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I also don't like it when girls shave down there. I prefer waxed or lasered — perfectly smooth and no stubble!3 points
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Pre Boot Camp Six years ago I decided to pack up everything and leave Sydney. In search of a new adventure in Beijing. I attended BLCU and studied Chinese like many foreigners do when first arriving in China. In my first few days at the university, I met a guy from South Africa who had read a few books about the game and seemed to be very popular with the ladies. The first night we went out together I watched him close a solid 8 from Wu Club (for anyone is ever in Beijing Wu Club is a great place to meet university students who are looking for a good time, at least this is how it was two years ago, maybe things have changed since then). Watching my new friend found close this girl so quickly inspired me to start making some drastic changes in my life to start improving how women perceived me and my relationships with women. I had always been very overweight, and this had always been an issue for me in terms of meeting girls as it affected my self-confidence. I joined the gym, improved my fashion and read the book “The Game”. These few small changes had a huge effect on my life, and I started to pull fairly hot girls quite regularly. I was going out to clubs 3-4 times a week in both Wudaokou and Sanlitun; however, I rarely played day game. Three years ago I moved to Shanghai for a work opportunity, and a friend of mine recommended I join ‘The Shanghai Shaggers’ wechat group as a way to meet friends in a new city. I started going out with some of the guys in the group to a club called ‘The Apartment’, I was very impressed with the skills these guys had and quickly found out they had all been trained by Kane. At this point, I had banged more than 200 girls, and even though I wanted to do a boot camp with Kane, I couldn’t justify it, as I believed I was already good enough at pick up and didn’t need it (later I would find out how wrong I was). After breaking up with the hottest girl I ever dated I was finding it difficult again to approach girls, at this point, I decided to bite the bullet and contact Kane to register for a boot camp. Boot Camp Day One - Night Game at Lebaron I had played a lot of club game over the years; however, I had never done it without drinking. When Kane told me that drinking was not allowed on the boot camp, I was a little nervous, to be honest. As we had dinner together at the Shanghai Brewery, Kane asked me a lot of questions about the types of girls I was into and what exactly I was looking for in a girl. Some of these questions were difficult to answer, as I had never really put much thought into it. Once we had established what I was looking for Kane helped me to develop some questions that would allow me to qualify the girls that I would like. We went into Lebaron early, and Kane ran me through step by step what I was going to do when we started opening girls. The first set of the night I approached the girl, (tap tap) ‘happy birthday.’ I put my hand out hoping to spin her, and she just looked at me and turned away. My body language was off, I wasn’t smiling enough, and my energy was low, Kane showed me what I was doing wrong. We continued opening sets for the next two hours, and I could feel that I was improving set by set. The main point I was focusing on was kino, body language (leaning forward too much) and staying in set longer. My final set of the night was a Taiwanese babe (at least an 8), in this particular set I focused on the energy of my open, consistent kino and stayed in the set for at least 20 - 30 minutes. At about the 20-minute point she said let's have a shot together, but as it was a dry boot camp, I had to say no. I explained to her that I’m training for a running race and can’t drink, that was fairly well received. At about the 30-minute point Kane came in and told me it’s time to leave, and I could add her Wechat. When we got outside Kane told me the reason he allowed me to add the wechat is because of I of how much I had improved over the session and that he could tell I really liked her. What I did well: Approached girls without being drunk, improved kino over the session, stopped leaning forward so much, became much more animated in my opens and gamed a girl that meets my standards. Improvements needed: Engage obstacles effectively, use my wing more, lean back and have more in-depth conversations. Realizations: Hot girls are just as easy as ugly girls. Day Two - Day Game at People's Square Day two started off with lunch at Peoples Square. Kane asked me to think off a few different date routines that I wanted to use in the future. Later on that, I was going to seed these locations or activities for future dates. The first step I just stop girls on the street, hold them there and ride out the awkwardness. After doing this a few times, we moved on to stage two, which was to stop girls and ask for directions to Starbucks, or the local pet shop to buy cat socks. Two university students I opened on Nanjing Road offered to walk with me to Starbucks which gave me some time to work some of my routines on them, I was able to Wechat close but couldn’t get her to agree to a time bridge. I continued to open all afternoon; I must have opened 15 plus sets. I wasn’t super happy with the quality of the girls around people square. However, there was a good flow of traffic which allowed me to practice day game opening. What I did well: Wechat closed 5 girls, used good body language, and qualified all sets and good BT spikes. Improvements needed: Don't miss any sets because I’m feeling nervous, use different material, and approach girls I like, use more kino and have a better stance in the set. Realizations: Day game is possible; I like night game better than day game, and day game can be an everyday activity. Day Two - Night Game at Lebaron By the time we arrived at Lebaron for the second night, I was starting to feel really tired. The last two sessions had really taken its toll on me both mentally and physically, so I loaded up on caffeine and started the session. Kane taught me how to sexualize inset using the Strawberry Farm question game with girls. I tried using this in set a few times throughout the night, however, didn’t really have any success using this content. I think the reason it wasn’t working is I was trying to deliver this content in Chinese and was able to deliver it confidently. About halfway through the session, I opened a girl from Inner Mongolia (I really like girls from this area of China); I was in the set and doing very well. My Kino was strong and consistent; I could tell she was really enjoying interacting with me. I got her Wechat and came back over to Kane at this point I’d been in the set for about 10 minutes, Kane asked me why I had left the set and made me go back to talk to her again. I really didn’t want to go back and reopen the set; I was feeling nervous about reopening a set. Kane said to me “it’s just a girl, what are you scared of?” So I went back in reopened her and continued talking to her for the next 20 minutes. I was pleased went back into the set as when she was leaving the club she came over and gave me a big hug and agreed to meet me the following week. What I did well: stayed in set for longer, wechat closed three girls, approached every set Kane told me to open, independently open sets and stronger kino. Improvements needed: be more expressive on the open, smile more in the club and engage the entire set. Realizations: Be fun when interacting with girls and speak slower. Day Three - Day Game in Xintiandi The first task Kane gave me was to think of what were the most significant achievements of my life, my biggest failures and some of my biggest learning experiences. After telling Kane about these points, he helped me build a story routine for deep comfort. After we finished lunch, we went outside, and Kane said to me that the goal of the day is to go on an instant date. When he mentioned this, I was feeling really worried as I doubted I’d be able to do this. On my second set of the day, I saw a really hot girl walk down one of the alleys to take photos. I went up to her and asked how to how to get to Starbucks, and she offered to walk me there. As we started walking together everything Kane had taught me over the past three days was coming together, and my routines were working so well, it felt like I had a superpower. I established that she had one hour until she was meeting her friend for dinner, so I suggested we walk together around the area. It was working; I was on an instant date! As we walked together, I started to run the deep comfort routines on her, after I finished the story she offered to buy me a coffee at a nearby cafe. We sat down, and I started to ask her lots of hypothetical questions, for example, “if you could go to the airport tonight and fly anywhere in the world, where would you go and why? Would you buy presents for your friends? What would you buy? We sat together chatting for about 40 minutes, and then she needed to go and met her friend for dinner, so I got her wechat and time bridged her for a future meet. Kane came back over and told me that I had already completed today’s goal on the second set of the day. We continued walking around, and opening sets all afternoon, and I was wechat closing a lot of different hot girls, Xintiandi is a great place to go on a Sunday afternoon. We finished off the boot camp with dinner together at a Mexican place, and Kane helped me to sum up the weekend and what was going to be the plan moving forward. That was it the boot camp was over and I was feeling great! Anyone who is thinking about doing a boot camp with Kane, I’d highly recommend it, he is a great guy and these three days of training will change your life forever. What I did well: Open the hottest girls of the weekend, Wechat closed most sets, went on an instant date, used my story in sets, lead interactions well and good conversations. Improvements needed: Be more proactive, body language, smile more and eye contact. Realizations: Taptap is risky in day game, Xintiandi is great and instant dates are possible.3 points
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Hi Everyone, I took my bootcamp last weekend 3/29-3/31. I took it mostly because @Ditto had a good experience and really, really wanted me to do it. I was reluctant to do so, but as someone who never had success with women, I knew it would be a good experience for me. I was the only one who took the bootcamp that weekend, so RPQ was able to focus a lot on me. Night 1: We met at Roppongi station and went over to the hub to begin the boot camp. I was the only one attending the boot camp that weekend, so RPQ was able to focus most of his attention on me. For my first approaches, RPQ had me focus on openers and pointed at a table with a 3 set. I knocked on the table and did the "Guess where I'm from" act. My biggest problems in this set were that I did everything wrong excluding knocking on the table and arguable that could have been done better too. My posture was terrible; I fiddled with buttons on my shirt, leaned in, and did weird things with my foot. The second set I opened was standing at a nearby table. I think it was 2 set and I opened the same way. After opening, I ran out of things to say and ejected because I had little social skills and didn't know what to say. I opened from a weird position and soon after learned that positioning was an important consideration. After opening a few more sets at the hub, some ignored my approaches, so I immediately ejected, while others ended because I didn't know what to do past my openers. After doing four or five approaches at the hub, we went over to Alife. At Alife, I got blown out by a bunch of sets. I learned how to better position myself when sets are walking. I also began to be more persistent, and not walking away with my tail between my legs immediately after opening. I got thicker skin about getting blown out or having sets walk away. I got a little better about opening and transitioning into the qualification stage and sustaining the conversation. The last set I opened that night was a 2 set and I brought in @Ditto as my wingman after opening. RPQ helped guide me through when I started running out of things to say. Eventually, we offered to buy them drinks