sets I think but none were super memorable, one time guys got up in my face and tried putting hands on me pushing my arms down (they couldn't they were either weak of body or spirit) while I tried to ask what the flashing pacifier shaped like a cat was in this one girl's mouth. After about a minute of this and a translation from Limonaide, I smiled and waved bye bye to the pacifier girl. Not sure if these guys were just drunk and belligerent, but even most of the guys who handle guys talking to their girls poorly handle it better than that haha. Or maybe they had seen me going around encroaching on peoples' table space? 5-15 mins. Open one 3 set dancing on a podium by jumping on the outside and pretending I am going to fall. I reach out, save me! Very little reaction. I laugh and say if they don't help me I'll be in trouble, not that they hear it. After a bit of determination I motion I'm coming inside, they let me. I push one like a klutz but more or less recover by helping her back up. I scoot them all over a bit since everyone's sitting on the railing. 3rd girl leaves, she's the one who doesn't want to have anything to do with guys opening her, how do these girls reproduce lol. Okay but seriously how do I open girls like these? Do you just open really softly, or maybe it has to seem a lot more natural? I just smile. Wing doesn't want to come in so I just run the set a while. Compliment one girl's choker. The other ones dress or something. They are both okay attractive and I can't decide, and in my late night mind I just decide to give both attention. At first they seem to feel awkward when I "switch targets" but then after a minute or two they're both smiling a lot and really enjoying it. I know this is only attraction but I wonder if you can keep that up haha. I decide to get more practice and eject. I kiss the hands of the two girls still there and wave goodbyes. Botch a couple opens, ShinChoc, Limonaide, and their friends are not in set either anymore, I ask if they want to head out. Sure. Jump back up and reopen the 3 set again because I thought it'd be better than walking by them. Third girl is back, unhappy lol. A guy turns around, forget what he does but doesn't like me there. Smile at him. Motion to see if ShinChoc wants to join. No. Take the 2 girls hands, shake, deep bow, offer hand to third girl, she moves her hands away before I can even get close. I make an "I didn't need you anyway" face and wave my hand between us. Other 2 think this is funny, but she actually seems kind of sad that I did that. I don't know what to make of this. New theory: she's actually waiting for more validation and wants to feel like the relationship is "natural." I don't know how to affect that though. Other clubs It was late so some of the clubs were outright dead or almost dead. Some really good tips for how to navigate them from ShinChoc though. Open with ShinChoc in a bouncing stage club was going really well until the boyfriend who was right there started trying to make himself known. Good BT spikes on her shirt. ShinChoc mentions after that I should point to myself and not at them when trying to reference something so I don't make them feel nervous. One open I open the guy and ask if the girl behind him is with him. No. He gets up. Took too long? She wants none of it, no English, no Chinese, she gets up and walks away. Last notable open is on a raised platform with a rail slightly higher than the dance floor. Girl is watching. I open poorly asking about her dress. Are you two here together. No. Very little more chat. She steps away. Okay, ShinChoc want a chance? Nah, go again. Hey so are you a princess or something? She walks away entirely. I try to open the other girl (who was actually her friend) She doesn't respond either. I go back after talking to ShinChoc a bit about where to go next. Before we leave he says open her again. I do, she still waves no but she's not actually leaving at this point hahaha. Left for the next venue and eventually did a debrief with ShinChoc over breakfast Things I did well: -I did whatever I wanted on the dance floor and it worked. Come to think of it I do whatever I want pretty well -I didn't hesitate to open at all that I can recall -I got a good timebridge that turned into a d2! -I ran a long set and never really lost too much momentum -I opened obstacles and made the friends like me Things I will improve: -I will always always ALWAYS remember to do logistics discovery early in set (this is basic optimization I can't believe I'm forgetting it) -I will find ways to use social proof even more effectively -I will focus a bit more on my kino escalation/calibration -I will stay in set a little longer in sets I'm not interested in so that it appears I am doing well to other girls who are observing -I will wear appropriate clothing outside and sleep and eat healthy so I don't get a shitty sickness while I should be gaming Realizations: -I have actually gotten a lot better at this! -Guys usually have no idea how to deal with another guy hitting on their girl for some reason, even if they hang out in places where it's hard to tell who's with who -Girls that dress well seem to be more responsive to being opened -Smiles while walking by seem to make opens easier, should have used that more -Other guys pushing you to open makes it a challenge and really makes AA pretty small
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  10. Life Update For those of you who aren’t fully updated with my life. I am currently back in the US to attend my final year of college. Coming out of a serious long-term relationship last year, I’ve just been in a serious funk with women lately. Due to short time that I knew that I was going to be in the US (I have no fucking intention of staying here), I wasn’t really planning on practicing game and just wanted to “find myself” (Yes, I realized how much I sound like a white girl from an upper-middle class family in Northern California.) Right as I was about to go through this hippie phase where I would attempt to finish college with volume and velocity, I had the opportunity to take a boot camp with Mystery. Considering his name recognition as the mentor behind many of the greats of pickup such as JT Tran, RSD Tyler, and Style, I decided to enroll with him as well. And boy was it a…. regrettable decision. I’ll write more of a review on his boot camps on another forum post but essentially, I feel like we learned absolutely nothing new or useful. In short, the first boot camp involved us listening to him recount some of the things that he had said on his old YouTube videos and then practicing openers and negs for 3 days while the second one involved him spending 2 hours teaching me a single magic trick. Additionally, he barely approached at all. Yet, the positive thing that’s come out of this investment is that it has really lit a fire within me to go out and practice consistently. I’ve started to do solo sarging more and also written more FRs than I have. It’s crazy, before, I would go hard under the wing of Kane or go on an anger-induced rampage and then pull then stop. Now, I’ve been going out with more consistency and unsupervised effort than ever before. I’ve literally done 12-hour round-trips to NYC just to find wings and I’ve started going out alone. Yet what has frustrated me is that I’ve not only not pulled, I only achieved but two dates (to be fair one was an instant date with this 1.85m Russian model.) But there has been a silver lining to all this. In terms of my process-orientated goals, I’ve finally been able to deal with my night game anxiety, particularly dance floor game. I’ve started to open sets with breakneck velocity and hooking sets quite well. What’s more, my opener has started to hook with incredible consistently, so I know longer have a fear of not hooking enough. In game was broken down in the 5 stages: open, hook, qualify, comfort, escalate, sexualize. I would give myself a grade of 90% on the first two stages. I am THAT confident (and for those of you that know me well enough, you know I’m almost never assured about anything I do game-related.) Additionally, I’ve been opening and hooking everything from mixed sets to 8 sets in various energy venues from bar area, outside the bathroom/coat check, rooftop patio, live-band, to high-energy techno dancefloors. Additionally, I’ve started to learn with handling various handicaps from wingmen who have AA, going out alone, wingmen that unknowingly AMOG me (his opener to enter my set was “Is my boy harassing yall?”, and lesbian amogs lol. Although I’m definitely having a hard time (especially with escalation and trying too hard) where there are moments where I (thanks to my 95thpercentile neuroticism) question aspect of myself. I’ve forced myself to take a deep breath, forcibly chill the fuck out, and push myself to spend more time going out, drilling in routines, and writing FRs. Turning my exasperated frustration into a proactive obsession. Game Update In terms of my game, it’s definitely fair to say that it’s undergone a massive transformation. Firstly, due to school, I haven’t been done much street game or day game. I’m guessing this might actually be one of the reasons why I’m having a hard time because my strengths and literally 95% of my pulls have all been girls that I’ve met at low energy environments. So, you could say I’m focusing on strengthening my weaknesses. Additionally, the way I use to run game was based heavily on my state whereby I’d naturally DHV myself due to the fact that I was an ABC and that I’ve had really interesting life experiences. All my field reports were super long before because I had a tendency to improvise literally everything I said, and my results were mainly state based. Then after enough of a rampage under the supervision of Kane, I’d somehow get calibrated enough to pull. Now, my game is completely different. I’ve been more heavily diving into the structured routine-based game whereby I just been going out and running routines. Using the same opener, same qualification question, rehearsed negs. My goal so far has just been to rehearse and practice my material so that I can increase the concision of my FRs (and the time it takes to do a single write up), remember my sets with more ease, and become more processes driven. I been forcing myself to be so meticulous to the point every set I’m in I’ve begun to literally run a checklist infield. Here it is: 1. Did I approach sets with volume and velocity? 2. Did I smile and have open body language? 3. Did I do a BT Spike? • You know how I know you are close, you guys make the exact same facial expression • Cool Handshake • Flex for me 4. Did I Neg (Optional) - Scaled • It’s so cute, your nose wiggles when you talk • You have a white eye lash • You have the exact same eyes as my baby brother. He gets all the girls • You are the beauty and the beast rolled up into one • Where the hot girls at? • Some girls that 2 hours get ready, you look like you took 10 minutes • Yes “White eyelash” 5. Did I do my cold read 6. Did I relate their statement to a statement about me that demonstrates value about me? • Leader of Men • Présélection • Protector of Loved Ones • Family Man • Risk Taker • Well Traveled and Cultured • Man of Many Interests 7. Did I attempt Kino (Hug)? • No 8. Did I attempt to Lock-In or Isolation? 9. Did I do a DHV Story? (look below) 10. Did I run a qualification statement? 11. Did I ask for tonight’s logistics? Did I figure out who she’s with? What she is doing? What she’s doing later tonight? 12. Did I check compliance? • Instagram is one 13. Re-Do Steps 4-11 14. Did I state direct male-to-female interest 15. Did I get PIE through mixture of questions and statements • Job • Schedule • Hobbies 2. Did I Seed Date? 16. Did I Time-Bridge? 17. Did I get phone number? 18. Did I attempt Beckster’s Routine (K-Close)? I think one of the reasons why my results have been slower aside from me traveling to multiple environments is the fact that I am undergoing a massive inner game transformation alongside re-organizing my entire technique. It feels a bit constraining for the moment, and I do get brain farts from time to time but hopefully this approach will pay dividends soon. Here Are A List of DHV Stories I Run Now 1. DHV #1: Skydiving in Cancun To Open · What is the most adventurous thing you’ve ever done? (Question) · I feel like the best moments in life are those that are spontaneous. A few years ago, my New Year’s resolution was to do something that scares me. So, my ex-girlfriend at the time was celebrating her birthday, I was like “hey babe what would you want for you present” and she was like “surprise me” So, I booked a trip to Cancun to take her skydiving. To be honest, skydiving scares the crap out of me. Originally the plan was to see the Aztec Ruins because she needed to take photos for her Instagram. Don’t make fun of her, but that’s how she made her living. So that day, she said man the sky looks so beautiful “I wish we could go skydiving.” So, I called, hoping that they wouldn’t answer, because it was getting late. Then they picked up the phone and I was like damn “I guess I’m going skydiving” I kid you not, sky diving was one of the best, most liberating experiences, I’ve ever done. On the way back home, I sat next to another rapper. So, we start doing some rhymes together, and my ex-girlfriend looks at and said, “don’t do it.” The whole plane started looking at us because it was the first time, they’d seen a bilingual freestyle. So, the guy I met on the plane, he’s still one of my good friends, he started his own hedge fund. And sometimes we do business together. Attraction Switches · Pre-Selection · Successful Risk Taker · Ability to Emote (Role Playing) 2. DHV #2: Funny Weight-Loss To Open · You look like you work out a lot? (Question) · I feel like the hardest moments allow you to become who you are. Ever since I was a kid, I’ve always been a mad foodie. So, I ate a lot. When I was a 15, I was 50 pounds overweight. I was so fat, that the doctors diagnosed me as obese. Despite all this, I didn’t see myself as fat. I was quite popular, had tables at exclusive clubs and people treated me really well. Optional Have you ever watched Cheers? Who’s your favorite character? Do you know Norm? I was literally like Norm Because of that, I didn’t really see myself as fat, just a bit chubby. 