and kept talking for half an hour or so. RPQ advised me to line close and time bridge, which she agreed to, to my surprise. By the end of the night, my posture was significantly better, and I stopped fiddling or doing weird things with my feet. Day 1: We met at Roppongi station again and started walking around the shopping area. I started off with some warm-up sets, which involved just getting instantly blown out. RPQ told me to approach more naturally and not straight on. My next approach was holding a pink umbrella, so RPQ changed my opener to be about her umbrella. I went over for the approach, said "Your umbrella is so pink, where can I get one" and went into figuring out her plans for the day and who she was meeting. She said she was meeting her friends at the Starbucks right now, so I ejected like a bitch, and did something weird like shake her hand. She went into the Starbucks and left a few moments later, so RPQ told me to re-open her. I looked at him like a madman and did it anyway. She was pretty keen to begin with, so I talked to her for a bit, moved through the qualification stage and RPQ gave me pointers from the side. Eventually we bounced from outside into the Starbucks, where she said she had to go after a few minutes. I ask for her line and she asked if I wanted to meet for lunch, which I obviously agreed to. After that, RPQ had me open a single set sitting down. I opened her and didn't ask what she was here for and for how long, which caused problems later. Turns out she was waiting for her boyfriend who was in a job interview. She kept glancing over at him, but I didn't have any awareness and was spending all my time just focusing on the conversation. Eventually after of couple minutes, her boyfriend walked in, to which I just switched the conversation over to him for a little bit, then ejected. We walked down to another area and I opened a set in the bookstore. After opening, she didn't really seem to understand much. I tried for a couple minutes, then ejected. I was kind of a bitch for the rest of the day, with either weak open attempts, or ejecting earlier than I should have. Night 2: We went over to Alife again. I opened a girl behind us in line, who was going to meet friends inside. After a weak open, and jumping into qualification too quickly, she walked away. The rest of the night was pretty rough. After my first few warm ups, my openers were much stronger, but I was getting blown out one after another. I approached a single set sitting alone at a table, but she understood very little English. It went well, but I ejected prematurely and forgot to go for the line close. A few moments later, another couple of guys tried to open her and started harassing her, so I stepped in and pulled her away from them. Being stupid, I didn't think of re-opening and continuing the sarge, so she left. After that set, I got blown out a couple more times, or my set got pulled away by a friend who was far away. Eventually, there was a drunk or crazy two set, that someone else had opened, so RPQ told me to go in as a wingman. After a few minutes, the other guy left and I brought in @Ditto as my wingman. The sarge went on for several minutes, but my target understood very little English and I was struggling to keep up a conversation. She started wanting to leave, so I eventually ejected. After that one, there was another two set that I opened decently and brought in a wingman. RPQ helped reposition me to isolate the target better. The qualification stage went poorly and I started running out of things to say. I also didn't keep BT Spiking, so she eventually left. There were a lot of larger sets that night, so I was having a hard time opening without getting blown out. After a couple more poorly run sarges and blow outs, the night ended. Day 2: We met in Meguro for the second day. Since it was Cherry blossom season, there were a lot of people out. RPQ advised me to use food as an opener, which worked really well. My first set was a typical warm up flop. I opened her asking about her food, and tried a few more BT spikes, but she wasn't understanding and then I bitched out as per usual. I opened up a two set after that, asking about their food and where they got it from, they even offered me a piece, so I took it. I brought RPQ in as a wingman and talked to the target about travelling for a while. Eventually LINE closed her and ejected after. The next approach was a two set sitting on the wall. I got through the open and asked them what they were doing. They said they were waiting for their Starbucks drink. I brought in @Ditto at this point and we took a seat next to them. I talked to the target for 10 minutes, but after struggling to get past the language barrier, I ejected. The next set was walking by herself, so I opened her then asked what she was doing. She said her friends were in the new Starbucks, but wasn't able to get in, so she was waiting for them to come back out. I became retarded at this point and randomly ejected after my mind went blank. A few minutes later, she was walking around, so RPQ had me re-open and ask for her LINE. I got her LINE, but didn't think about progressing the sarge and left again without trying to bounce her to a cafe, while she waited for her friends. We saw her again, and RPQ had me re-open a third time to ask her if she wanted to go to a cafe. At this point I was starting to get a little meek, so my approach was weak and she just said no. After that there was a two set sitting down. I brought in @Ditto and we talked for about 10 or 15 minute, but I had problems communicating with my target, so eventually ejected. The last set that day was a two set taking a lot of pictures. I opened saying just that and told them we should take a picture together. We took a couple pictures and I brought in my wingman. We took another picture, but had some problems isolating our girls because our positioning was a little weird afterwards. Eventually, we isolated our targets and ended with a LINE close and time bridge. Reflecting back on it, the bootcamp was a great experience and I'd recommend it to anyone. It's daunting at first and the anxiety from approaching didn't go away by the end of the bootcamp, but approaching women doesn't feel like an impossible task anymore. Previously, I never imagine it would be that easy to get a date. I could just walk up to a girl, start talking to her, and not only get her number but time bridge also. That's an incredible realization. The fact that I could do that just after a couple of days and with only the most minor amount game is mind blowing.3 points
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Review of RedpoleQ's Text Seminar I first took the Text Seminar sometime in 2017, if I remember correctly. RPQ revamped it recently and I was able to attend that as well. The principles taught in RedpoleQ’s Text Seminar will challenge your perceptions, but if well practiced you will ultimately be armed to take on the toughest challenges when texting girls. Like playing chess where one has only pawns to start with. The best part is the Text Chat, which is a great learning environment and like my personal Texting 911. The uncanny thing about the chat is that after hundreds of situations and emergency cases I asked for helped over the course of a year, like sending the wrong thing to the wrong girl, getting girls out where it seemed highly improbable, or a reg wanting to break up suddenly, the number of cases where the advice didn’t work was exactly zero. And then I look back at all the other guys asking for help and their cases. Same thing. It’s almost freakish.3 points
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Not sure if there's many active guys here on the Forum these days but maybe I can kickstart some activity! Over 30 days I'm working on my solo game in Seoul. Right now I'm in a LTR but seriously miss the rush of opening, getting a girl's number etc (despite having high AA)! For me, overcoming something that makes you feel internally uncomfortable like AA or public speaking and then releasing that energy is an amazing feeling and something you can look back on your deathbed and be proud that you did it. I'm also rusty AF, slightly out of shape physically, and just not very socially calibrated after two years of COVID, building an online business by myself in mad professor mode, a long-term relationship, and losing way too much in crypto last month. Getting out there, hitting the streets, and talking to girls seems like the perfect fix for most of those problems I mention. DAY 1 Arrive in Seoul in the morning. Check into my hotel and go outside. Already nervous AF about opening! Already wondering if I can really start this challenge. But almost right away -- as I'm crossing the road -- I see a college girl limping on crutches and moving far too slow to cross before the lights change. As the only other person nearby, she looks desperately at me for help. I go over and help support her right arm as we cross the road. She explains in broken English that she's still not accustomed to using crutches yet. She's not particularly attractive and I'm still feeling nervous, so I didn't end up pushing the interaction. But I thought it was a good omen and helped release my nerves. Continue walking around Sinchon for 20 mins looking for an easy target to open. Eventually I pass a cute girl who makes slight eye contact with me. Maybe I saw this girl earlier too? I spin around, chase her down, and ask her slowly in English if I'd just seen her outside a noodle restaurant. She shook her head 😂 . I then asked if she spoke English, she said "Sorry" and then I ejected after saying a few words that didn't progress the interaction. Thoughts: While the overall interaction was piss poor, I did a little fist pump as soon as she was out of sight --I just knocked off the first day of my challenge! I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've attempted opening during the day in Korea! So it was a small win versus me and AA. DAY 2 Again I spend like 20 mins looking for a girl to approach, but this time at dinner time. Not a lot of foot traffic tonight. Eventually I see a college girl by herself and she's walking quickly in the direction of the university. I chase her up a hill towards Yonsei University after power-walking for well over 100 meters. At the traffic lights I turn to her and say in English, "Hey you walk really fast" and I did a little body language too with my arms. She took off her air pods so I had to do the whole opener again but she chuckled. I asked if she spoke English and she said "a little". We interact for about 30 seconds, establish she's a student and on her way to an evening lecture before she has to go catch her bus. I made no effort to number close her. Thoughts: Definitely got further in terms of conversation than the previous day. The opener seemed to work. However, instead of walking behind her for 100 meters, I should have jogged so I could get alongside her earlier and had more time to talk to her. I think I'm using the "Do you speak English" line as a crutch when I don't know what to say next, which doesn't actually get me anywhere. While I found out her logistics, I didn't really connect with her in any meaningful way to warrant the interaction going any further. DAY 3 Moved to Myeongdong as there's cheap accommodation here. On the way here, I freak out when I see another of my crypto investments get crushed! Fuck. Spend most of the day watching Seinfeld on Netflix as an escape but then remember at 9:30pm that I haven't done my approach homework. I really don't feel like it, but I get myself out of bed and dressed up. I putt around Myeongdong for 15 minutes but it's like moving around trying catch lightning in a bottle. There's barely any girls around (especially my default target of 1-sets). Eventually I see a girl in tight jeans with a great ass waiting for street food. I park myself next to her and ask if she's lining up. She responds in perfect English, so I'm surprised. However, she's not as hot from the front as I hoped. Turns out she's from Singapore and working remotely for a few weeks in Seoul. We chat for 5 minutes and then I walk towards her hotel before I initiate adding her Kakao. On the way back to my hotel I go to a convenience store and notice the girl working there is Chinese. I talk to her in Chinese and she's pretty excited to talk to me but she wasn't that hot, so I didn't ask for her