3. DHV #3: Student Entrepreneur To Open · You look like you work out a lot? (Question) · I feel like the hardest moments allow you to become who you are. Right now, I am an investor, but before I was always an entrepreneur and I came back here from China to move on to new venture. And there’s an interesting story behind it (bait) Optional Girl: What was it? Me: I’ll tell you in a bit My dad is a successful serial entrepreneur and ever since I was 3 years old, I would go into his boardroom meetings. My dad even sent me to the best entrepreneurship school for college. So, I was raised as an entrepreneur. I took a break from college and that was probably the best decision I ever made. I back to China, where I learned French. (pause) I know it’s weird because I’m going to France to learn German. (if she gets it then let her call you out on it) I started a ran entrepreneurship competition for high schoolers all over China. We grew quite quickly in the beginning, like within 5 weeks we made a revenue of 100,000 USD. To be honest, people would think that making money is what makes you happy but what made me happy was the fact that I was able to enable people to make money for themselves and people like my employees had the opportunity to make money for their children. Till this day, one of my favorite things to do is to speak in front of audiences and empower them to pursue their dreams, to start something. Extension · True Happiness Dalian · Ability to Emote Attraction Switches · Leader of Men · Successful Risk Taker 4. DHV #4: Opener a. If I was going to die and, on lying my deathbed, and I was going to have my last meal what would you make me? i. And chocolate covered strawberries with whip cream doesn’t count b. If I was going to wake up in the morning to your cooking, what would you make me? i. By the way, I’m judging you based on your answer. ii. If I don’t like it, you’re not spending the night. If I ever called my grandma a cook, she’d slap me. “It’s chef” My food still isn’t as good as my grandma’s
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  11. Field Report: Hardest Weekend Since I Started Gaming Again Context: For those of you that know me, you know my story. For those that need further context, I had gotten out of a long-term exclusive relationship back in May and it had messed head. Afterwards, I had a chance to learn from Mystery and take a bootcamp with him. Prior to that, I was very inconsistent at game. I would go out hard with Kane for 7 nights straight and end up getting a lay but afterwards I would either voluntarily or involuntarily mess up with my own progress. Due to my weird life situation, I've rarely settled down to a set routine or even city for more than 3 months so I lost a lot of the momentum that I needed to propel me forward. Anyways, after having taken a bootcamp from Mystery (it wasn't all that great to be honest) I just felt a sudden fire light up on my ass which compelled me to go out and game consistently. Prior to this night, my game momentum was flowing and I was hooking sets on a regular basis as well as get very compliant instagram/wechat/number closes so I was quite confident that my game was on an upwards trajectory. At the same time, I felt a sense of nervousness build up in me because I felt a pressure that I HAVE TO BE BETTER EVERY WEEKEND. Currently, I am based in Boston. But due to the winter holidays and Boston being a student town, there isn't much opportunity to go sagging but fortunately a guy from this very community started running masterminds in NYC so I decided to met up with them as well as a new student of Kane's in order to game. Since I've come back to America and learned from Mystery, my game is acclimating to the environment so it is becoming more westernized and I had forgotten the grind of plowing through avoidant Fobby Asian girls. Anyways, I went too Mission Nightclub (a NYC-based nightclub that literally felt like a miniature reincarnation of Seoul's Octagon) and I was so shocked by the types of reactions that I got from girls that I kind of fucked me in the head a bit and I started questioning my game and myself. The second night I went to a western nightclub called 230 Fifth in New York but due to the mind fuck from Friday night my mental state wasn't right which affected my delivery. Anyways, here is my field report from last weekend - the most difficult weekend that I've had in a long, long while. First Night Out: MISSION Nightclub 1. Chinese Set (This was a warm-up set) Going into the nightclub and seeing how different it was from the Western venues coupled with my self-imposed mental pressure to perform at an improve level definitely affected my ability to game with a relaxed mindset. While normally, I would head into the club and approach the first set I see and then go on a sarge rampage, this night I was a bit hesitant. I waited for like 5 minutes and talked to my wing before I could get the courage to make my first approach. At the time I saw a set standing near the entrance and I approached them. Me: "Hey guys! Let me guess you are definitely from China" HB: "Yes!" Me: "Me too!" *high five* ----- should've done a spin Me: "You know how I can tell, you're friend she has a super Shanghai style" HB: "haha haha where are you from?" Me: "Guess!" HB: "China too" Me: "Africa" Thinking back on this I should've been more cheeky and used the said "Africa" in Chinese but next time. Afterwards I am not sure exactly what went down but it's likely that I didn't really know any BT-spikes so that I ended up skipping qualification and going straight to asking comfort interview style questions. I guess my main question and problem from this set was that I didn't really know how to handle the obstacle (I mistakenly didn't bring my wing in because the set hadn't hooked) and I simply didn't know what to do due to a lack of BT spikes. What I could've done with this set was come in with better energy, planned and rehearsed a couple of non-verbal BT-spikes, and then qualified them before I go into my default interview mode style. Thoughts? 2. Korean Big Group Set Completely forgot about this set, so the details are quite blurry. I think I approached the set and opened my girl with "Hey, I had to come over here and introduce myself... because ..it seems to me that... you guys have great energy!" The challenge with this type of opener is that it doesn't seem that suitable for a incredibly loud and high energy club environment. Me: "Hey, I had to come over here and introduce myself... because ..it seems to me that... you guys have great energy!" - I did this to the girl instead of the entire group. (maybe should've done to entire group instead) HB: "Haha thank you!" Me: "Especially you! You are dancing so crazy right now... I can't even.." "Watch this is you!" I then mimicked After I opened with this, I used my body language to mimic a dancing chicken. I high-fives the girl and then attempted to continue a conversation with her. During this set I think I brought my wing in but he didn't really hook and the friend then dragged my target onto the dance floor. Afterwards, I approached this girl later on but it was very strange. I was asking a comfort question and she responded and she was constantly giggling but at the same time she was like "I need to go!" "I need to go!" which kinda confused me. I had approached and spoken to the male friend as well as the female friend and they were "ok" with me, even kind of friendly but this girl was just walking away and giggling. 3. Two Set of Koreans Smoking Outside I simply cold read that they were from Korea saying that their fashion reminded me of the girls in Gangnam and then explaining how they weren't like Hyundae girls. This set got interrupted by the bouncer and the obstacle ended up dragging my target back into the club. 4. Kiss-Close Set This I think was my third of fourth set. I wanted to grab and drink because I was getting thirsty. During the bar I saw a cute two set, originally, I wanted to go to the friend who was hotter, but I ended going an error in my opening caused me to end up with the less attractive one. Despite this, I still decided to continue gaming because I wanted to run my routine stack. Me: “Hey! My friend Jackson, he’s quite shy, but he thinks you are incredibly cute.” HB: “Thank you!” Me: “Let me bring him over.” I took two steps back, did a salsa turn, and walked back in. Me: “Hi! My I am the friend!” HB: “Hello!” Me: “I came over here because I thought you guys have really great energy!” HB: “Ha-ha Thank you!” Me: “From your fashion, I can definitely tell that your Chinese” HB: “ha-ha yes I am” Me: “Me Too!” *high fived her* Me: “Where in China are you from? You look from Inner Mongolian” *I said this because she was short and girls from inner Mongolia are quite tall. HB: “Ha-ha no I am from Ningbo!” Me, my face lit up because I’m from nearby: “No way! I am from Shanghai so happy to find my East China buddy. So, I guess you must be an amazing rice cake chef” At this moment, my wingman came in and hooked the friend. Although he wasn’t able to get her to stay for a very long time and left, the friend literally just left her to me. Me: “Ha-ha so I am actually here celebrating my birthday!” HB: “That’s the reason I am here, it’s my friend’s birthday!” Me: “Oh happy birthday to her! What did you guys do?” HB: “blah blah blah.. and you!” Me: “Yes! I had one of the best cakes ever. My friends Laria, Sara, and Fifi took me to this high-end French restaurant” I then took out my phone and proceeded to show her pictures of the food culminating with the birthday cake, which was a cake that was lit on fire.” HB: “Wow that looks really good!” Me: “Yea, it was one of the best high-end French restaurants I’ve ever been to. For your friend, she should definitely go here for her cake…. What kind of food do you like?” Afterwards, I essentially ran comfort and qualification on her. The cool thing was that I was super in the moment that I had completely forgotten about gambits and even structure. I just was genuine and only focused on Kino-escalation. I found out that she grew up in Flushing which I then noted its where all the best Asian restaurants are. While this wasn’t specifically a DHV fact, it was definitely a comfort statement. By having this knowledge, she definitely felt more of a connection. Afterwards, we joked about how it was nearly impossible to find legit spicy Asian food on the East Coast and I future projected that we would eat hot pot together. Then we exchange stories about “many growing up” which I also related towards her because she had moved to America in her teens. This story helped us build a shared connection again. By this time my hand was on her back and I was slowly going down to the area right above her butt. After we had reached this moment, WeChat (number) closed her. During this process, I realized that I had been in set for a good 20 minutes, so I decided to run my DHV story followed by Beckster’s routine. DHV Story A years ago, my New Year’s resolution was to do something that scares me. So, my ex-girlfriend at the time was celebrating her birthday, I was like “hey babe what would you want for you present” and she was like “surprise me” So, I booked a trip to Cancun to take her skydiving. To be honest, skydiving scares the crap out of me. Originally the plan was to see the Aztec Ruins because she needed to take photos for her Instagram. Don’t make fun of her, but that’s how she made her living. So that day, she said man the sky looks so beautiful “I wish we could go skydiving.” HB: “Wow, I want to go skydiving with my boyfriend” Me: “Your boyfriend?” HB: “I mean my future boyfriend!” Me: “You have great taste” *high fived and then held her hand* So, I called, hoping that they wouldn’t answer, because it was getting late. Then they picked up the phone and I was like damn “I guess I’m going skydiving” I kid you not, sky diving was one of the best, most liberating experiences, I’ve ever done. On the way back home, I sat next to another rapper. So, we start doing some rhymes together, and my ex-girlfriend looks at and said, “don’t do it.” The whole plane started looking at us because it was the first time, they’d seen a bilingual freestyle. So, the guy I met on the plane, he’s still one of my good friends, he started his own hedge fund. And sometimes we do business together. Following this story, I was pushing my Kino levels to where my hand was firmly placed on the small opening of her dress on her lower back. I used to get nervous about maintaining this type of Kino, but for this time I could easily tell based her based on her compliance as well as noticeable IOIs that this girl was definitely into me. Afterwards, I decided to run Beckster’s routine. Beckster’s Routine Part 1 (Pre-Opener) I was chatting with my friend (NAME) and we were trying to decide. To be wanted or needed? (Point to self on the wanted, push away the needed) Girl: Blah, Blah, Blah Oh why? She will think more. She has to feel what’s better. I want my friends, my lover to want me. (Point to self) The only people you need is your family. In your mind, do you think you’d want your lover more or need your lover more?? It’s a two-part question before I go Attraction (Self) or Desire (Trail hands up slowly) Girl: Answer Why (Smiley and Gesture)??? Girl: Blah The way I see it, if you go around the room, (hand on shoulder misdirect them) there are some people you are attracted to (self-point) but few people you really desire. Don’t you think? Girl: Yes I’m glad you agree (shake hand, eye contact) (then spin and lock in) Who they he’ll are you? Girl: Blah Blah (Qualify) Part 2 (Insert HB Name) it’s really strange. Before I get to know someone deep inside (lock hands), I got three criteria that I normally go by, but I can only tell if you opened and friendly. Are you? (Cross arms, lean back, smile a bit) I don’t