contact details. Thoughts: Talking to the Singapore girl was easy and she introduced me to a website for booking long-term hotel stays in Korea which is better value for money than AirBNB. So I was super happy that I dragged my ass out of bed and bumped into her. Having said that, I could have pushed things further by first taking her to a convenience store and then asking to see her hotel, which she booked on this website she recommended. At the time, I didn't think of this at all. I only realized later that I could have at tried to take the interaction slightly further. DAY 3 In the morning I go back to the same convenience store as the night before. This time there's a different Chinese girl working there. She's cuter and again excited to speak Chinese with me. Before I leave, she says "So happy to meet you" at which point I stop in my tracks, turn around, and get her WeChat. She's very young, maybe 20. Her social media pics look super cute -- in real life she's cute but jaw-dropping hot. We chat on WeChat straight away while she's supposed to be working and organize a coffee date after her exams the following week. That afternoon I approach a fairly unattractive girl with a hat and a facemask covering most of her face. My opener was to ask for directions but she ignores me so I eject after two failed attempts. Thoughts: Nice to add the convenience store part to my game. My verbal delivery and frame with the unattractive girl on the street should have been more confident, I made it too easy for her to ignore me. DAY 4 Went out quite late this time (10pm) and really struggling for foot traffic around Myeongdong. Eventually find a bus stop with a bunch of girls waiting for their bus. It takes me several minutes to work up the courage to open a really cute college girl. I open by speaking in Korean and asking her if she feels cold and then gesture to give her my blazer. Her reaction to the opener is fine and she takes off her earphones and turns around to talk to me. Predictably, I ask if she speaks English? As soon as I say this, I know I'm not going anywhere. D'OH!! She says not really and then I disappear into the night! haha Thoughts: Definitely the hottest girl I've approached so far and the opener worked fine. But it's clear that I really don't have much to say to these girls beyond the situational opener. I'm failing to progress the dialogue and not mentioning my agenda at all. So I've got some work there to do. DAY 4 Dinner time I look for some targets around Myeongdong. Eventually see a Korean girl walking ultra slow so I quickly chase her down and make an effort this time to speak in (broken) Korean. I initially scare her a little but then her face looks happy to be talking to me. I make an observation that she is on her way to eat Chimaek with her friends but it must have come out as me saying I was going to meet my friends for chimaek. I then ask her in Korean if she speaks English and she says no and then I eject after wishing her a fun night. Thoughts: I enjoyed this opener. It was the first time a Korean girl looked genuinely pleased or intrigued that I opened her. Unfortunately I got super nervous speaking in Korean and gave up too early. She was walking super slow, so I had plenty of time and she seemed captive to what I had to say. But again, I lack much substance beyond the initial opener. DAY 5 In the afternoon I walk around Myeongdong and this time there's heaps of girls walking around (so daytime is definitely better than late at night). I see a cute girl with a blue face mask and straight away I know she's not a local based on her face mask. Koreans never wear the blue surgical mask. I chase her down over a block and then ask her if she's from China as we walk side by side. She takes her air pods off and again I have to repeat myself. She is surprised that I speak Chinese. She's a college student in Seoul and we chat for 5 minutes as we continue walking. Although we chat and I am leading the conversation, at no stage do I feel like I've completely hooked her. I get her WeChat but I don't really have a good pretext for getting her contact details. Anyway, we add each other. Later I notice that her WeChat profile picture is an average looking college guy (probably also from China) and her moments make it look pretty clear that she has a BF. I still message her but she says sorry, her BF thinks its not convenient to talk. Thoughts: Speaking in Chinese comes more natural to me than speaking English for some reason. But I need to improve the lead-up to getting a girl's contact details and even seed a reason to start a chat with her later, like mentioning an anime or a funny youtube video etc to which I can send a link for later. DAY 6 Relocate in the morning to Sinchon after feeling pretty disappointed with the quality and quantity of girls in Myeondong. During my first lunch here I go to a noodle bar and sit a few seats away from two college-age Korean girls. Super cute! I eat my noodles while trying to understand their conversation. Then they start talking about learning English and they say a few set phrases in English as one was explaining to the other the meaning. At this stage I want to jump in but there's another person sitting in between us. So I get up and get a second cup of water (even though I already have one full glass). The next time they use an English phrase I compliment them from behind about their English pronunciation being really good. Their reaction was a little bit surprised because I was standing behind them and my voice came out of nowhere. They shyly said thank you but based on the awkward start I excuse myself and return to my seat. In the afternoon I go to a coffee shop full of college girls studying. One girl sat next to me while I was there and it was obvious that she wanted to talk to me. We chatted and she gave me a bag of candy, random I know, lol. Her English wasn't that good but we chatted a little bit in Korean, Japanese, and English. But then she mentions she has a BF in the UK and he hasn't answered her message because he's asleep. That threw me off a bit about mentioning her BF. She was small and slim but not all that hot and there seemed something a little bit off about her so I didn't even ask for her Kakao. I'm not exactly sure what her intentions were, but hey, got some free candy!! Reflection: Today was good because I found a cafe and a noodle bar that will increase my surface area for bumping into girls without only having to prowl the streets looking for a target. My approach in the noodle bar was weak, though. I need to back myself more to get past the awkwardness and progress the interaction. DAY 7 Back at the noodle bar. This time there's a very attractive Asian girl sitting alone but she doesn't seem Korean. I sit two seats away from her and eventually I ask her if she's Chinese. She quite emphatically says OMG Yes! How did you know? in a Cali girl accent. She was born in China but grew up in America. We have a good chat but towards the end of the interaction she asks how I knew she was Chinese. My answer was "Oh well, Korean girls don't usually have lunch by themselves," which was my actual line of thinking. I have noticed this, especially among hot girls. Now, as you might imagine, this came across as a neg and she didn't particularly like it but we got past it and I changed the topic. A minute or two later she gets up to go to class. Before she goes, she asks me how long I'm in town for and then I ask to get her WeChat. She says she doesn't check WeChat regularly but she suggests Instagram. I ask her ID, but she then asks for my ID, and she then proceeds to follow me. Reflection: I liked this girl and I'm looking forward to lining up a coffee or something with her. The way she asked "How long are you in town for" was a nice transition in to next exchanging contact details -- as I honestly was struggling to manouver to that point. What she said was so simple but I'm so socially inept right now, it would never have occurred to me. So I will have to bookmark that line. Also, I don't know, maybe I should have mentioned grabbing a coffee someday or seeded a D2 before she left? DAY 8 The American Chinese girl from the day before unfollowed me before I got around to following her and sending her a message. Now have no way of contacting her! Fuck... I should have made an effort on the same day I met her. Also wondering if my Instagram is particularly bad or whether that accidental neg came back to hurt me. Will never know I guess! Frustrating but live and learn. If I see her at the noodle bar again, what angle should I take? Joke about her unfollowing me or just ignore that it ever happened? I didn't end up opening today. Partly cos I had other plans and time got away from me with other stuff. I broke my daily streak but I'm still happy with my progress so far. I'm getting past my AA which is good. But, I still have a long way to go in properly engaging Korean girls and my Korean speaking also needs a lot of work. I probably need to plan more past the opener in terms of what I want to say and I rely too much on asking the girl questions rather than monologing or at least making assumptions about her and what she's doing. I also realize that I need to up my daily approaches to about 5-10 rather than my customary one. Easier said than done. I think I still have a lot of AA to get past in order to hit that daily number. But I know it's what I need to do next. More reps is also more practice, which is what I need right now.2 points
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You don't need a TEFL course to teach English in Asia, you just need a Uni degree. That's the minimum requirement. If you have a Master's then you could potentially teach at a Uni. What really matters is the country you want to go to. Seoul, South Korea has one of the best pickup communities but it's notoriously difficult there. Japan is a good midway, not nearly as difficult, really quality women, and nice lifestyle. But it's expensive and the community there isn't so great, so you'd often be picking up alone. Shanghai and Chengdu, China are pretty good. Nice quality women, low expensese, good community. But you have to have a certain fortitude to handle mainland China. Taipei, Taiwan is ok if you want primarily one night stands, but like Japan, the community isn't that great for pickup. So I'd boil it down to where you want to go. Weigh the pros and cons of each place, or you can also ask our opinion and we'll give you our feedback. Japan and Seoul need the highest initial savings and the highest quality of life. Seoul needs more upfront money but isn't so expensive over the longterm while Japan is more expensive overall. China is the best option on a tight budget. I didn't mention Southeast Asia which aren't bad choices either, if you care more about lifestyle and climate and want the women to be more receptive to your advances.2 points
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Congrats bro, and welcome! The most important next step here is follow-up — make sure you keep up the habit of doing approaches after your bootcamp, every single day if possible, especially for the first 30-60 days. Set a quota, whether it's 5 approaches a day, 3 approaches a day, or even 2 or 1 approaches a day — most important thing is building the habit. It's hard to do and takes will-power, but if you do this immediately following your bootcamp, it will lock in all the lessons you learned throughout the weekend. Guys who don't do this will typically wind up 3-6 months later in basically the same place as they started, except with a distant memory of this one weekend where they temporarily had the ability to approach girls ? So to make sure you get the best value out of the training, make sure you're diligent about putting a follow-up daily approach program in place. It's hard (having a friend to do it with helps immensely), but this is the best gift you can give yourself of the future!2 points
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Actually it is good that yoga88 requires super low maintenance so I do not use up a lot of money and time and also could easily slide in some other girl too. Just gotta figure out when...best ASAP kkk!2 points
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Sun 17 Feb ShinChoc and his french club promoter guy, as well as Limonaide and co. wanted to do some night game. We met at Playhouse at 11 or 12, moved to the area with all the clubs we visited during the sex seminar This was about half a week ago before I turned into a mess of phlegm and pain, I'm pretty sure I forgot a lot of the decent sets I had Playhouse I believe Limonaide and co. arrived first and we went in to open some before ShinChoc arrived. Limonaide wants me to open a set (thanks for keeping me always going man), and it looks like a 2 set, 3 or 4 minutes at the coat check probably. Handshakes and spins, bring in Limonaide quickly. FORGOT LOGISTICS DISCOVERY. My girl wechat closes me. We go in and I feel weird dancing again so I go open some sets that are dancing on the tall bench things, most don't really hook or I realize that upon her turning around, I'd rather pursue other sets. Might have had a couple decent opens on the dancefloor, I don't remember ShinChoc arrives and we go outside to talk a bit. He was the one who actually got me to do a dancing open during the sex seminar, and was pretty much my inspiration for my silly dance opens haha. Silly open a set or two. I find the 2 set from earlier, it's actually a 3 (5?) set with their friends, a couple, wandering in and out. My girl waves, I come back into set and proceed with the goofy dancing. Tonight there are actually a lot of drops in volume in the music, sometimes for effect, sometimes because they want to pretend everyone's singing even though the place isn't nearly that packed. I can actually hear her "you're really good at dancing!" I almost lose it laughing. Big body language and no regard for other peoples' opinions is apparently enough of an attraction trigger to seem good at dancing ?. Limonaide reopens his girl, Danny wants me to introduce him to the other girl (the one with the boyfriend, not the other single one, it was a weird situation or I hadn't understood the set yet) I yelled, "this is my other brother" and then pushed them both towards each other (this is in a line formation so it doesn't cut anyone off really Stay in this set 45 minutes to 1 hour+. Got a lot of IOI's from other girls during this set but I wanted to run it long. Danny comes up to me to suggest I isolate after probably 10 or 15 minutes. Right. I ask my girl if she wants to go somewhere we can hear better. I'm sweating so she thinks it's probably a good idea. We go to the bar and I get a water, I think I just ask for 2 without thinking and give her one haha. Limonaide and his friend come in with their respective girls (the other 2 single ones from the set.) Limonaide positions perfectly, his girl back to back with mine. I start with some small talk and that was fun and answering comfort questions while I wrack my brain trying to remember what my routine stack is. Decide to throw in some more DHV's because why not. She mentions a couple times that she's really attracted to me, I alternate between "I know" and "that's good, I like you too." She wants to try skydiving, don't know what other qualification I did. She kept asking to take pictures with me, and took some pictures of me dancing. I know now this is for her vlog (I assume this is fine right? As long as I don't set unrealistic expectations about being bf/gf?). Seed her visiting me in California, cat cafes, park on top of the mall. She asks how many girlfriends I have. 43. WHAT. Yeah! No just kidding none right now. After this I work in how I only like girls who like me, that all 3 of my long term girlfriends slept with me on the first or second date. A little while later she mentions how her last boyfriend cheated and that's why she's at the club. I say that's not okay, you have to at least be honest. Relationships are only good if everyone is keeping each other happy and they care for each other. (Is there a better response to this?) At a few points she talks about how cute she thinks some of the girls are, I try to encourage this. Asking which ones, nodding approvingly, and giving all the smiles and nice's I could. She wants to go dance some more, okay. They tell us 15 minutes before they're leaving at 2, I walk them out. Leading or pushing(directing) my girl if she gets ahead, though I should just lead harder instead of letting them discuss directions to escape the noise box. I take the time going to coat check to make a good last memory, and time bridge cat cafe on Wednesday. She was pretty kino compliant d1 even though I tried to keep from escalating too fast. I was thinking that I didn't want to trigger resistance when I was still adjusting to the environment and getting back into game. I started with the hands and arms, tickled her exposed sides and back sometimes, stuck some tissue paper I caught in the front of her pants, slid my hand up the back of her shirt once, but most kino was on the arms and when getting her to do a silly dance with me. Oh I guess I did spank her at one point, I must really have a thing for that ? Opened a decent amount more sets I think but none were super memorable, one time guys got up in my face and tried putting hands on me pushing my arms down (they couldn't they were either weak of body or spirit) while I tried to ask what the flashing pacifier shaped like a cat was in this one girl's mouth. After about a minute of this and a translation from Limonaide, I smiled and waved bye bye to the pacifier girl. Not sure if these guys were just drunk and belligerent, but even most of the guys who handle guys talking to their girls poorly handle it better than that haha. Or maybe they had seen me going around encroaching on peoples' table space? 5-15 mins. Open one 3 set dancing on a podium by jumping on the outside and pretending I am going to fall. I reach out, save me! Very little reaction. I laugh and say if they don't help me I'll be in trouble, not that they hear it. After a bit of determination I motion I'm coming inside, they let me. I push one like a klutz but more or less recover by helping her back up. I scoot them all over a bit since everyone's sitting on the railing. 3rd girl leaves, she's the one who doesn't want to have anything to do with guys opening her, how do these girls reproduce lol. Okay but seriously how do I open girls like these? Do you just open really softly, or maybe it has to seem a lot more natural? I just smile. Wing doesn't want to come in so I just run the set a while. Compliment one girl's choker. The other ones dress or something. They are both okay attractive and I can't decide, and in my late night mind I just decide to give both attention. At first they seem to feel awkward when I "switch targets" but then after a minute or two they're both smiling a lot and really enjoying it. I know this is only attraction but I wonder if you can keep that up haha. I decide to get more practice and eject. I kiss the hands of the two girls still there and wave goodbyes. Botch a couple opens, ShinChoc, Limonaide, and their friends are not in set either anymore, I ask if they want to head out. Sure. Jump back up and reopen the 3 set again because I thought it'd be better than walking by them. Third girl is back, unhappy lol. A guy turns around, forget what he does but doesn't like me there. Smile at him. Motion to see if ShinChoc wants to join. No. Take the 2 girls hands, shake, deep bow, offer hand to third girl, she moves her hands away before I can even get close. I make an "I didn't need you anyway" face and wave my hand between us. Other 2 think this is funny, but she actually seems kind of sad that I did that. I don't know what to make of this. New theory: she's actually waiting for more validation and wants to feel like the relationship is "natural." I don't know how to affect that though. Other clubs It was late so some of the clubs were outright dead or almost dead. Some really good tips for how to navigate them from ShinChoc though. Open with ShinChoc in a bouncing stage club was going really well until the boyfriend who was right there started trying to make himself known. Good BT spikes on her shirt. ShinChoc mentions after that I should point to myself and not at them when trying to reference something so I don't make them feel nervous. One open I open the guy and ask if the girl behind him is with him. No. He gets up. Took too long? She wants none of it, no English, no Chinese, she gets up and walks away. Last notable open is on a raised platform with a rail slightly higher than the dance floor. Girl is watching. I open poorly asking about her dress. Are you two here together. No. Very little more chat. She steps away. Okay, ShinChoc want a chance? Nah, go again. Hey so are you a princess or something? She walks away entirely. I try to open the other girl (who was actually her friend) She doesn't respond either. I go back after talking to ShinChoc a bit about where to go next. Before we leave he says open her again. I do, she still waves no but she's not actually leaving at this point hahaha. Left for the next venue and eventually did a debrief with ShinChoc over breakfast Things I did well: -I did whatever I wanted on the dance floor and it worked. Come to think of it I do whatever I want pretty well -I didn't hesitate to open at all that I can recall -I got a good timebridge that turned into a d2! -I ran a long set and never really lost too much momentum -I opened obstacles and made the friends like me Things I will improve: -I will always always ALWAYS remember to do logistics discovery early in set (this is basic optimization I can't believe I'm forgetting it) -I will find ways to use social proof even more effectively -I will focus a bit more on my kino escalation/calibration -I will stay in set a little longer in sets I'm not interested in so that it appears I am doing well to other girls who are observing -I will wear appropriate clothing outside and sleep and eat healthy so I don't get a shitty sickness while I should be gaming Realizations: -I have actually gotten a lot better at this! -Guys usually have no idea how to deal with another guy hitting on their girl for some reason, even if they hang out in places where it's hard to tell who's with who -Girls that dress well seem to be more responsive to being opened -Smiles while walking by seem to make opens easier, should have used that more -Other guys pushing you to open makes it a challenge and really makes AA pretty small2 points
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Life Update For those of you who aren’t fully updated with my life. I am currently back in the US to attend my final year of college. Coming out of a serious long-term relationship last year, I’ve just been in a serious funk with women lately. Due to short time that I knew that I was going to be in the US (I have no fucking intention of staying here), I wasn’t really planning on practicing game and just wanted to “find myself” (Yes, I realized how much I sound like a white girl from an upper-middle class family in Northern California.) Right as I was about to go through this hippie phase where I would attempt to finish college with volume and velocity, I had the opportunity to take a boot camp with Mystery. Considering his name recognition as the mentor behind many of the greats of pickup such as JT Tran, RSD Tyler, and Style, I decided to enroll with him as well. And boy was it a…. regrettable decision. I’ll write more of a review on his boot camps on another forum post but essentially, I feel like we learned absolutely nothing new or useful. In short, the first boot camp involved us listening to him recount some of the things that he had said on his old YouTube videos and then practicing openers and negs for 3 days while the second one involved him spending 2 hours teaching me a single magic trick. Additionally, he barely approached at all. Yet, the positive thing that’s come out of this investment is that it has really lit a fire within me to go out and practice consistently. I’ve started to do solo sarging more and also written more FRs than I have. It’s crazy, before, I would go hard under the wing of Kane or go on an anger-induced rampage and then pull then stop. Now, I’ve been going out with more consistency and unsupervised effort than ever before. I’ve literally done 12-hour round-trips to NYC just to find wings and I’ve started going out alone. Yet what has frustrated me is that I’ve not only not pulled, I only achieved but two dates (to be fair one was an instant date with this 1.85m Russian model.) But there has been a silver lining to all this. In terms of my process-orientated goals, I’ve finally been able to deal with my night game