like girls that wear a lot of make-up. Put a kiss there You passed or failed (depending on bitchiness) I love girls with lush smelling hair. (Put thumb up behind air, lean in, smell and take deep breath. Sometimes they reciprocate. If based on flushes skin, pupil dilation, dinner bowl doggy eyes. GO FOR KISS, If not push away) I ended up getting the make-out. I then further isolated her. But here is where I fucked myself up. I had forgotten to ask her what her plans were. I felt like I really should’ve tried bouncing her or at least seeding at meet at the end of her night. After we continued to make out with a bit. Below is my part 3 which I actually didn’t run because we just started making out. Afterwards, I was kind of flustered from this positive result so I didn’t really know where to go on afterwards. Part 3 I need trust, comfort, and connection before I go that far. And I only have lust at the moment. I see this is going to be a love hate relationship: you would love me and I’d hate you I love girls with good taste in shoes. But do you know why? Good shows indicate good taste in underwear. Trail your hand up through her body (non-touching, Lock-in Body Language That’s strange you have got the second-best shoes on tonight’s Girls: who’s the first? Me: Me And there’s a fourth (conspiracy Style), but I need to tell special people. Are you special? Mini-solation within club I won best kisser in university, two years in a row. I only kiss girls who are good kissers. (Pull girls hands so that she’s holding onto my waste, your hands are off) What are you? 1-10 Girl: Blah Blah Kiss Roll off after kiss: I’ll be back soon, if not, wait longer. We went to the corner to talk for a bit. Then two males came up to talk to her. Because I had thought that they all knew each other, I kind just sat back and chilled. I actually decided to befriend one of the dudes who said that the three were high-school friends. Although I believed this, I definitely should’ve asked the girl or at least prevented what might’ve been an AMOG. In this case I should’ve approached to the AMOG and said: “Hey! Nice to meet you I’m Jackson, me and HB were just talking about xyz” Then probably should’ve done a BLP to turn her away and then asked the girl whether they knew the guys or not. Instead, they seemed to be in conversation, so I decided to ditch the set. Alright there’s a messed-up trend coming where I prematurely eject sets due to a fear of not knowing what to do next. It’s between a mindset problem as well as a material problem. Because I feel like I need material for the whole night, when I finish running my routine I literally turn off. What I really should’ve done was simply danced more with the girl as well as run more comfort before attempting to pull her. I promise I will no longer let this happen again. My foot has been shot enough at my own accord. 5. Korean Three-Set I saw a three-set of Koreans standing next to the bar. At this moment, I was still quite energized and attempted to open with the same opener that I used earlier with the Chinese girl I made out with. After this I walked up to the three and said. Me: “Hey! My friend Jackson, he’s quite shy, but he thinks you are incredibly cute.” HB: “Thank you!” Me: “Let me bring him over.” I took two steps back, did a salsa turn, and walked back in. Me: “Hi! My name is Jackson!” HB: “Hahah! Go away!” Me, I was in a playful mood at this moment, so I kept on plowing. Me: “I came here because... I thought you guys had really great energy… You guys look like fun! “ HB: “Leave us alone!” Me: “What?! Stay here, I’m amazing?! Well thank you!” HB: “Hahahah” Me: “Based on your I’m guessing you are Korean! You remind me of the girls I’ve seen at Burning Sun (Korean Nightclub)” I then did a playful mimic whereby I danced like chicken and pointed to her suggesting she danced like that. The entire set started cracking up and then I decided to take the time, to talk to the obstacle using her to tease my set. Me to the obstacle, pointing to my target: “She must be the craziest one!” HB: “Ha-ha no! Leave my friends alone! Are you Korean?” HB: “Korean” Me, “yes and mentality”: “Hello (in Korean)” The girls then started speaking Korean to me, but I then told them that “I’m not Korean” HB: “Where are you from?” Me: “Guess!” *I crossed my arm and gestured her to body scan me* HB: “I don’t know!” Me: “I am from… Africa” HB then laughed, turned to her friend and then the entire set laughed Afterwards I think I skipped qualification and attempted to run the “attraction or desire routine” but I’ve realized that it’s incredibly difficult in a loud environment therefore I ended up premature ejecting. Right when I turned away I felt her touch my arm but for some reason I didn’t reopen. This set went well, but the numerous joking rejections I got really fucked with my head as well causing me to prematurely eject the set. Looking back on it I really should’ve pushed myself a bit harder in staying and plowing until the set is dead. Looking back on this I realized that one of the things that I did really well in this set was the fact that I came in with a strong and solid frame, was playful, and engaged in a bit of role-playing. Because I use to do acting, role-playing is actually one of my natural strengths, but I realized that in game, when I get all up in my head, I stop doing that. Yet, whenever I do, I get a lot better reactions because I role-play in a teasing, fun way. 6. HB Mini-Korea: To Be Wanted or Needed? - To be Avoided She came into the bar while I was standing there to get drinks. She had accidentally bumped into me, so I thought of a good BT situational open Me: “You should definitely be a football player” Her: “What? You are a football player?” Me: “No! I meant to say that you should definitely be a football player. When you came you bumped into me and I went flying” (I took a few step back to mimic the action) Her: “ha-ha No I didn’t” Me: “Uh huh you did!” Her: …. (Cold non-reaction typical of FOBBY sets) Me, at this point I thought I would try throwing in a neg: “Wow, you know what you are the beauty and the beast all rolled up in one!” Her: ….no reaction… At this point, I wasn’t really hooking the set and so I started to get all up in my own head. Instead of being playful and actually having a good time, I was quite stagnant, and I had forgotten an improv principle that would’ve been good for pick-up, the notion of “Yes And.” What I could’ve done instead was a BT-Spike where I insisted, she was very strong and made her flex for me and joke how she’s got the perfect mix of cute and dangerous (beauty and the best.) For me, whenever my set isn’t going well, I start to get all up in my head and then start going to my default mode which would be asking interview questions. I had tried to cold read that she was a student to which she said no and then at that point I was stumped so I attempted to run Beckster’s gambit. Me: Alright so before I go back to my friend, there’s this one question I have to ask? What do you think is more important to be wanted or needed? Her: AVOIDED! And then she just walked away. This set really fucked with my head because I’ve never had that harsh of a rejection before and, to be honest, it still is. 7. Thank You Rejections This actually has been a common problem that I’ve had with the great energy opener. Essentially what happens is that I open with my great energy opener and run a cold read (neg or BT-spike if needed) but it is met with a continuous stream of cold “Thank yous”. This confuses me. Me: “Hey… I just wanted to come over here… and introduce myself… it seems like you guys have really good energy!” Her: “Thank you!” *cold* Me: “Yes it’s the most authentic I’ve seen… Her: “Thank you!” Me: “Let me guess, based on your dancing style… you guys are from… Korea” *maybe should’ve said Africa* Her: “Thank you” Then I tried stacking other gambits, but it was met with a cold thank you, when I then attempted to stack to Beckster’s wanted or needed routine. The girl dragged her friend and left. My belief about this is that it’s either a problem with my delivery or my structure In retrospect, I may have run this way too fast and said: “Hey I came over here and say that I think you have great energy.” All in a single sentence. I have a tendency to talk incredibly quickly and ramble (more on that later) so maybe that’s a reason it didn’t hook. 8. Bartender Interrupt This was what I had learned from the debrief immediately after the night 5 Things You Did Well 1. I Went for the Kiss Close a. Yes, although for super Fobby Asians this is a big no-no. I just really wanted to get over my mental block of going for make-outs in clubs because it has led me to fear going for make outs in any other settings including day 2s. While I am upset I lost the girl, she was hot enough for me outweigh the mental block that I needed to get over.This is a serious mental block, like I was afraid of kiss closing all my exes even when we were in bed already. 2. I ran my DHV story once which led to positive response 3. I was highly aware of IOIs from the girl and did compliance testing 4. The Korea 3 Set, I came in with a strong frame and incredibly good energy. Additionally, I kept on plowing for a little bit. 5. I attempt to adjust my energy to approach in order to figure out what works 6. I compliance tested her and isolated her a few times 5 Things I Need to Improve On 1. Better Openers in order to hook ESL girls (Flash Game) 2. Volume and Velocity - After getting blown out consistently I was really confused and started second guessing myself. Next time I will simply go on a super rampage. Rejection means I need to approach the next set 3. At times, I think that I may have come off quite gamey where I’m just throwing in gambits seeking some sort of positive reaction. 4. I was quiet when my sets got interrupted, next time I’ll just continue stacking and stacking 5. Body language and vocal tonality, at times, girls struggle to understand me 6. Plowing more, like that mini Korean girl I should’ve just continued with her and BT spikes instead of negs 7. Bring my wing sooner in our sets rather than attempt to go at it solo 5 Realizations 1. Plow Plow Plow 2. Fobby Asian Game is different from Western game in terms of energy level and technique 3. You need to befriend the group, with complements 4. The one who approaches the set is the more loved one 5. The power of having a stack so that you know what to do next
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  12. So from Daygame , I met her . she is 4 on my scale. She is around 30, travelling Chengdu alone, staying in a hotel. It was quite easy to get her on the D2. So, I decided to go on the date because I wanted to practice my D2. Today, around 3:30, we met near subway which is nearby a temple. We walked in to the temple. She was friendly though she was very shy and nervous. We were communicating through translator. After walking for some minutes, she took me to dinner. On the dinner, I was trying to build the conversation. She was responsive but most of the qualifying questions I asked, she avoided. Also she was not responsive to kino. She paid for the Dinner. After Dinner, she asked me to visit another temple. By that time, I was unable to carry the conversation. Every way, I tried to start the conversation, she was not willing to join. I was looking for body language cues to see if she was bored or something. So after reaching the second spot, I decided to push my kono further. Suddenly, she was responsive to the Kinos. So I led her by taking her hand in the crowd. After visiting the second spot, we were walking towards the subway to get back home. This time she was holding my hand when we were crossing the road. I understood, for some girls, it takes more time to get comfort. Then I thought may be on the next date, I will get her more responsive. So I said to her that I still owe you for the dinner treat. I invited her for coffee on another day. She said okay. Things I have done better: 1. I used body language more often to make her understood what I was saying 2. Took the risk to push the Kino further Things I could do better: 1. Building more comfort and attraction 2. I was afraid of kinoing her. I need to overcome that. 3. My sexual projection was not that good
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  13. I've recently started using productivity resources and I've been surprised at how effective they are. All the ideas basically came from http://www.lifehack.org which I highly recommend to anyone who wants to become more productive. The resources I've started using: Keep Focused http://keepfocused.codeplex.com/ - A very simple Pomodoro Timer for windows. The Pomodoro technique is a technique for working 25 minutes on and 5 minutes off with a longer break every 100 minutes. I've found that when I get started working it's hard for me to stop and I have to force myself to take a break. I may try switching to another timer that lets you adjust the amount of time you work and are off, but this suits my needs so far and it keeps a record of what you spent the time working on. Focus@will https://www.focusatwill.com/ - A really good music program for focusing on your work. I was really surprised at how well it helped me focus on the work I was doing and was often the reason I went over on my Pomodoro period. The free version lets you listen to a particular section for 1 hour (but there's no pause so it'll start over if you stop it), there's plenty of sections so you should have enough to last the day. You can also try the free trial. Also available for smartphones. Evernote http://www.evernote.com - A really great notebook program that syncs across all your devices. I use it to record quick notes and other memos and can check it anywhere at anytime. I'm still looking for a good scheduler/reminder type program where I can record my goals for the day and set up simple to-do lists that check up with me if I've done them. Will update this post when I find something I like. Have a great program or system YOU use? Share it here so we can all benefit and exalt your genius!
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  14. Anthony de Mello is an indian Jesuitian Priest. The talk I am reviewing is held in front of a fairly young adience, not necessarily your typical church audience. He starts off by explaining the importance of listening. He found out that it doesnt make sense to try to teach somebody who doesnt want to listen. He uses a lot of stories and metaphors to get his point across. He tells the story of an indian guy who only has 6 months to live. Those 6 months were the happiest time of his life. Anthony de Mello emphasises that your life is in a mess if you dont enjoy every second of it. Every upset and every form of negativity inside of you means that your life is in a mess. He tells another story of guy who goes to a tribe in South Africa. The land of that tribe has a lot of diamonds, the natives dont know how precious they are. So they give him a basket full of those diamonds. He sells the diamonds and uses the money to buy the land from the tribe and becomes the richest man in the world afterwards. ADM says we often dont know what precious things we already posses. A metaphor for our life and that we dont know how precious that alone is. "The more occupied we are with something, the more we forget" is what we says. A fisherman finds a box on the beach one night. It is full of flat stones. He playfully throws them in the water not really checking what they are. When the sun begins to rise, he sees that those are diamonds.He only has a few left. A metaphor to that we often dont know how precious our life is, so we throw it away beeing upset, refusing to listen and beeing unhappy. A man is standing in the ocean. There are waves that make beeing there inconvinient. He asks people to make the waves stop somehow. He could just get out of the water but he refuses to. ADM says that we often want to stay in our bad state. We want to be miserable. You dont have to do anything to be happy. A crazy thought, ADM says. Beeing happy is crazy for the average person. He also talks about dependance in relationship. Beeing attached to another person leads to beeing unhappy. True love is not beeing attached to somebody. "I dont want to be happy. I wanna be miserable with you." "The route to sorrow is desire, so we must be desirelessness" "The route to sorrow is attachment, so we must be attachmentless" He tells another story of an african tribe that had no fear about things that didnt happen. Why would they worry about something that is not? Its like fish that is afraid of drowning. Beeing upset doesnt do anything. Because reality is not upsetting. It is the human that is making us upset, or our "programming" as he calls it. Then he goes back to the attachment topic. We should not be attached to be people. Even if they die, there is no real reason for suffering. I would probably disagree with that, it is a nice thought to be so unattached and present in the moment, but if we are honest...I dont think any of us would proceed that event like ADM tells us to. "We shall never be upset. Reality is not upsetting. The human mind is what is making you upset." If a person is making you upset, that means you are punishing yourself for other people's mistakes. That doesnt make any sense for ADM. In that context he tells a story about a man who always bought his newspaper from an unfriendly kiosk. When he was ask why he does that he answered that the unfriendly kiosk owner doesnt get to decide where he buys his newspaper. He just didnt get upset about it. Another story about beeing not attached: A man gives another man a diamond. The man becomes rich, but quickly is in doubt about himself and the situation. He returns to the other man and says "could you give me the riches that made you give this away so easily?" Meaning: We are already happy if we are unattached to all external things. Attachment is a false belief emphasises ADM. In my personal opinion "A rediscovery of life" is somehow similar to Eckhart Tolle's teachings. Both is about letting go and not beeing attached to what is externally happening to you. Also the programming of the mind is not to be trusted and therefore also our emotions. I think Eckhart Tolle is a little more practical because you also have the act of mediation coming with it. ADM also makes it seem like what he preaches is super easy to apply but I want to see someone not beeing upset when somebody close dies. I also dont really relate to his persona to be honest and his clownish tonality and way of presenting things, but he might be just a really happy guy. ShinChoc can really relate to the guy, which is good for him but probably wouldnt have watched reviewed the whole video without his recommendation. I will try to be less attached to the outcome and the result while learning game and try to not be emotional about everything. Also I will try to be less upset about external influences like noise or people beeing rude. Things you get a lot here in China. So I guess in the end the video did something for me and I should thank ShinChoc for that. It had some impact but nmaybe not the same as for him.
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  15. mini fr: tuesday night out with danny we went out to lan kwai fong. goal was 3 approaches , at least one on the dancefloor. not a lot to approach in revolution, too many mixed sets. we went to jellyfish. danny told me i should be more concrete with my routine, bc i often dont know what to do or say. on the way to jellyfish i approached a group of mediocre xinjiang girls. asked which club the best is. in jellyfish i approached some girls danny choose me to approach. then he wanted me to dancefloor aproach via some hip movement which really is not my kind of style i noticed quickly. so,.i approached a lot if random sets on the dancefloor just asking if they speak chinese. got some laughs but didnt pursue anything further. outside i approached a girl that was interested in mine and dannys conversation. reapproached her later also and got the wechat. HB7 from harbin. we left soon after that. i approached 10-12 sets that night. so a lot more then i expected. main reason was danny constantly pushing to do stuff. thx for that.
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  16. September 2017, almost a year ago, I met HB Tantan Lee over Tantan and we quickly had a D1 in Shenzhen. She just got off work, ran the date with a typical dinner and a movie. Kinoed right off the bat with a hand on her waist and sometimes switching it up to hand over the shoulders. Nothing special happened during the D1, drove her back home which was super far from her work place. She has to take a 1.5 hours subway ride to commute to work, everyday. You can imagine the distance from her home and her work place. After the D1, vaguely remember the reason why we stopped talking but it might be because lack of attraction, finding ways to close her since she lives far and because she lives far. From my place to get to her's, also requires 1.5 hours drive which I think its not worth the effort if she isn't a top notch looking 9 or a 10. Couple weeks ago, she randomly messaged me and I had totally forgotten who she was. During the time we haven't spoken a word, I formatted my phone several times due to phone hardware issues and all chat history was lost. I didn't bother backing up the chat logs of the girls I wasn't speaking to at the moment and she didn't have selfies pictures on her moments so I had no idea who she was. I had told her that i do not remember who she was (bad move btw) for two reasons, for girls I don't lable as "ping" on their Wechat description, I know they aren't the top notch 9's and 10's and also I because had a full pipeline. My reactions were careless and therefore I would be more direct with girls. If she had decided to eject the conversation, I would be fine because I am the type of guy that would hate to reject women. In fact, my direct replies or cold replies would automaticly filter them out, cause y'all know, Mr. Ballz Deep is busy going Deep Inside. After her inital ping to get my attention, we stopped chatting for a week. It was during the time HB Hong Kong Milf was giving me a hard time and ignoring me, again, I had thought of her. I started up the chat again and she knew I wanted to bang. For my first attempt to set a meet, she would reply something like "Lets meet another time, because i am on period." Thats when you know that shes down and that she knows what I am thinking. Over text, I kept reinforcing that having sex on the period is okay but she wasn't down for it at all. Anyways, i stopped that thread and if she was not being easy, i wouldn't make myself available for her. We finally scheduled a day where we both think her period would end, Sunday. It's Sunday, I messaged her the time to meet and asked her to send me location so I can pick her up. She mentions that she still on period but I had to meet up with her because I was eager to see her and also she was going to be out of town for the next couple days after Sunday for a family vacation. I told her its okay no problem. Met up, typical dinner then movie. Pulled out my Movie routine, sat at the upper right corder, the two seater since the theater was already full where no one could sit beside us because on my right would be the hallway and on her left would be the wall, started feeling her Sugar Wallz under her panties and grabbing and playing with her titties and nipples. Tons of hard resistants all throughout the movie, it was no easy task, so i had to use force to dig my hands under those panties. It was no easy task, trust me. That's when I noticed that she wasn't wearing a pad nor a tampon. Didn't she say she was on her period! LMR right there. After the movie, as she came out of the bathroom I asked her if she was on her period because I couldn't feel her Tampon and my fingers weren't bloody after going semi in her Sugar Walls (she was resisting really hard fighting with my hands and trying to pull my hands away). She said she's still on her period. As we leave the mall, down to the underground parking lot, to my car, right before she entered, i told her to sit in the back seat, she was like "No!" then i was like "why, not, its comfortable at the back." She went in, and she sat right away, I pushed her inside further, got in, locked the door and started going for the makeout. LMR, so I decided to suck on those tities, she started moaning, with resistance of pulling me off, so i necked her, and tried to pull her pants down. It was so tight that it was impossible to take her pants off. She resisted and quickly insisted of buttoning back the pants on and i forcedfully unbutton them and tried her rip her pants down. She finally gave up and said "Okay, okay, i'll take them off myself." and thats when the magic happened. The exiting thing was there were people walking around the parking lot looking for their cars, sometimes they would walk past my windshield on the side and the front. She was afraid they would see us, I wasn't, just another day at the office. I've had Car Bangs situations before. The most exiting was the one car that was parked right beside mine and they had a couple people there entering and opening their trunks. I knew they couldn't see me cuz luckly the back seat windows are tinted, too bad the front seat windows are not. After the bang, I came quicker than I thought, kissing was so good and she was super wet. We were all sweating because we didn't turn on the car for AC or else people would know that we are doing some crazy shit. She told me that i needed to “加油 ” which is a Chinese term that i needed to improve or do better, that my performance was is insufficient. This is the absolute first time that a girl told Mr. Balls Deep that he needed to improve. I was SHOCKED! I was like Wow, this girl has what it takes to be fully pounded?? This girl must be hardcore because she was demanding that I would thrust faster which hardly any girl would tell me this because I already make girls limp, tired, exhausted after sex! I make girls scared of having sex because my duration and power is something they've never seen before! She must be crazy for sex. Dropped her home, should of future projected the next meet, didn't because she lives super far. Planning to really test her to see how much she can take. Going to project a meet soon and see if shes worth while to keep. Made You Look! Aka. Mr. Balls Deep Aka. The Milf Hunta
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  17. Funny your should ask. You can follow my further antics on The Animal's Winter Weather Hustle. i should write down all this good advice so I don't forget it.
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  18. I thought I had already responded to this :S Lol yeah it was super funny how you found out about me. Game isn't just about 'getting girls' it's about improving how good you are at getting girls and your relationships with them, your social skills, your ability to influence people (because that's what we're really doing here). A lot of guys wanna get good at Game for the sake of Game, a lot more just wanna bang girls they don't really like, you're obviously the former rather than the latter. That feeling of not being able to pull the trigger and not knowing what to say really sucks, it's fantastic you took action to get past that i.e the bootcamp and all the effort you put in during the bootcamp. Yeah!!!!! No. More. Baby. Tiger. That girl in the black dress with the german broski's was so good . Yeah mad respect for sticking to the program. When we're in Korea, mention the 'daddy likes' thing to James and watch how excited he gets . Great. Yeah that was a lot of weirdo's during your bootcamp, i'm not sure why lol. What other openers have you been using since then? The Hand Of God is by far my favourite Pick Up Tech, it's gotten me into so many awesome situations. I've experienced a lot of crazy shit during bootcamps, having drinks spilled on me is fine , ask RPQ about the fat old woman in Beijing who wouldn't let me go, you'll get a good story and a laugh. How are you AA (approach anxiety levels) now? Have you gone clubbing since then? Yeah, essentially anything you want to be possible is possible, you just have to be the force of create and guide god's hand to unzip those tight jeans and rip off those lacy panties. You did a great job in both that high pressure approach and then while doing the story telling as well. Reading your report has been a great pleasure, as was teaching you. I'm happy to see the progress you've been making since then. I've gotten Jackson to start recording his set (he should post it in a day or two) metrics (opens and a basic result) and you may be interested in the same thing as you're big on numbers and data. Congrats on the bootcamp and thanks for all your hard work. Dive into reading the suggested books ASAP and you will see even more improvement.
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  19. Great Boot Camp FR, man. You've been hitting it hard ever since and it's been great to see your progress and your successes.
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  20. Looking back, can you see what disaster you were and how delusional you were about it as well?
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  21. Yes, all 3 of them are not very specific and repeat each other a LOT. 80% of the text in each of these books could have been cut or summarized. Don't expect to get any specific advice though. Kiyosaki shows you a mindset more than a how-to recipe. I have also uploaded notes for Rich Dad Poor Dad btw. And I write my notes in such a way that you do not need to read the book.