anxiety, particularly dance floor game. I’ve started to open sets with breakneck velocity and hooking sets quite well. What’s more, my opener has started to hook with incredible consistently, so I know longer have a fear of not hooking enough. In game was broken down in the 5 stages: open, hook, qualify, comfort, escalate, sexualize. I would give myself a grade of 90% on the first two stages. I am THAT confident (and for those of you that know me well enough, you know I’m almost never assured about anything I do game-related.) Additionally, I’ve been opening and hooking everything from mixed sets to 8 sets in various energy venues from bar area, outside the bathroom/coat check, rooftop patio, live-band, to high-energy techno dancefloors. Additionally, I’ve started to learn with handling various handicaps from wingmen who have AA, going out alone, wingmen that unknowingly AMOG me (his opener to enter my set was “Is my boy harassing yall?”, and lesbian amogs lol. Although I’m definitely having a hard time (especially with escalation and trying too hard) where there are moments where I (thanks to my 95thpercentile neuroticism) question aspect of myself. I’ve forced myself to take a deep breath, forcibly chill the fuck out, and push myself to spend more time going out, drilling in routines, and writing FRs. Turning my exasperated frustration into a proactive obsession. Game Update In terms of my game, it’s definitely fair to say that it’s undergone a massive transformation. Firstly, due to school, I haven’t been done much street game or day game. I’m guessing this might actually be one of the reasons why I’m having a hard time because my strengths and literally 95% of my pulls have all been girls that I’ve met at low energy environments. So, you could say I’m focusing on strengthening my weaknesses. Additionally, the way I use to run game was based heavily on my state whereby I’d naturally DHV myself due to the fact that I was an ABC and that I’ve had really interesting life experiences. All my field reports were super long before because I had a tendency to improvise literally everything I said, and my results were mainly state based. Then after enough of a rampage under the supervision of Kane, I’d somehow get calibrated enough to pull. Now, my game is completely different. I’ve been more heavily diving into the structured routine-based game whereby I just been going out and running routines. Using the same opener, same qualification question, rehearsed negs. My goal so far has just been to rehearse and practice my material so that I can increase the concision of my FRs (and the time it takes to do a single write up), remember my sets with more ease, and become more processes driven. I been forcing myself to be so meticulous to the point every set I’m in I’ve begun to literally run a checklist infield. Here it is: 1. Did I approach sets with volume and velocity? 2. Did I smile and have open body language? 3. Did I do a BT Spike? • You know how I know you are close, you guys make the exact same facial expression • Cool Handshake • Flex for me 4. Did I Neg (Optional) - Scaled • It’s so cute, your nose wiggles when you talk • You have a white eye lash • You have the exact same eyes as my baby brother. He gets all the girls • You are the beauty and the beast rolled up into one • Where the hot girls at? • Some girls that 2 hours get ready, you look like you took 10 minutes • Yes “White eyelash” 5. Did I do my cold read 6. Did I relate their statement to a statement about me that demonstrates value about me? • Leader of Men • Présélection • Protector of Loved Ones • Family Man • Risk Taker • Well Traveled and Cultured • Man of Many Interests 7. Did I attempt Kino (Hug)? • No 8. Did I attempt to Lock-In or Isolation? 9. Did I do a DHV Story? (look below) 10. Did I run a qualification statement? 11. Did I ask for tonight’s logistics? Did I figure out who she’s with? What she is doing? What she’s doing later tonight? 12. Did I check compliance? • Instagram is one 13. Re-Do Steps 4-11 14. Did I state direct male-to-female interest 15. Did I get PIE through mixture of questions and statements • Job • Schedule • Hobbies 2. Did I Seed Date? 16. Did I Time-Bridge? 17. Did I get phone number? 18. Did I attempt Beckster’s Routine (K-Close)? I think one of the reasons why my results have been slower aside from me traveling to multiple environments is the fact that I am undergoing a massive inner game transformation alongside re-organizing my entire technique. It feels a bit constraining for the moment, and I do get brain farts from time to time but hopefully this approach will pay dividends soon. Here Are A List of DHV Stories I Run Now 1. DHV #1: Skydiving in Cancun To Open · What is the most adventurous thing you’ve ever done? (Question) · I feel like the best moments in life are those that are spontaneous. A few years ago, my New Year’s resolution was to do something that scares me. So, my ex-girlfriend at the time was celebrating her birthday, I was like “hey babe what would you want for you present” and she was like “surprise me” So, I booked a trip to Cancun to take her skydiving. To be honest, skydiving scares the crap out of me. Originally the plan was to see the Aztec Ruins because she needed to take photos for her Instagram. Don’t make fun of her, but that’s how she made her living. So that day, she said man the sky looks so beautiful “I wish we could go skydiving.” So, I called, hoping that they wouldn’t answer, because it was getting late. Then they picked up the phone and I was like damn “I guess I’m going skydiving” I kid you not, sky diving was one of the best, most liberating experiences, I’ve ever done. On the way back home, I sat next to another rapper. So, we start doing some rhymes together, and my ex-girlfriend looks at and said, “don’t do it.” The whole plane started looking at us because it was the first time, they’d seen a bilingual freestyle. So, the guy I met on the plane, he’s still one of my good friends, he started his own hedge fund. And sometimes we do business together. Attraction Switches · Pre-Selection · Successful Risk Taker · Ability to Emote (Role Playing) 2. DHV #2: Funny Weight-Loss To Open · You look like you work out a lot? (Question) · I feel like the hardest moments allow you to become who you are. Ever since I was a kid, I’ve always been a mad foodie. So, I ate a lot. When I was a 15, I was 50 pounds overweight. I was so fat, that the doctors diagnosed me as obese. Despite all this, I didn’t see myself as fat. I was quite popular, had tables at exclusive clubs and people treated me really well. Optional Have you ever watched Cheers? Who’s your favorite character? Do you know Norm? I was literally like Norm Because of that, I didn’t really see myself as fat, just a bit chubby. 3. DHV #3: Student Entrepreneur To Open · You look like you work out a lot? (Question) · I feel like the hardest moments allow you to become who you are. Right now, I am an investor, but before I was always an entrepreneur and I came back here from China to move on to new venture. And there’s an interesting story behind it (bait) Optional Girl: What was it? Me: I’ll tell you in a bit My dad is a successful serial entrepreneur and ever since I was 3 years old, I would go into his boardroom meetings. My dad even sent me to the best entrepreneurship school for college. So, I was raised as an entrepreneur. I took a break from college and that was probably the best decision I ever made. I back to China, where I learned French. (pause) I know it’s weird because I’m going to France to learn German. (if she gets it then let her call you out on it) I started a ran entrepreneurship competition for high schoolers all over China. We grew quite quickly in the beginning, like within 5 weeks we made a revenue of 100,000 USD. To be honest, people would think that making money is what makes you happy but what made me happy was the fact that I was able to enable people to make money for themselves and people like my employees had the opportunity to make money for their children. Till this day, one of my favorite things to do is to speak in front of audiences and empower them to pursue their dreams, to start something. Extension · True Happiness Dalian · Ability to Emote Attraction Switches · Leader of Men · Successful Risk Taker 4. DHV #4: Opener a. If I was going to die and, on lying my deathbed, and I was going to have my last meal what would you make me? i. And chocolate covered strawberries with whip cream doesn’t count b. If I was going to wake up in the morning to your cooking, what would you make me? i. By the way, I’m judging you based on your answer. ii. If I don’t like it, you’re not spending the night. If I ever called my grandma a cook, she’d slap me. “It’s chef” My food still isn’t as good as my grandma’s2 points
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Field Report: Hardest Weekend Since I Started Gaming Again Context: For those of you that know me, you know my story. For those that need further context, I had gotten out of a long-term exclusive relationship back in May and it had messed head. Afterwards, I had a chance to learn from Mystery and take a bootcamp with him. Prior to that, I was very inconsistent at game. I would go out hard with Kane for 7 nights straight and end up getting a lay but afterwards I would either voluntarily or involuntarily mess up with my own progress. Due to my weird life situation, I've rarely settled down to a set routine or even city for more than 3 months so I lost a lot of the momentum that I needed to propel me forward. Anyways, after having taken a bootcamp from Mystery (it wasn't all that great to be honest) I just felt a sudden fire light up on my ass which compelled me to go out and game consistently. Prior to this night, my game momentum was flowing and I was hooking sets on a regular basis as well as get very compliant instagram/wechat/number closes so I was quite confident that my game was on an upwards trajectory. At the same time, I felt a sense of nervousness build up in me because I felt a pressure that I HAVE TO BE BETTER EVERY WEEKEND. Currently, I am based in Boston. But due to the winter holidays and Boston being a student town, there isn't much opportunity to go sagging but fortunately a guy from this very community started running masterminds in NYC so I decided to met up with them as well as a new student of Kane's in order to game. Since I've come back to America and learned from Mystery, my game is acclimating to the environment so it is becoming more westernized and I had forgotten the grind of plowing through avoidant Fobby Asian girls. Anyways, I went too Mission Nightclub (a NYC-based nightclub that literally felt like a miniature reincarnation of Seoul's Octagon) and I was so shocked by the types of reactions that I got from girls that I kind of fucked me in the head a bit and I started questioning my game and myself. The second night I went to a western nightclub called 230 Fifth in New York but due to the mind fuck from Friday night my mental state wasn't right which affected my delivery. Anyways, here is my field report from last weekend - the most difficult weekend that I've had in a long, long while. First Night Out: MISSION Nightclub 1. Chinese Set (This was a warm-up set) Going into the nightclub and seeing how different it was from the Western venues coupled with my self-imposed mental pressure to perform at an improve level definitely affected my ability to game with a relaxed mindset. While normally, I would head into the club and approach the first set I see and then go on a sarge rampage, this night I was a bit hesitant. I waited for like 5 minutes and talked to my wing before I could get the courage to make my first approach. At the time I saw a set standing near the entrance and I approached them. Me: "Hey guys! Let me guess you are definitely from China" HB: "Yes!" Me: "Me too!" *high five* ----- should've done a spin Me: "You know how I can tell, you're friend she has a super Shanghai style" HB: "haha haha where are you from?" Me: "Guess!" HB: "China too" Me: "Africa" Thinking back on this I should've been more cheeky and used the said "Africa" in Chinese but next time. Afterwards I am not sure exactly what went down but it's likely that I didn't really know any BT-spikes so that I ended up skipping qualification and going straight to asking comfort interview style questions. I guess my main question and problem from this set was that I didn't really know how to handle the obstacle (I mistakenly didn't bring my wing in because the set hadn't hooked) and I simply didn't know what to do due to a lack of BT spikes. What I could've done with this set was come in with better energy, planned and rehearsed a couple of non-verbal BT-spikes, and then qualified them before I go into my default interview mode style. Thoughts? 2. Korean Big Group Set Completely forgot about this set, so the details are quite blurry. I think I approached the set and opened my girl with "Hey, I had to come over here and introduce myself... because ..it seems to me that... you guys have great energy!" The challenge with this type of opener is that it doesn't seem that suitable for a incredibly loud and high energy club environment. Me: "Hey, I had to come over here and introduce myself... because ..it seems to me that... you guys have great energy!" - I did this to the girl instead of the entire group. (maybe should've done to entire group instead) HB: "Haha thank you!" Me: "Especially you! You are dancing so crazy right now... I can't even.." "Watch this is you!" I then mimicked After I opened with this, I used my body language to mimic a dancing chicken. I high-fives the girl and then attempted to continue a conversation with her. During this set I think I brought my wing in but he didn't really hook and the friend then dragged my target onto the dance floor. Afterwards, I approached this girl later on but it was very strange. I was asking a comfort question and she responded and she was constantly giggling but at the same time she was like "I need to go!" "I need to go!" which kinda confused me. I had approached and spoken to the male friend as well as the female friend and they were "ok" with me, even kind of friendly but this girl was just walking away and giggling. 3. Two Set of Koreans Smoking Outside I simply cold read that they were from Korea saying that their fashion reminded me of the girls in Gangnam and then explaining how they weren't like Hyundae girls. This set got interrupted by the bouncer and the obstacle ended up dragging my target back into the club. 4. Kiss-Close Set This I think was my third of fourth set. I wanted to grab and drink because I was getting thirsty. During the bar I saw a cute two set, originally, I wanted to go to the friend who was hotter, but I ended going an error in my opening caused me to end up with the less attractive one. Despite this, I still decided to continue gaming because I wanted to run my routine stack. Me: “Hey! My friend Jackson, he’s quite shy, but he thinks you are incredibly cute.” HB: “Thank you!” Me: “Let me bring him over.” I took two steps back, did a salsa turn, and walked back in. Me: “Hi! My I am the friend!” HB: “Hello!” Me: “I came over here because I thought you guys have really great energy!” HB: “Ha-ha Thank you!” Me: “From your fashion, I can definitely tell that your Chinese” HB: “ha-ha yes I am” Me: “Me Too!” *high fived her* Me: “Where in China are you from? You look from Inner Mongolian” *I said this because she was short and girls from inner Mongolia are quite tall. HB: “Ha-ha no I am from Ningbo!” Me, my face lit up because I’m from nearby: “No way! I am from Shanghai so happy to find my East China buddy. So, I guess you must be an amazing rice cake chef” At this moment, my wingman came in and hooked the friend. Although he wasn’t able to get her to stay for a very long time and left, the friend literally just left her to me. Me: “Ha-ha so I am actually here celebrating my birthday!” HB: “That’s the reason I am here, it’s my friend’s birthday!” Me: “Oh happy birthday to her! What did you guys do?” HB: “blah blah blah.. and you!” Me: “Yes! I had one of the best cakes ever. My friends Laria, Sara, and Fifi took me to this high-end French restaurant” I then took out my phone and proceeded to show her pictures of the food culminating with the birthday cake, which was a cake that was lit on fire.” HB: “Wow that looks really good!” Me: “Yea, it was one of the best high-end French restaurants I’ve ever been to. For your friend, she should definitely go here for her cake…. What kind of food do you like?” Afterwards, I essentially ran comfort and qualification on her. The cool thing was that I was super in the moment that I had completely forgotten about gambits and even structure. I just was genuine and only focused on Kino-escalation. I found out that she grew up in Flushing which I then noted its where all the best Asian restaurants are. While this wasn’t specifically a DHV fact, it was definitely a comfort statement. By having this knowledge, she definitely felt more of a connection. Afterwards, we joked about how it was nearly impossible to find legit spicy Asian food on the East Coast and I future projected that we would eat hot pot together. Then we exchange stories about “many growing up” which I also related towards her because she had moved to America in her teens. This story helped us build a shared connection again. By this time my hand was on her back and I was slowly going down to the area right above her butt. After we had reached this moment, WeChat (number) closed her. During this process, I realized that I had been in set for a good 20 minutes, so I decided to run my DHV story followed by Beckster’s routine. DHV Story A years ago, my New Year’s resolution was to do something that scares me. So, my ex-girlfriend at the time was celebrating her birthday, I was like “hey babe what would you want for you present” and she was like “surprise me” So, I booked a trip to Cancun to take her skydiving. To be honest, skydiving scares the crap out of me. Originally the plan was to see the Aztec Ruins because she needed to take photos for her Instagram. Don’t make fun of her, but that’s how she made her living. So that day, she said man the sky looks so beautiful “I wish we could go skydiving.” HB: “Wow, I want to go skydiving with my boyfriend” Me: “Your boyfriend?” HB: “I mean my future boyfriend!” Me: “You have great taste” *high fived and then held her hand* So, I called, hoping that they wouldn’t answer, because it was getting late. Then they picked up the phone and I was like damn “I guess I’m going skydiving” I kid you not, sky diving was one of the best, most liberating experiences, I’ve ever done. On the way back home, I sat next to another rapper. So, we start doing some rhymes together, and my ex-girlfriend looks at and said, “don’t do it.” The whole plane started looking at us because it was the first time, they’d seen a bilingual freestyle. So, the guy I met on the plane, he’s still one of my good friends, he started his own hedge fund. And sometimes we do business together. Following this story, I was pushing my Kino levels to where my hand was firmly placed on the small opening of her dress on her lower back. I used to get nervous about maintaining this type of Kino, but for this time I could easily tell based her based on her compliance as well as noticeable IOIs that this girl was definitely into me. Afterwards, I decided to run Beckster’s routine. Beckster’s Routine Part 1 (Pre-Opener) I was chatting with my friend (NAME) and we were trying to decide. To be wanted or needed? (Point to self on the wanted, push away the needed) Girl: Blah, Blah, Blah Oh why? She will think more. She has to feel what’s better. I want my friends, my lover to want me. (Point to self) The only people you need is your family. In your mind, do you think you’d want your lover more or need your lover more?? It’s a two-part question before I go Attraction (Self) or Desire (Trail hands up slowly) Girl: Answer Why (Smiley and Gesture)??? Girl: Blah The way I see it, if you go around the room, (hand on shoulder misdirect them) there are some people you are attracted to (self-point) but few people you really desire. Don’t you think? Girl: Yes I’m glad you agree (shake hand, eye contact) (then spin and lock in) Who they he’ll are you? Girl: Blah Blah (Qualify) Part 2 (Insert HB Name) it’s really strange. Before I get to know someone deep inside (lock hands), I got three criteria that I normally go by, but I can only tell if you opened and friendly. Are you? (Cross arms, lean back, smile a bit) I don’t like girls that wear a lot of make-up. Put a kiss there You passed or failed (depending on bitchiness) I love girls with lush smelling hair. (Put thumb up behind air, lean in, smell and take deep breath. Sometimes they reciprocate. If based on flushes skin, pupil dilation, dinner bowl doggy eyes. GO FOR KISS, If not push away) I ended up getting the make-out. I then further isolated her. But here is where I fucked myself up. I had forgotten to ask her what her plans were. I felt like I really should’ve tried bouncing her or at least seeding at meet at the end of her night. After we continued to make out with a bit. Below is my part 3 which I actually didn’t run because we just started making out. Afterwards, I was kind of flustered from this positive result so I didn’t really know where to go on afterwards. Part 3 I need trust, comfort, and connection before I go that far. And I only have lust at the moment. I see this is going to be a love hate relationship: you would love me and I’d hate you I love girls with good taste in shoes. But do you know why? Good shows indicate good taste in underwear. Trail your hand up through her body (non-touching, Lock-in Body Language That’s strange you have got the second-best shoes on tonight’s Girls: who’s the first? Me: Me And there’s a fourth (conspiracy Style), but I need to tell special people. Are you special? Mini-solation within club I won best kisser in university, two years in a row. I only kiss girls who are good kissers. (Pull girls hands so that she’s holding onto my waste, your hands are off) What are you? 1-10 Girl: Blah Blah Kiss Roll off after kiss: I’ll be back soon, if not, wait longer. We went to the corner to talk for a bit. Then two males came up to talk to her. Because I had thought that they all knew each other, I kind just sat back and chilled. I actually decided to befriend one of the dudes who said that the three were high-school friends. Although I believed this, I definitely should’ve asked the girl or at least prevented what might’ve been an AMOG. In this case I should’ve approached to the AMOG and said: “Hey! Nice to meet you I’m Jackson, me and HB were just talking about xyz” Then probably should’ve done a BLP to turn her away and then asked the girl whether they knew the guys or not. Instead, they seemed to be in conversation, so I decided to ditch the set. Alright there’s a messed-up trend coming where I prematurely eject sets due to a fear of not knowing what to do next. It’s between a mindset problem as well as a material problem. Because I feel like I need material for the whole night, when I finish running my routine I literally turn off. What I really should’ve done was simply danced more with the girl as well as run more comfort before attempting to pull her. I promise I will no longer let this happen again. My foot has been shot enough at my own accord. 