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  22. Hey, it would be hella awesome to hang out with some cool guys in London and mastermind. hmu. thanks
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  23. So I am writing this as a "daily" FR similar to the Animal's challenges, just without the actual challenge. Saturday 13 OCT Stayed up until 7am to catch the train back to Shanghai, slept for about 5 hours on train. Got the the hostel around 3, met my 70 year old roommate who was intent on teaching me advanced Chinese, ran about 50 minutes in the dark, so I was in a good mood Running buddy turned to go home, I passed a 2 set that looked cute, ran another few hundred meters and decided to not be a bitch and turned around to open them. Jogged just past them, they weren't that cute, opened with "hey, I just passed you going the other way and had to come back and talk to you" Set lasted 5 minutes, tried to push for wechat early, forgot to get logistics early on. Said she doesn't use wechat, replied "wow you're the only person in China that doesn't! That's crazy!" How about qq? No. Good me neither. Had to wipe sweat out of my eyes about 20 times. Set also tried to walk away 3 or 4 times throughout, at first I blocked them, then I stood there and just talked loudly. Mostly BT spikes and minor arm kino when they laughed. Tried to engage the obstacle by asking questions about her friend. Eventually the obstacle somehow told the target to give me her wechat lol. I took a picture of her qr code. Said, why don't we get dinner tomorrow --in bad Chinese. Found out they were from out of town, leaving the next morning, and already on their way to dinner. Said okay, then we'll have dinner the next time I'm near there. Ejected with a smile and wave, continued run Second set walked past me failing at pull ups and panting (lol), looked like a nice body, turned around and saw her watching me. She jumped a little when I saw her and promptly left. I finished bar dips and ran her direction, found her on the stairs walking her dog. A little hazy, think I used a direct opener. BT spiked, kinoed a decent amount, stroked her forearm at one point for no reason. pet her dog. She speaks nearly zero English, I made do with the Chinese I've got. A 4-5 minute set, got her wechat and said we should go out, she has to deal with work, but said we have wechat we can figure out a time. Third set, opened a girl making 'convenient noodles.' Sat down with her, kinoed a lot and BT spiked, after she made her noodles she wanted me to try some, so I got her to feed them to me. She also speaks very little English so we communicated in mostly Chinese, she started using her translator after a while and I'd respond in simple Chinese. About 15 minutes in she said she was going to see her friend. I said I could come too, that sounds fun. Her friend is a guy, and she seems to have to googoo eyes for him, so I say hi, compliment his hat and wristband. I tone down the kino in front of him as I'd been touching a LOT. Ended up complimenting the guy more and gaining compliance from him, and doing comfort and (not enough) qualification with the girl. I stay in set about 3.5-4 hours, we go to the store and then noodles while I get them to translate things in Chinese for me. At one point the guy is playing a game and I am rubbing the inside of the girl's thigh and she finally shuts me down by grabbing my hand, albeit gently. Later in the night the guy tries to awkwardly kino by rubbing her upper back and gets shut down fast. Eventually girl says she's going to sleep and they say goodnight. Fourth set, about 45-60 min, girl sitting at the same table as I walk back from saying goodnight, she's watching anime. I just pull up a chair in plain view and say, "what are we watching? " She laughs, and tells me. She ALSO speaks no English, what a day. BT spikes, comfort about jobs and where we're from, no qualification. Early and often kino, forgot to do two steps forward one step back. Was kinoing her face and with my thumb running inside the neck of her shirt on the back. Set 3 actually came back downstairs carrying a cat, I laughed and said hi, asked if it was theirs. No. Cat ran away from them when they set it down. Talked to the guy a bit and they left. Went to go pet the cat, girl joins me. I laugh and say it really wants beef. She goes and gets some, and we feed the cat, kino her some. Talk some more and she says she should sleep. Sunday 14 OCT Went to a mcdonald's on my way back from the store, at night, I am covered in massive bug bites from last night but oh well. MILF starts looking at me as I eat, I smile. Finish my food, walk over and do the hand of god opener without talking, try to engage the rest of the 4 set by shooting them a goofy smile. Try the only goofy sign language that I could come up with, pointing at my head, then her, heart, me. They heard me talking to the lady who took my tray from me and were laughing confused, so I bitched out and just said "I think you're cute, can I get your wechat?" said I liked one lady's silly shirt. They offered me a seat but I said "I want to run," not sure if it was "I want to go running," or "I need to run though" but they said "oh ok!" I smiled, waved and left. Things I did well: Kino early, and getting calibrated enough to preempt getting shut down usually Approaching when I don't feel like it Got out of my own head some and stopped thinking so much about what to say Used my Mandarin knowledge creatively to BT spike and make intelligible statements Kino felt more natural and less forced Things I will improve: I will get back into my head just enough to remember to add in qualification and comfort rather than just talking aimlessly I will continue improving my chinese I will start ejecting sooner if I don't like a set and don't think the practice is helpful I will relax and enjoy myself more when in set with girls I don't find attractive, so I can wing better I will start opening more of the hot girls I see that are out of the way so I can get practice! Realizations: Great game may seem super natural, but mine doesn't yet Normal people have parts of their game figured out, but often make huge mistakes too Having everyone you pass like you gives its own form of social proof, increases compliance Kinoing aggressively but naturally seems to make girls more likely to return kino
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  24. Great write up! You made massive progress over the training from barely being able to talk to anyone to looking like a very social guy by the end and being able to approach girls comfortably anywhere. Well done, my man! And looking forward to seeing you when you get back to Asia!
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  25. Woops! Can't believe I forgot to reply to this! I'm glad you caught up too, all the advice has been helping me improve far beyond what I thought I could manage! This is excellent wisdom and yeah, like I learned tonight. The more people that look at you positively the better because other people do notice. You're definitely right that other sets don't really know the difference between the guy trying to DHV himself and me making friends with the group. You can add this on as a BT spike. Ahh okay. Yeah if I make sure to make it obvious it's a BT spike it's not too weird It's supposed to be a BS palm read, so you could just keep going with it and make it over the top ridiculous. Probably when she told you that you were wrong and she knew about palm reading you just cut the thread at that point instead of doing something like: Oh...then you know that this line means that you're going to have 15 kids with me or something else funny. HAHA! Okay good point. This is definitely something I can apply a lot when I think I'm stuck. I guess what do you do if you feel like you want a second to think of a good response? Ahh okay. Number 2 is really good haha. If you don't ask you can't get what you want right Don't ask the guys, they often lie. I've been putting this into practice and it's actually really funny because the guys will try to say that and I ask the girls and they go we just met. Did you come up with anything? Not that night. I wanted to say something like "You should lick it off!" But at the moment all I can think of is pretending to sniff it and saying it smells good, what is it lol OH MAN! I can't wait to read this! Please no the trauma! This is one way to do it. Another way to think about it is that if you build attraction, you can go back into the set later when they're in a better position logistically, or to use them as social proof for other sets. Ah this all makes a lot of sense, especially now that I've been doing night game a bit more. Gotta get those sets on the way from the bathroom! Not all your sets will open. You generally just follow best practices. Clearly her friends think it's about her and not about you or they ALL would have left. So that implies that it wasn't your problem but that girl's. Haha I hadn't even realized that. Yeah I guess the girl might have had some problem with guys. But some girls seem to do this regardless of the guy that's opening them or how. Is the answer just more social proof and DHVs in front of them without opening? Because short of running into extremely handsome guys that don't want the hottest girls, they seem to be at the club to blow guys out lol Woah, this sounds super hard but really exciting to try Yeah that seems like a very plausible theory. What kinds of facial expressions do you use? Do winks and smiles count? Or stuff like being really goofy? I've tried being silly and sticking my tongue out at girls but usually that goes terribly THIS IS GOOD! I'm going to use this! HAHA! Thanks! I thought it was pretty funny when I said it too This actually really helped me recently, trying to remember to at least look like a gentleman. Because typically I would try to be a gentleman but with game I kind of redid my social interactions from a blank slate and had to relearn what I can and can't use from the past. It helped my close HB Rumba though. Otherwise I would have been like oh shit drunk friend, probably isolation is the right move. This is very true in Japan especially and also in Korea. In fact, I'd say that in Japan the more attractive girls are far less likely to speak English. I would advise that you stick to gaming in Shinjuku, Shibuya and Roppongi to maximize your chances of opening girls who speak English at least decently. Most of the girls in Akihabara are super Japanese so they have no education and don't expose themselves to western entertainment media either. Glad I finally caught up on this. It was great having you come out for the boot camp and looking forward to hearing more about your Japan adventures! Yeah I'm wishing I learned katakana and hiragana before I came here this time, since it takes a lot of time to learn and all the good japanese apps use them. Oh well learning from girls is pretty good too lol! Yeah it's interesting too because I think the more I can hook in Japanese the more I realize that the types of girls I learned to game (because they speak English) have very similar backgrounds and tendencies to each other. Like you said at some point you'll learn to get the types of girls you pursue.
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  26. Good idea to get to know about that in detail if I can! Thanks for the advice. You are right! Time to go out and crush it. Went out with Romeo and a guy from Japan yesterday & had good fun in Itaewon and Gangnam! My game is all rusty but my inner game improved a lot so approaching is generally no problem and I am kinda bulletproof against any girl attacks - I might have to think how to respond but it generally does not throw me off. I'd be probably more than happy to upgrade my "shield" with some crazy ass moves from chicas??? - give it to me baby, uhuhuh!???. Can't wait to get blown out in sets???
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  27. @Ditto thanks for your input! Yeah, that sounds like a solid plan for digging deeper and to get to understand her behaviour better! I got a reply from her this morning (did not follow up with any other message) asking "When would it be good (to see)?" I replied that either Wednesday or Thursday would be good (also since she said she noe could meet on weekdays due to her quitting her job). She replied "seems you are busy on the weekend!" I replied with "I just want to cuddle my Schokobaby as soon as possible *cute sticker*". She sent back a heart emoticon. I replied "I just would be happy to see meine suesse Kim Peach also during the week especially now since you have more free time :)."[message read but no reply]. Maybe calling her would be way easier to get her to reply directly. As said reliability isn't her strength at all. I am also sometimes questioning her excuses when she suddenly says she has to leave - she is just a weirdo...Still, this is purgatory and writing all is darn painful but it might solves some issues or will give me the morivation to ASAP look for a better alternative! Let us see how it goes tomorrow with the follow up - as said low expectations. I almost care 0% if I meet her or not because it is very infrequently anyway and I never know if she suddenly has to leave when we meet. #thegirlpurgatoryisreal
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  28. Lol yeah smile a lot, can't let those normies know you're actually a robot. It's good that you're seeing where you needed to do things differently, a lot of people struggle with this, i imagine your disconnect from the situation actually is what makes this easier for you. You should NC her before you go back to the friends, just say that your phone is going to run out of power soon as the reason to do it, it doesn't matter how much power it has, they will accept the excuse. Spilled drink opener - it's not ideal.....lol. What drink was it? You could use it to ask girls where to get napkins and then what they're drinking, it will be a little strange though. Lol the rape experience. Sounds like a great t shirt 'I went to China and all I got was raped by a 5'
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  29. This reaction is normal when you havent been clubbing because your senses are overwhelmed by the environment which causes some overload on your ability to process and manage yourself. The initial 2 minute set in playhouse is pretty common, you're going to have a lot more shorter sets and need to be higher energy. You can generally look at the type of music, the overall vibe and the amount of people and figure out how much energy is needed. If its unclear, look for the people who are boring and seem like they aren't having any fun, then be the opposite of them, it's usually single men standing around using the creeper vision. If they can't hear you, get closer, or use your phone. It can be tough in loud Chinese clubs. How far did you get with your kino on these girls? The random guy bringing you in - really hard to say, it could be totally fine, you also have to consider that it may have been giving you access to the girls, which would be worth it as you could reDHV while there. 1 minute set - if she isnt giving you the normal levels of compliance, try for the one she is giving you, if none chase a different girl. The non verbal stuff - the main reason it works is that its low compliance and more fun, the fun is what makes people want to interact with you. The palm reading girl - if she knew how to palm read and you were stuck, flip it around and get her to palm read you/teach you how and then flip it back by asking her how she got into it, how it's impressive show knows how to do that etc etc (qualification) as most girls don't and are boring.