5. Korean Three-Set I saw a three-set of Koreans standing next to the bar. At this moment, I was still quite energized and attempted to open with the same opener that I used earlier with the Chinese girl I made out with. After this I walked up to the three and said. Me: “Hey! My friend Jackson, he’s quite shy, but he thinks you are incredibly cute.” HB: “Thank you!” Me: “Let me bring him over.” I took two steps back, did a salsa turn, and walked back in. Me: “Hi! My name is Jackson!” HB: “Hahah! Go away!” Me, I was in a playful mood at this moment, so I kept on plowing. Me: “I came here because... I thought you guys had really great energy… You guys look like fun! “ HB: “Leave us alone!” Me: “What?! Stay here, I’m amazing?! Well thank you!” HB: “Hahahah” Me: “Based on your I’m guessing you are Korean! You remind me of the girls I’ve seen at Burning Sun (Korean Nightclub)” I then did a playful mimic whereby I danced like chicken and pointed to her suggesting she danced like that. The entire set started cracking up and then I decided to take the time, to talk to the obstacle using her to tease my set. Me to the obstacle, pointing to my target: “She must be the craziest one!” HB: “Ha-ha no! Leave my friends alone! Are you Korean?” HB: “Korean” Me, “yes and mentality”: “Hello (in Korean)” The girls then started speaking Korean to me, but I then told them that “I’m not Korean” HB: “Where are you from?” Me: “Guess!” *I crossed my arm and gestured her to body scan me* HB: “I don’t know!” Me: “I am from… Africa” HB then laughed, turned to her friend and then the entire set laughed Afterwards I think I skipped qualification and attempted to run the “attraction or desire routine” but I’ve realized that it’s incredibly difficult in a loud environment therefore I ended up premature ejecting. Right when I turned away I felt her touch my arm but for some reason I didn’t reopen. This set went well, but the numerous joking rejections I got really fucked with my head as well causing me to prematurely eject the set. Looking back on it I really should’ve pushed myself a bit harder in staying and plowing until the set is dead. Looking back on this I realized that one of the things that I did really well in this set was the fact that I came in with a strong and solid frame, was playful, and engaged in a bit of role-playing. Because I use to do acting, role-playing is actually one of my natural strengths, but I realized that in game, when I get all up in my head, I stop doing that. Yet, whenever I do, I get a lot better reactions because I role-play in a teasing, fun way. 6. HB Mini-Korea: To Be Wanted or Needed? - To be Avoided She came into the bar while I was standing there to get drinks. She had accidentally bumped into me, so I thought of a good BT situational open Me: “You should definitely be a football player” Her: “What? You are a football player?” Me: “No! I meant to say that you should definitely be a football player. When you came you bumped into me and I went flying” (I took a few step back to mimic the action) Her: “ha-ha No I didn’t” Me: “Uh huh you did!” Her: …. (Cold non-reaction typical of FOBBY sets) Me, at this point I thought I would try throwing in a neg: “Wow, you know what you are the beauty and the beast all rolled up in one!” Her: ….no reaction… At this point, I wasn’t really hooking the set and so I started to get all up in my own head. Instead of being playful and actually having a good time, I was quite stagnant, and I had forgotten an improv principle that would’ve been good for pick-up, the notion of “Yes And.” What I could’ve done instead was a BT-Spike where I insisted, she was very strong and made her flex for me and joke how she’s got the perfect mix of cute and dangerous (beauty and the best.) For me, whenever my set isn’t going well, I start to get all up in my head and then start going to my default mode which would be asking interview questions. I had tried to cold read that she was a student to which she said no and then at that point I was stumped so I attempted to run Beckster’s gambit. Me: Alright so before I go back to my friend, there’s this one question I have to ask? What do you think is more important to be wanted or needed? Her: AVOIDED! And then she just walked away. This set really fucked with my head because I’ve never had that harsh of a rejection before and, to be honest, it still is. 7. Thank You Rejections This actually has been a common problem that I’ve had with the great energy opener. Essentially what happens is that I open with my great energy opener and run a cold read (neg or BT-spike if needed) but it is met with a continuous stream of cold “Thank yous”. This confuses me. Me: “Hey… I just wanted to come over here… and introduce myself… it seems like you guys have really good energy!” Her: “Thank you!” *cold* Me: “Yes it’s the most authentic I’ve seen… Her: “Thank you!” Me: “Let me guess, based on your dancing style… you guys are from… Korea” *maybe should’ve said Africa* Her: “Thank you” Then I tried stacking other gambits, but it was met with a cold thank you, when I then attempted to stack to Beckster’s wanted or needed routine. The girl dragged her friend and left. My belief about this is that it’s either a problem with my delivery or my structure In retrospect, I may have run this way too fast and said: “Hey I came over here and say that I think you have great energy.” All in a single sentence. I have a tendency to talk incredibly quickly and ramble (more on that later) so maybe that’s a reason it didn’t hook. 8. Bartender Interrupt This was what I had learned from the debrief immediately after the night 5 Things You Did Well 1. I Went for the Kiss Close a. Yes, although for super Fobby Asians this is a big no-no. I just really wanted to get over my mental block of going for make-outs in clubs because it has led me to fear going for make outs in any other settings including day 2s. While I am upset I lost the girl, she was hot enough for me outweigh the mental block that I needed to get over.This is a serious mental block, like I was afraid of kiss closing all my exes even when we were in bed already. 2. I ran my DHV story once which led to positive response 3. I was highly aware of IOIs from the girl and did compliance testing 4. The Korea 3 Set, I came in with a strong frame and incredibly good energy. Additionally, I kept on plowing for a little bit. 5. I attempt to adjust my energy to approach in order to figure out what works 6. I compliance tested her and isolated her a few times 5 Things I Need to Improve On 1. Better Openers in order to hook ESL girls (Flash Game) 2. Volume and Velocity - After getting blown out consistently I was really confused and started second guessing myself. Next time I will simply go on a super rampage. Rejection means I need to approach the next set 3. At times, I think that I may have come off quite gamey where I’m just throwing in gambits seeking some sort of positive reaction. 4. I was quiet when my sets got interrupted, next time I’ll just continue stacking and stacking 5. Body language and vocal tonality, at times, girls struggle to understand me 6. Plowing more, like that mini Korean girl I should’ve just continued with her and BT spikes instead of negs 7. Bring my wing sooner in our sets rather than attempt to go at it solo 5 Realizations 1. Plow Plow Plow 2. Fobby Asian Game is different from Western game in terms of energy level and technique 3. You need to befriend the group, with complements 4. The one who approaches the set is the more loved one 5. The power of having a stack so that you know what to do next2 points
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So from Daygame , I met her . she is 4 on my scale. She is around 30, travelling Chengdu alone, staying in a hotel. It was quite easy to get her on the D2. So, I decided to go on the date because I wanted to practice my D2. Today, around 3:30, we met near subway which is nearby a temple. We walked in to the temple. She was friendly though she was very shy and nervous. We were communicating through translator. After walking for some minutes, she took me to dinner. On the dinner, I was trying to build the conversation. She was responsive but most of the qualifying questions I asked, she avoided. Also she was not responsive to kino. She paid for the Dinner. After Dinner, she asked me to visit another temple. By that time, I was unable to carry the conversation. Every way, I tried to start the conversation, she was not willing to join. I was looking for body language cues to see if she was bored or something. So after reaching the second spot, I decided to push my kono further. Suddenly, she was responsive to the Kinos. So I led her by taking her hand in the crowd. After visiting the second spot, we were walking towards the subway to get back home. This time she was holding my hand when we were crossing the road. I understood, for some girls, it takes more time to get comfort. Then I thought may be on the next date, I will get her more responsive. So I said to her that I still owe you for the dinner treat. I invited her for coffee on another day. She said okay. Things I have done better: 1. I used body language more often to make her understood what I was saying 2. Took the risk to push the Kino further Things I could do better: 1. Building more comfort and attraction 2. I was afraid of kinoing her. I need to overcome that. 3. My sexual projection was not that good2 points
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I've recently started using productivity resources and I've been surprised at how effective they are. All the ideas basically came from http://www.lifehack.org which I highly recommend to anyone who wants to become more productive. The resources I've started using: Keep Focused http://keepfocused.codeplex.com/ - A very simple Pomodoro Timer for windows. The Pomodoro technique is a technique for working 25 minutes on and 5 minutes off with a longer break every 100 minutes. I've found that when I get started working it's hard for me to stop and I have to force myself to take a break. I may try switching to another timer that lets you adjust the amount of time you work and are off, but this suits my needs so far and it keeps a record of what you spent the time working on. Focus@will https://www.focusatwill.com/ - A really good music program for focusing on your work. I was really surprised at how well it helped me focus on the work I was doing and was often the reason I went over on my Pomodoro period. The free version lets you listen to a particular section for 1 hour (but there's no pause so it'll start over if you stop it), there's plenty of sections so you should have enough to last the day. You can also try the free trial. Also available for smartphones. Evernote http://www.evernote.com - A really great notebook program that syncs across all your devices. I use it to record quick notes and other memos and can check it anywhere at anytime. I'm still looking for a good scheduler/reminder type program where I can record my goals for the day and set up simple to-do lists that check up with me if I've done them. Will update this post when I find something I like. Have a great program or system YOU use? Share it here so we can all benefit and exalt your genius!2 points
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Anthony de Mello is an indian Jesuitian Priest. The talk I am reviewing is held in front of a fairly young adience, not necessarily your typical church audience. He starts off by explaining the importance of listening. He found out that it doesnt make sense to try to teach somebody who doesnt want to listen. He uses a lot of stories and metaphors to get his point across. He tells the story of an indian guy who only has 6 months to live. Those 6 months were the happiest time of his life. Anthony de Mello emphasises that your life is in a mess if you dont enjoy every second of it. Every upset and every form of negativity inside of you means that your life is in a mess. He tells another story of guy who goes to a tribe in South Africa. The land of that tribe has a lot of diamonds, the natives dont know how precious they are. So they give him a basket full of those diamonds. He sells the diamonds and uses the money to buy the land from the tribe and becomes the richest man in the world afterwards. ADM says we often dont know what precious things we already posses. A metaphor for our life and that we dont know how precious that alone is. "The more occupied we are with something, the more we forget" is what we says. A fisherman finds a box on the beach one night. It is full of flat stones. He playfully throws them in the water not really checking what they are. When the sun begins to rise, he sees that those are diamonds.He only has a few left. A metaphor to that we often dont know how precious our life is, so we throw it away beeing upset, refusing to listen and beeing unhappy. A man is standing in the ocean. There are waves that make beeing there inconvinient. He asks people to make the waves stop somehow. He could just get out of the water but he refuses to. ADM says that we often want to stay in our bad state. We want to be miserable. You dont have to do anything to be happy. A crazy thought, ADM says. Beeing happy is crazy for the average person. He also talks about dependance in relationship. Beeing attached to another person leads to beeing unhappy. True love is not beeing attached to somebody. "I dont want to be happy. I wanna be miserable with you." "The route to sorrow is desire, so we must be desirelessness" "The route to sorrow is attachment, so we must be attachmentless" He tells another story of an african tribe that had no fear about things that didnt happen. Why would they worry about something that is not? Its like fish that is afraid of drowning. Beeing