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  30. Sat 16 FEB Went to do nightgame with Limonaide and his friend. Shincoc was having a sleepover or something but we are excited to game with him next time haha! There were a lot of sets, and I didn't hook a lot of them well and ejected, none were truly getting blown out though. But for that reason there are probably a good 30-50% of opens that I totally forgot. Playhouse - big Chinese club with really loud edm music and is either dance floor or a sea of tables 2 min set, opened some girls playing a dice game at a table. Tried to get them to show me how to play, only really got 3 out of 4 of their attention initially. When I'd get one interested, I'd try to hook another, and the first would lose interest again. This went on for a bit, I tried to get Limonaide to open a different girl himself to effectively reduce the set size, but it still didn't hook Did some more opens that didn't hook because I felt like I was killing the mood by not jumping up and down to the music (everyone around us stopped lol) 5-8 minute set, realized that the only way I would really be able to open and get a reaction that wasn't frustration at barely being able to hear/understand my chinese or english was to open nonverbally. Opened HB Danson With a smile and the hand of god opener plus a spin. I opened her across the obstacle and the obstacles seemed happy but then repositioned themselves behind the target. I tried to grab Limonaide and his friend as wings a bit in but I don't think it stuck too well. Tried some loud communication and she was leaning in to talk to me, but I forgot all of the things we said. She convinced me to "dance" by just jumping up and down, and seemed happy when I complied after a couple tries. Everything was BT spikes and maybe a bit of comfort. Obstacles wanted to go get drinks so I did my best to help guide her through the crowd (from the back) and WC closed her at the bar before going back to the dance floor to optimize my time opening sets. 3-5 minute 3 set, all the girls were a bit standoffish but still interacting and smiling. Turns out it was a 6 set and they were with their boyfriends. Boyfriend 1 gave me a thumbs up or something at one point and I was like "yeah high five!" then later I think I reopened the set and the boyfriend made it clear they were together. Then he tried to get me to join him in the jumping, I signaled that I wouldn't, smiled, waved to them all and moved on. (I assume this was the right move, as letting some random guy lead me would be a DLV right?) 1 minute set, solo set seems interested and is pretty cute, but is telling me no she doesn't want to dance together or do any handshakes or the like. I keep seeing her while in other sets and she keeps looking at me but I don't know what to do. Probably should have invited her out to a quieter area. After that sets were more compliant as I was willing to "dance" and did entirely nonverbal openers for the most part. We made our way back and forth between sides of the dance floor and did some easy opens on the way for confidence and calibration. One 3 set that was actually pretty cute did the no thanks 2 handed wave and was persistent about not hooking even after a few spins and handshakes and other silly gestures I felt like doing at the time. 10-15 min set, We went outside to let our ear drums heal and for a quick chat about how to proceed. Limonaide opened a sitting 3 set with 1 guy. Opened across the guy and complimented him first, it was good. He brought me in to wing and I ran some BT spikes and comfort on the girl about where we lived and studied. Qualified her on her great drawing, that since I have no artistic ability I need someone who does to balance me out. (I was going to say so my kids can be talented at everything, but I'm still not sure if that's a really bad frame) I started losing momentum as I wasn't thinking at full speed and stopped thinking of things to say. BS palmreading fell through bc she actually knew how to palm read LOL. Limonaide and I discussed what to do across the set and decided to bounce them inside to dance and find their friends, their friends turned out to be guys and they invited us to their table. WC closed my girl and we went back to opening. 10-15 min set, Reopened HB Danson at the bar next to the dance floor and asked if she wanted to dance, lead her there and into the back where we were before. Jumped like goofballs for a minute, then I decided it'd be fun to go to the front where people were putting their hands on the plates over the speakers. Slid my way through the crowd taking her with me and even better, in front of the 3 set that didn't want to hook before. And we danced, I did whatever funny thing I felt like in a moment and made sure to keep turning to her and interacting with her or just smiling and copying her dancing. Seemed to go well, 3 set from before seemed a bit jealous too so that was fun. I also discovered I could enjoy this type of dancing, because I kept jumping like a nutcase long after everyone else's legs had started to give out and they were all just standing during the bass drops. Heh. Said goodbye when it was time to go and motioned that I had to go with my friends, tried to smile a lot and kino for a happy last impression. She texted me later asking me to come back to the dance floor Jellyfish Did some silly shuffling through the crowd to the music, smiled a lot like RPQ told me to in bootcamp. Tons of good responses and 2 or 3 easy opens that I didn't know where to take or I decided to look for higher quality girls. One 4 set lasted about 10 minutes, short girl reasonably cute, tried opening across the set and I should have gone for the one in the middle, even though I couldn't get proximity to her. Set went okay, target was pretty drunk and extremely compliant and wanted my attention. Turns out after 10 minutes or so, she had a boyfriend and the other girl might not have. How do you deal with that? Moops? -Club with mostly tables, a bar in the main room, and a bouncing dancefloor Opened a couple girls, they hooked, but it fell short on momentum because all I could do is jump around and most weren't interested in leaving the dancefloor so soon. I opened a few sets like this and the third hooked pretty well and was smiley and complaint. I can't remember, after about 15 minutes of jumping, their interest died down and they didn't want to go off the dance floor. It might have been my mental state or that I was starting to get off beat at some points too. Eventually ejected and looked for other sets but didn't hook most. Held up one of the frills on one girls dress and gave her an approving look, she seemed thoroughly conflicted and left haha Jellyfish again Opened a mixed 7 or 8 set on the dancefloor, my target and I had exchanged a couple of looks before and so I waved her over and she came, danced for me a bit and then took me back to her friends. Found out who she was there with by asking one of the guys, while complimenting them all. She was next to me but scooted to the other side of the circle as I tried to make sure the whole set was hooked. BT spiked them all a reasonable number of times and went off to go open some other girls while increasing preselection from my target. While opening a mixed 3 set, a girl behind me spilled her drink on the back of my shirt. I kept thinking I could use that as an opener since she was relatively cute, but I couldn't think of what to do. Ran into a 2 set of girls hugging, held out my arms for a hug from both. I thought it was funny but then one left and the other (a 4 or 5 at best in china) grabbed onto me and basically tried to rape me in the club. I figured I'd let her go at it for a minute or two just for the experience, but then the thought occurred to me to just directly ask her to leave and go to her place (my brother is staying at my airbnb with me.) She said wait a second and I said okay and went to look for my actual target. She was gone along with the whole set. I will say I regret nothing, but I regret it lol. Opened a couple more sets, one 4 set I tried to bounce for food with my friends but they said they weren't hungry. Met Limonaide and co. and we talked about his set and what to do for a bit and then the one who was intent on having my babies walked outside and I told her let's go together, I wanted some practice for the things I learned in the sex seminar even if I had to sacrifice a bit of my pride for it. The practice was pretty awful. LR coming soon Things I did well: -Made sure to make use of preselection by showing off the cute girls I hooked around the clubs, and high fiving the dudes I'd given face when they walked by -Did some silly openers that I enjoyed, and with good body language for the most part -Opened a lot of sets -Calibrated kino a bit better as I went along Things I will improve: -I will open more girls I think are hot that are low chance even if they're in a bad position to approach -I will pick my target BEFORE opening the set as much as possible, and learn how to open across a set but still keep my target interested -I will be more persistent in sets that seem interested but feel awkward or are giving both positive and negative feedback. Because I shouldn't really bother too much with that in getting what I want anyway -I will try to make sure all interactions I have are a DHV Realizations: -Night game is hard, but not as hard as I thought at the beginning of the night -Kino compliance in night game while dancing is a funny beast it seems, touching is more okay, but you can trigger resistance almost more easily than in daygame, probably because girls there are used to shutting guys down -I have no idea how to progress the sarge well in loud environments. Is the only goal in an extremely loud room to build enough attraction to bounce somewhere quieter? I assume you can't seed that bounce really if they can't understand your english, and all vocal communication is much slower and more deliberate.
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  31. Basic PUA Strategy for apartment: I am 37 years old. I am recently going through a divorce. I am a “theory guy”. I have read lots of books on PUA and listened to multiple seminars but I was full of shit because I never actually did anything…I just read books and listened to stuff. I finished Kane’s boot camp on 10-1 or so. I had hoped that that experience would jump start my ability to approach because that was what was preventing me from achieving any of my goals. I know a lot about theory, but I did not have the ability to execute. I had the goal of doing night game twice a month and approaching 3 girls every Monday-Thursday outside of my apartment complex. I live far away and I wanted a Chinese GF to have sex with and practice Chinese with. My standards are relatively low. I am hoping on settling for the first decent chick I can attract to have a practice GF after my divorce. I hope to find a HB 6 or higher and she speaks no English. I am not needing a girl to be super young, smart or interesting. I want a “temporary LTR”. My strategy is basically going up to the girl and following this process: 1. Walk down the street with my dog. 2. Are you from JingKui? (Name of apartment complex) 3. After “Chun Guang” closed down all the restaurants…where do you eat? 4. Jinkui is boring, what do you do for fun? 5. Can I get your WeChat? I have iterated several times and I think this strategy is the best I have come up with. The dog helps with comfort. The “Are you from Jinkui” helps with commonality and rapport. The restaurants closing by ChunGuan gives me “logical reason” to talk with them. The what do you do for fun is my away from food transition and gives a logical reason for the to give me their WeChat.
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  32. Why didn't you text her back when she texted you? Not doing so is a big no no as she signalled interest by telling you her schedule and you signalled disinterest by ignoring her. Also if you're getting attraction in that moment, CAPITALISE ON IT as it's not something that will last a long period of time while shes away from you, compliance is what matters, good reactions are enjoyable but wont necessarily lead to anything useful whereas measuring and pushing for more compliance will. I seriously doubt its the 'too old' thing, reinforcing negative limiting beliefs isnt good for you, so stop it and focus on what will help you. Her lack of response is far more likely to be because she feels like you're not interested in her or she found a better option during that time because you didn't reciprocate, you also have to factor in peoples varying emotional states. A lot of girls can be keen one day and then somewhat different the next because of the emotional turbulence in their own lives, so don't automatically attribute everything to yourself or being about you. What happens if you invite her out to something next week? i.e have you tried, if so what was her response?
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  33. Great job on getting this written! hehe let's not make too many assumptions....you'd probably be surprised by the behavior supposedly keen girls will present to you over text message. But, yeah, generally if girls aren't responding to your messages, it's because your D1 wasn't as tight as it could have been. Too many negative assumptions.... Reading through your report, it seems pretty clear to me that most of your problems come from making what might be called "newb moves." Basically, you are new to pickup, and after taking your bootcamp you do some things correctly and a good amount of things incorrectly. I'd go into more detail, but it's almost 1am and I need to wake up at 7am ? I'm not sure if you watched my seminar speech (I suggest you do, I think it's pretty golden if I don't say so myself hehe), but during that speech I talked about the sacrifices that I've had to make (and continue to make) to learn pickup. Based off what you've written in the chat groups, you seem to be hoping that you would spend a couple months after bootcamp gaming, gain a LTR of some sort, and then have a girl who could hold you down during the tumultuous period you might be soon heading to as you focus on business. Seems like there is still a little more work in the pickup arena to do before you will get that LTR. Unfortunately, for most men on this planet, pickup isn't something that you can get good at in a short period of time. Like many skills, it takes constant effort and sacrifice. It's up to you to decide how much you are willing to sacrifice to level up in this skill. I definitely think that it would be a wonderful skill for you to have, as I seem to notice traces of mental/emotional weakness and self-loathing in your writing, and I think that learning pickup would give you the emotional resilience you need to handle whatever life throws at you. I'd suggest that you sit down and map out some kind of goal list for what you'd like to accomplish in life in the next 3-6 months, and then post it on this forum (my bad if you already posted it here and I didn't see it, please direct me to it if you did). Find out how you can continue to make pickup a regular part of your life. Be aware that in the short term sacrifices are likely going to need to be made. Some weeks/months you might be focusing on pickup at the expense of other things, some weeks/months you might be focusing on other things at the expense of pickup. The key is that you are aware that all of this hard work and sacrifice is leading you closer and closer to a higher-quality life. This is a journey that we are all on together, don't get discouraged because the beginning of your journey is starting off a little rocky. It took me something like 4 months to get laid after I first took the bootcamp, and that was after a good number of near-closes where I was literally minutes away from penetrating a girl but made some kind of foolish mistake. Sure, it's possible that your age could be playing some small role in girl's behavior towards you, but from what you wrote, based on your game skills, bad logisitics, not-super-positive internal monologue, misguided texting behaviors, etc.- it's pretty clear to me that there are other issues that are likely holding you back that have nothing to do with your age. Do you know the master PUA Bexter? He's somewhere in his 40s and apparently still flying around the world banging hot chicks. Not saying you need to imitate his lifestyle, but he's an example of a guy in his 40s who is doing better than most men half his age. Anyway, just be patient and keep moving forward. You will 100% see increased success when you tighten up all of the things in your game and life setup. I'll leave the detailed feedback for Martin and Kane, but let me know if you have any specific questions for me! ?
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  34. Perfect! Yup! Time to start schooling the no-FR writing n00bs! Great replies and I'm looking forward to what's next.
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  35. How did you end up with the co-worker's WeChat? If the co-worker is a guy, he's probably cockblocking. If it's a girl, maybe they're trying to target switch you... You can show intent...that's totally different from it being a "date". Intent and interest to bang is one thing. But a "date" has all sorts of bad and boring connotations attached to it. "I want to bang you, let's hang out at the park and see how we like each other" is a lot better than, "I want to bang you, let's go on a date." Their boyfriends also don't know how to manage them too. Hahahahahahahahahaha Even if you are cheap, don't let girls think you're cheap. Actually, being "cheap" is a bad trait all around. And you're not actually cheap. Because you do spend money if you see the value, hence you took the boot camp and the sex seminar. You just don't want to waste money and want to make sure you get value for money. So you should reframe how you see yourself, because girls are pretty comfortable with a guy being willing to spend money on quality. What's more important? Seeming normal, or getting what you want? Ultimately, it doesn't matter. You just should understand that jumping through a girl's hoops doesn't necessarily mean that you're more likely to close. It only means you'll be more likely to get the meet. So, you need to consider whether you're willing to give that level of compliance for the meet. Also, keep in mind that if she "seemed keen" then she's MORE likely to give you the compliance you want. In fact, the amount of compliance you can get IS the measure for keeness. Oh. That makes sense. I think the first step for me IS being aware of the social situation. Though all of this helps with that a lot, because you're clearly pointing out things that I do not realize at all. So thanks! That's exactly why EVERYONE should be posting like you are. This is usually a result of over-confidence, laziness or BOTH! Sounds great! Good work and keep at it!
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  36. During the sex seminar in Chengdu, me and Sean went to the bookstore to practice. I like the bookstore very much. It's easier to hook girls there because of the environment. So, me and Sean approached a two set. My target was a 6. She speaks little English. For the sake of practice, I pushed myself to talk with her. She was responsive. So I wc closed her and left. On the text, she seems keen too. Over the course of 3 weeks, I invited to meet me. Though she wanted to see me but we couldn't meet because of her being ill. After pretty much one month, she agreed to meet me for a dinner. So today we meet near Tai Koo Li around 6. I noticed she looks better than last time I saw her. Since we both were hungry, we went to a restaurant to eat something. What I like about her is- she is a very talkative person. As I am practicing my kino stuffs, from the beginning I was kinoing her for example, touching her arms lightly, or touching her finger when she every time she showed me something on her mobile. She seemed well responsive. I prepared couple of conversation thread- finding her birthday and cold reading about it, how she takes care of her health(she really does), what her life goals are, how was her past relationships(no current relationship!!) etc. At the dinner time, I did most of the talking. I assumed she was already attracted to me. I qualified her on couple of things - her taking care of her health, she wants to be mentally strong and being expressive. She just said thanks every time I qualified her( may be my qualification was not good enough or it could be my expectation). I spent almost 3 hours with her. She had to go back by 9. Though I was talking at the beginning, after 40-50 minutes, she was like a machine who doesn't know how to stop talking, I was the one who was only asking questions. Next, I tried to build rapport with her. So I told how my mother's death affected my life. And then, she came up with how her father's death makes her wanting to be more strong. At some point, she said we are like same because we have so many things in common. We spent the whole 3 hours by sitting and talking. ( I wanted to bounce in to a superstore to play the superstore game but she said she need to leave soon). Anyway, she said this kind of places are quite busy and she preferred a quiter one. I took the chance. I asked her may be next time we can meet at tianfu square and enjoy the fresh air( it will save my money and of course, i will be able to take her more quiet place). She happily agreed and said,"it's upto you". So I figured out her class schedule and found that she is mostly free on the weekends. Dinner ended, I paid the bill.( I will be glad to learn how to split the bill:p). I reminded her that it was almost 9. She said she can still spend 10-15 minutes with me. So I started talking about movies. And she asked if I have ever been in any cinema hall in china. I replied no by said " Cinema halls are very loud. I preffer to watch movie at home or at a quiter place." But she said Cinema halls are not loud and I should try it. So I said may be she can take me there. She said she is looking forward to do that. Q: How can I convimce her to go to dvd room for watching movie since she preferred Cinema Halls are not louder ones? So , I walked her to the subway. I wanted to hold her hands but was too afraid to do that. At the sibway point, I offered the good bye handshake. We shaked out hand and it was pretty firm. By the way, she travelled 19 km to meet me though I travel more than 20 km to game Things I did well: 1. Did some playful BT spikes 2. Delivered my prepared routines ( Thanks to Shinchoc for sharing that first 7 hour document) 3. Figured out some useful P.I. so that next time I can get her to meet 4. Did the triangular gaze several times Things I could do better: 1. Kino...Kino...Kino... 2. I could play the question game 3. I wasn't focused on my tonality I am looking forward to get your feedback.
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  37. One thing to add is that this girl wasnt very responsive until I made retarded, funny comment about one of her model pics which she really enjoyed...so we somehow have a similar sense of humor maybe...
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  38. PERFECT! Yup, that's exactly how. Copy and paste from the time stamp of the quote you want to quote.
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  39. What sort of date plan did you have or not have going into this? You ideally should have a plan for where you're gonna go and overall what topics or stories you're going to use. Also keep the stack in mind and where you're getting stuck on it: attraction qualification comfort sexcalation Did you try seeding any place where you coudl take her and be alone with her? (dvd room is probably ur best option). Go on some more dates so you have a better comparison and can find ur weak spots. Good job on writing the FR and going on the date, don't be afraid to add more detail. If you find yourself getting stuck on what to say, have some prepared routines to fill in the gaps.
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  40. Great review! I've found that different books can have different impacts on us, even when it's the same information. For whatever reason the same message from a different source can have a much bigger impact. I've been amazed at how many people found Ekhart Tolle to be transformational, but I've never been impressed with him at all. Thanks for taking the time to write this up! Also, please link the video you watched here so others can check it out.
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  41. It was a full body hug, I think. It was standing straight up, she wasn't wrapping her legs around me or anything Hahahaha!!! I wouldn't expect the leg wrap! Okay because my mother and grandma both do the same thing and I wasn't sure if it was an attempt to ruin her being sexy Naw...it's just not considered to be a problem to talk about for Asians. When I was teaching English in Japan, my adult students would show up and I'd ask them how they're doing it they would frequently say that they were either constipated or had diarrhea! Even the young hotties! AH, just like "you looked like you were having a lot of fun in the water fountain for kids" kind of thing right? Right, exactly! Thanks! And the feedback helps immensely I feel pretty dumb for not trying to do this sooner haha! This is how people who learned PickUp have always learned. Go out (preferably with other guys who are both better and worse than you) >> write FRs >> repeat! Works every time!
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  42. Was it the full body hug or the lean in upper body only hug? Probably a better frame is to say something like, "Yeah, that's why I don't do one night stands. Too risky," or something like that. No point in talking about STDs, unless you can say that you just got checked and even then frequent checking just implies that you fuck a lot of girls randomly (otherwise you wouldn't need to get checked...) This is some Asian thing. They don't have nearly as much of an issue with discussing bodily functions, like Westerners do. I don't think there's much you can do, but I'd be keen to hear other people's opinions. Respect! You should have tried to bounce her somewhere for isolation... Glad you jumped on this opportunity, but you probably should have tried to engineer it earlier. For all you know she WANTED to be alone with you. Instead, you should do some call back humor to bring her back to the positive state of the day 2, and talk about what you'll do when you see her tomorrow...show don't tell. What SPECIFICALLY will you do next time instead? One thing though, always suggest the mom and the daughter are friends or sisters. The mom's LOVE that. Great FR, and keep them coming!
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  43. Just try to close as normal. By bringing up religion, specifically you're possibly creating a problem where there isn't one. All objections will come out when you try to close. If you're concerned, you can roll out some of the sexual frames that we talked about in the Art and Science of Sex Seminar. Girls don't like it when you make other plans after them because it shows a low level of interest in them. Also, it's possible she wanted to get full closed and your time constraint meant that wasn't possible. On the other hand, it can be a DHV by showing that you're not THAT into them. What are these, exactly? I wonder why she texted you instead of just telling your directly...strange.
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  44. Got in touch with Danny instantly when I arrived here in mid September. He helped finding an apartment within a few days. I was really desperate to get one since I live 1,5h outside of the inner city right now. Going out was kinda frustrating but also somehow what I expected. Even though I am in a new environment I still have massive AA. There is a huge amount of work that I have to do. We already did a lot game. I was out here nearly everyday since I arrived for either day- or nightgame. What I think what my problem is: I am not willing to take the pain that is associated with a possible rejection. Next problem: Rejections are much more likely with hotter girls, so if I approach it is often not the girls that I actually want. Working on it, even though there is no real progressive line since my bootcamp which was nearly one year ago. Might be because Jinan didn’t give me the right tools for that. But it gave me a lot other good things which I had to give up or have to rebuild now: a job that I liked, good money and some savings, a hand full of available regs and girls in the pipeline, a suga mama, a girl that I really liked (funnycatgirl). I am basicially starting over again and I am totally broke. I had to wait in Germany for my Visa, had to rebook my flight and paid of a little bit of debt back home. So, I went from owning more money that I ever had to barely being able to rent an apartment. I don’t know, but life was good back then. Hope everything was worth it and it is going to be more awesome in the near future. Also living in Chengdu seems super inconvenient to me. Difficult to find a didi nearby, not a lot of available taxis, has a metro but its stacked with people, my school doesn’t set up things for me, have to do everything by myself, you get no special treatment because nobody cares that you are a foreigner… I disagree with first tier cities being more convenient. If you speak basic Chinese that’s just not the case, only if convenience means eating pizza and hamburger every other day for you, then yeah…you might have a point. Overall, I am not very happy with my situation that’s why I need CHANGE. Next step is to search for a new apartment since the area Danny and me lived in is too loud for me due to 24h a day construction working. I am searching for something as central as possible so there is as little resistance as possible for going out. That’s the next step. And going out daily but that’s what I am already doing.
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  45. Idea for a date plan with Americanish Chinese girl Quick list 1. Pick her up from close by station and walk to the venue *seed 2. A beer or two at artsy venue *Seed* a. Demonstrate attraction, kino and qualify 3. Bounce to a music venue, (maybe close dance or silly dance with her) *seed a. Demonstrate attraction, kino and qualify 4. Bounce to a rooftop for a cool view of the city *seed* a. Comfort 5. Bounce to mine seeding ________________ 6. Bang Alright, because I’m quite out of practice I’m gonna go through each part step by step for myself and for you guys to offer tips and tricks. - I’ve decided to listen to her answers a little more because this will give me a better idea of how to pull her instead of just spewing verbal game bullshit. 1. Pick her up from close by station and walk to the venue *seed - I pick her up from the venue and compliment her on a specific bit about her outfit (something along the lines oh “Damn, I knew your outfit was gonna be cool but not this cool”) the inflection of my voice will by downward. I’ll ask her if she knows about the place and ask her not to be weirded out and embarrass me. At these points, when I BT spike her, I’m gonna do little kino to start with probably on her forearm and “forearm flexer”. The venue is about 5 minutes walk so I can ask some qualifying questions on the way plus it’s secluded, hip and plays good music. I can qualify on all of those things. 2. A beer or two at artsy venue *Seed* - I like toffee apple beer, so I’ll get that. I can also qualify her on her tastes and to see if she is passionate about anything. The venue is quite sensual/hip/cool/sexy so we can talk about some stuff they have around her. There is a cool vinyl selection at the back that I’ll look through with her if she likes music. - I’ll have to quite a bit of qualifying with this girl because she is hot and bored. I’m gonna qualify her on if she likes to read, does she play videogames, does she workout, does like music, does she cook (I’m gonna learn), where has she travelled, does she meditate (I have a cool rooftop I’m gonna visit and relax) o Demonstrate attraction, kino and qualify 3. Bounce to a music venue, (maybe close dance or silly dance with her) *seed - More cool points for me haha, kind of kidding but I used to play at this next venue so I should get service right away. Plus the place I like to sit is secluded and off to the side for even more kino o Demonstrate attraction, kino and qualify 4. Bounce to a rooftop for a cool view of the city *seed* - I like to do this place because I have acess to it and it’s like a pre-pull thing. I like to make-out on the roof to confirm if it’s going down or not. If I nail it, great, if not then I just remain non-reactive and brush it off. All good, I’m still having fun and we can try this later. Comfort 5. Bounce to mine seeding ________________ - Here’s the bit I’m having trouble with what do I bounce home with (guitar? Cool paintings? More alcohol? (probably not) my psp (nah)? 6. Bang Please help, tell me the good, the bad and the ugly.
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  46. "Not much reason, just wanna see if you have free time, and you also don't find me / call me out" We established a booty call relationship because we would only text chat about meeting up, with no specific plans and send sexual stickers to each other. She would tell me when it is a good time to meet and when it is not (during her period). She's not that hot, like a 6.5 but if she likes pipe, I'll be at her service. Just don't ask me for gifts or money. ? It's new! I thought I'd make the best out of it while watching a movie that I enjoy at the theaters. LOL
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  47. 8/3 1. Street set. Opened. Happy birthday. She just had a birthday party with friends. She was going home to drop off the cake, then go back to friends I said don't go home. I said she must live in Ilsan. She is a country girl. Then a cab came up, someone got out and she got in. Next time I would ask for Kakao earlier maybe since I knew she was waiting for a cab. I just didn't see any empty cab signs so I thought I was good. 2. Kyobo book store. Opened. 2 min. She worked upstairs. I said she worked at kimbab heaven. She said she was 22. I said she likes spicy food. I should have asked what she was doing there. Her friend came up which kind of threw me. I asked if they were elementary school friends or high school friends. One said they were college friends. I said college, fire friday. They laughed. I said I was shopping what would they do? One said they would go to a cafe. I dropped the set I could think of what to say. Next time I would qualify both girls. 3. Kyobo. Opened. 5 min set. Had boyfriend. About 500 days dated. I should have said let's have mexican food. Then said I wouldn't tell him. I wanted to kick myself when I left the set and thought of this. 4. Kyobo. Opened. 2 min set. She walked away. 5. Moneybean Cafe. Opened. 1 min set. She said she is talking with a friend on the phone good bye. 6. Moneybean Cafe. Opened. 20 min set. Kakaoclosed. 7. Starbucks. Opened. 1 min set. Said thanks put earbud back in and continued to watch youtube.
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  48. I just finished my boot camp yesterday. So let's see how the journey was:I came to know about Game at the last of 2015. After breaking up with my girlfriend, I was searching on the internet- "How to get your girlfriend back". And then a phrase caught my attention- "You can pick up girls". Wait a minute....we can pick up girls and establish sexual relationship with them!!!No wayyyy.So I started searching about picking up girls and then I came to know about PUA Community. I wanted to know more about the community and finally, I ended up reading the book "The Game". That book really changed my perception about dating and women. So, for some reason, I moved in China at the end of the 2017. Since then, I was 'trying' to pick up girls. I used to be the person who was going to the nightclubs and dancing like a monkey to get girl's attention. I had no idea how to get girls. So pretty soon I was totally frustrated. By that time, I came to know about RSD. So I wanted to find out anyone from RSD in China. Luckily, I got a group and then met some person who showed me the way into The Real Game! I met ShinChoc who is now my wingman and of course a very good friend, he taught me some of the very basics of game. We used to meet once a week and doing game. He is pretty good at game. but..still I had no clear idea about game. He told that he took a boot camp with some guys who are really expert at asian game. After taking boot camp, his game really changed. He also told me that it has also improved his other areas of life. Hearing this, I was very excited. And then…… I made one of the best decisions of my life - "I am going to take the BC". Once I got ready for the BC, i invited Kane for coming to chengdu. I am gonna share the experiences of each days during the boot camp--First Night:ShinChoc and me, met Kane at a restaurant near Tai Koo Li to kick off the boot camp. After finishing dinner, Kane started asking me some questions which was really annoying ;p. Because I never looked at my like that before. He made me understood why I do what I do, the things that drive me. Then he taught me some of the very basics of the night game. Then we went to some night clubs. My first set was a 2 set girls, near the dance floor. Kane told me to open them. I opened them. Hurrah!! It was that simple. But what surprised me more is the girls responded very well. I was little afraid of touching them. But Kane took my hand and made me do that. Another shock!! Target has no problem with touching them. Then we approached few more sets inside and outside of the club. Here is the thing- Kane broke the steps so simple for me that I couldn't find any anxiety. I also learned how a High Value Guy uses his body language. The night was not a intense gaming night, it was a very simple and easy night. Then we sat down in a place and Kane told me what I did right and what I can do to improve the next days. Second Day:We met another restaurant near Tai Koo Li and took lunch. It was time for Day Game, Kane taught me some of the things about Day Game and some advance topics like qualification and basic comfort. Again… the steps were very clear and simple. We went to the bookstore and approached some girls. I was shocked again. Why the hell the girls are responding so easily!! But I had some problems about hooking and BT spike. We worked on that. I felt no pressure. Then we sat for briefing and went to the night clubs again for night game.That night, I was feeling really really good though I felt very uncomfortable when I opened a girl in the dance floor another girl took my hand and started dancing with me. My first set was a two set of girls. As soon as we entered the club, I opened them. This time, they were easily hooked. Wow!! Kino was there. How good it feels to touch girls…ha ha. After few minutes of the interaction, I had nothing to talk about. Kane told me to close them and I did. Outside of the clubs, I approached few more sets. Some of the girls were really interested to talk with me but we didn’t share the same language. So I left the sets. Then Kane told me what was happening then. It was one of the important realizations I had during the BC- when the girl doesn’t speak English, I feel uncomfortable and that feeling makes girl uncomfortable. So Kane taught me some more gestures which I can use to communicate with girls and It really worked fine. Suddenly I realize that, I don’t hate night clubs anymore. Bingo!!! Last Day:Again, we met for lunch, Kane taught me How I can establish deep rapport with people and some other game tactics. It was my favorite day among those three days. We played a little game. I had to approach 10 girls within 10 minutes. At first, I did it within 13 minutes. But Kane told me to do it again. This time I did it in less than 10 minutes. And then I realized I had no time to think about so called ‘Approach Anxiety’. We opened some more sets here and there. Then Kane took me another place where I was really scared of approaching. And I got some good results from there. I understood that there are some places where it won’t be easy to get girls. Finally, I was enjoying to approach!! I approached far more than the last six months in one afternoon. And in those three days, I got rejected only 3 times! Yeah..only 3 times!! We celebrated the BC by eating delicious cheezy pizzas…ha ha. Then Kane gave me the access to the group of some intelligent, motivated people who are really working on improving their life. He showed me how I can take my life, game to the next level by consistent practice and understanding myself deeply.If you guys ask me what was the hardest part during the bootcamp, I won’t spend a second to say that writing down the realizations. Now, If I look at the realizations I have had, I can feel that those are the most important things I got from the BC. I am glad to share those realizations with you and I will make them as simple as possible:1.I had the illusion that once I take the BC I will never be rejected and I will never feel approach anxiety. Bullshit!! Some girls will reject me and that’s nothing to do with me. So AA and rejection will be there and I just have to dance with it. 2.I didn’t only learn how to game girls, I also learned how to game myself. 3.I can bring values into people’s life if I really work on myself. 4. girls like to be approached.That’s all for today. I am so glad to join this community. I have no word to thank Kane for giving me these bunch of experiences. Thanks to all the people specially ShinChoc, Mouthpiece, Leonardo for being with me in this never ending journey. And I highly recommend everyone to go through these experiences to understand how potential you truly are.
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  49. I wouldn't consider this to be forceful. It's really the best way to start because it's easy to access and it high a high chance of turning her on quickly. This means that your qualification is weak. It is the most difficult phase in pickup to get good at (in my opinion) so it's understandable, but it's something ot focus on more. Yeah, I missed these in my read over. How did she respond to these? It's VERY, VERY rare for girls not to put up some kind of resistance. It's not the west and there has been on sexual revolution so even if they're totally down, they usually put up some level of resistance just to not appear slutty. Asian guys don't respect girls who like sex (except in Japan). The day after we swapped contact information she messaged me, I sent her a picture of some spaghetti I was eating, she said that she wanted to eat some food that I made, and when I asked her what her schedule is, she didn't respond. This is normal behavior. How long before you followed up again with her? I think that this attitude might be holding you back from being more successful because instead of working hard at figuring out how and what you could do better you're letting yourself off the hook by saying that it's good to play it cool and not be interested. It is good not to care too much, but to improve you have to really want to get better and focus on it and think about it a lot. The fact is that each particular girl is a great lesson for us to learn and improve from, but if we're not pushing ourselves then we won't get the lesson. This may not be the case with you, but I'm pointing it out just in case.
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  50. This is a very difficult situation because she's one of your students so she could have all sorts of hidden motives for her behavior. If this were a girl from cold approach or an introduction, I would say that you definitely could have closed her. She gave what seems like VERY token resistance that you could have easily gotten past by turning her on more and being more persistent. Since she's your student though, I wouldn't advise the same kind of tactics and I think you need much clearer signals. First off though, it sounds like you really should have been working her neck and ears a lot more, because it sounds like you went straight for her legs. Also, future projection is woefully missing. Also, not a lot of qualification. Sure you let her know you appreciate her for the things you did, but you didn't let her know that you appreciate any unique qualities about who she is as a person--at least from what you wrote here. Not setting the next meet was a major mistake, but really, with no future projection, it's hard to imagine how you would have set it up. I think that your intentions for this girl need to be a lot more clear. Like are you trying to date her, or you just want her to come over and have sex with you occasionally or you just want to close her once or..? Because maybe being more overt about everything with her, verbally would have been the way to go. Really hard to say though, because for all I know, she's just trying to get good English class grades and thinks that if the teacher thinks he'll get some, she will. I was also wondering why so many weeks passed before you set up the meet since she seems to have come on pretty strong in the beginning...
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