upset doesnt do anything. Because reality is not upsetting. It is the human that is making us upset, or our "programming" as he calls it. Then he goes back to the attachment topic. We should not be attached to be people. Even if they die, there is no real reason for suffering. I would probably disagree with that, it is a nice thought to be so unattached and present in the moment, but if we are honest...I dont think any of us would proceed that event like ADM tells us to. "We shall never be upset. Reality is not upsetting. The human mind is what is making you upset." If a person is making you upset, that means you are punishing yourself for other people's mistakes. That doesnt make any sense for ADM. In that context he tells a story about a man who always bought his newspaper from an unfriendly kiosk. When he was ask why he does that he answered that the unfriendly kiosk owner doesnt get to decide where he buys his newspaper. He just didnt get upset about it. Another story about beeing not attached: A man gives another man a diamond. The man becomes rich, but quickly is in doubt about himself and the situation. He returns to the other man and says "could you give me the riches that made you give this away so easily?" Meaning: We are already happy if we are unattached to all external things. Attachment is a false belief emphasises ADM. In my personal opinion "A rediscovery of life" is somehow similar to Eckhart Tolle's teachings. Both is about letting go and not beeing attached to what is externally happening to you. Also the programming of the mind is not to be trusted and therefore also our emotions. I think Eckhart Tolle is a little more practical because you also have the act of mediation coming with it. ADM also makes it seem like what he preaches is super easy to apply but I want to see someone not beeing upset when somebody close dies. I also dont really relate to his persona to be honest and his clownish tonality and way of presenting things, but he might be just a really happy guy. ShinChoc can really relate to the guy, which is good for him but probably wouldnt have watched reviewed the whole video without his recommendation. I will try to be less attached to the outcome and the result while learning game and try to not be emotional about everything. Also I will try to be less upset about external influences like noise or people beeing rude. Things you get a lot here in China. So I guess in the end the video did something for me and I should thank ShinChoc for that. It had some impact but nmaybe not the same as for him.2 points
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mini fr: tuesday night out with danny we went out to lan kwai fong. goal was 3 approaches , at least one on the dancefloor. not a lot to approach in revolution, too many mixed sets. we went to jellyfish. danny told me i should be more concrete with my routine, bc i often dont know what to do or say. on the way to jellyfish i approached a group of mediocre xinjiang girls. asked which club the best is. in jellyfish i approached some girls danny choose me to approach. then he wanted me to dancefloor aproach via some hip movement which really is not my kind of style i noticed quickly. so,.i approached a lot if random sets on the dancefloor just asking if they speak chinese. got some laughs but didnt pursue anything further. outside i approached a girl that was interested in mine and dannys conversation. reapproached her later also and got the wechat. HB7 from harbin. we left soon after that. i approached 10-12 sets that night. so a lot more then i expected. main reason was danny constantly pushing to do stuff. thx for that.2 points
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September 2017, almost a year ago, I met HB Tantan Lee over Tantan and we quickly had a D1 in Shenzhen. She just got off work, ran the date with a typical dinner and a movie. Kinoed right off the bat with a hand on her waist and sometimes switching it up to hand over the shoulders. Nothing special happened during the D1, drove her back home which was super far from her work place. She has to take a 1.5 hours subway ride to commute to work, everyday. You can imagine the distance from her home and her work place. After the D1, vaguely remember the reason why we stopped talking but it might be because lack of attraction, finding ways to close her since she lives far and because she lives far. From my place to get to her's, also requires 1.5 hours drive which I think its not worth the effort if she isn't a top notch looking 9 or a 10. Couple weeks ago, she randomly messaged me and I had totally forgotten who she was. During the time we haven't spoken a word, I formatted my phone several times due to phone hardware issues and all chat history was lost. I didn't bother backing up the chat logs of the girls I wasn't speaking to at the moment and she didn't have selfies pictures on her moments so I had no idea who she was. I had told her that i do not remember who she was (bad move btw) for two reasons, for girls I don't lable as "ping" on their Wechat description, I know they aren't the top notch 9's and 10's and also I because had a full pipeline. My reactions were careless and therefore I would be more direct with girls. If she had decided to eject the conversation, I would be fine because I am the type of guy that would hate to reject women. In fact, my direct replies or cold replies would automaticly filter them out, cause y'all know, Mr. Ballz Deep is busy going Deep Inside. After her inital ping to get my attention, we stopped chatting for a week. It was during the time HB Hong Kong Milf was giving me a hard time and ignoring me, again, I had thought of her. I started up the chat again and she knew I wanted to bang. For my first attempt to set a meet, she would reply something like "Lets meet another time, because i am on period." Thats when you know that shes down and that she knows what I am thinking. Over text, I kept reinforcing that having sex on the period is okay but she wasn't down for it at all. Anyways, i stopped that thread and if she was not being easy, i wouldn't make myself available for her. We finally scheduled a day where we both think her period would end, Sunday. It's Sunday, I messaged her the time to meet and asked her to send me location so I can pick her up. She mentions that she still on period but I had to meet up with her because I was eager to see her and also she was going to be out of town for the next couple days after Sunday for a family vacation. I told her its okay no problem. Met up, typical dinner then movie. Pulled out my Movie routine, sat at the upper right corder, the two seater since the theater was already full where no one could sit beside us because on my right would be the hallway and on her left would be the wall, started feeling her Sugar Wallz under her panties and grabbing and playing with her titties and nipples. Tons of hard resistants all throughout the movie, it was no easy task, so i had to use force to dig my hands under those panties. It was no easy task, trust me. That's when I noticed that she wasn't wearing a pad nor a tampon. Didn't she say she was on her period! LMR right there. After the movie, as she came out of the bathroom I asked her if she was on her period because I couldn't feel her Tampon and my fingers weren't bloody after going semi in her Sugar Walls (she was resisting really hard fighting with my hands and trying to pull my hands away). She said she's still on her period. As we leave the mall, down to the underground parking lot, to my car, right before she entered, i told her to sit in the back seat, she was like "No!" then i was like "why, not, its comfortable at the back." She went in, and she sat right away, I pushed her inside further, got in, locked the door and started going for the makeout. LMR, so I decided to suck on those tities, she started moaning, with resistance of pulling me off, so i necked her, and tried to pull her pants down. It was so tight that it was impossible to take her pants off. She resisted and quickly insisted of buttoning back the pants on and i forcedfully unbutton them and tried her rip her pants down. She finally gave up and said "Okay, okay, i'll take them off myself." and thats when the magic happened. The exiting thing was there were people walking around the parking lot looking for their cars, sometimes they would walk past my windshield on the side and the front. She was afraid they would see us, I wasn't, just another day at the office. I've had Car Bangs situations before. The most exiting was the one car that was parked right beside mine and they had a couple people there entering and opening their trunks. I knew they couldn't see me cuz luckly the back seat windows are tinted, too bad the front seat windows are not. After the bang, I came quicker than I thought, kissing was so good and she was super wet. We were all sweating because we didn't turn on the car for AC or else people would know that we are doing some crazy shit. She told me that i needed to “加油 ” which is a Chinese term that i needed to improve or do better, that my performance was is insufficient. This is the absolute first time that a girl told Mr. Balls Deep that he needed to improve. I was SHOCKED! I was like Wow, this girl has what it takes to be fully pounded?? This girl must be hardcore because she was demanding that I would thrust faster which hardly any girl would tell me this because I already make girls limp, tired, exhausted after sex! I make girls scared of having sex because my duration and power is something they've never seen before! She must be crazy for sex. Dropped her home, should of future projected the next meet, didn't because she lives super far. Planning to really test her to see how much she can take. Going to project a meet soon and see if shes worth while to keep. Made You Look! Aka. Mr. Balls Deep Aka. The Milf Hunta2 points
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Funny your should ask. You can follow my further antics on The Animal's Winter Weather Hustle. i should write down all this good advice so I don't forget it.2 points
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I thought I had already responded to this :S Lol yeah it was super funny how you found out about me. Game isn't just about 'getting girls' it's about improving how good you are at getting girls and your relationships with them, your social skills, your ability to influence people (because that's what we're really doing here). A lot of guys wanna get good at Game for the sake of Game, a lot more just wanna bang girls they don't really like, you're obviously the former rather than the latter. That feeling of not being able to pull the trigger and not knowing what to say really sucks, it's fantastic you took action to get past that i.e the bootcamp and all the effort you put in during the bootcamp. Yeah!!!!! No. More. Baby. Tiger. That girl in the black dress with the german broski's was so good . Yeah mad respect for sticking to the program. When we're in Korea, mention the 'daddy likes' thing to James and watch how excited he gets . Great. Yeah that was a lot of weirdo's during your bootcamp, i'm not sure why lol. What other openers have you been using since then? The Hand Of God is by far my favourite Pick Up Tech, it's gotten me into so many awesome situations. I've experienced a lot of crazy shit during bootcamps, having drinks spilled on me is fine , ask RPQ about the fat old woman in Beijing who wouldn't let me go, you'll get a good story and a laugh. How are you AA (approach anxiety levels) now? Have you gone clubbing since then? Yeah, essentially anything you want to be possible is possible, you just have to be the force of create and guide god's hand to unzip those tight jeans and rip off those lacy panties. You did a great job in both that high pressure approach and then while doing the story telling as well. Reading your report has been a great pleasure, as was teaching you. I'm happy to see the progress you've been making since then. I've gotten Jackson to start recording his set (he should post it in a day or two) metrics (opens and a basic result) and you may be interested in the same thing as you're big on numbers and data. Congrats on the bootcamp and thanks for all your hard work. Dive into reading the suggested books ASAP and you will see even more improvement.2 points
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Great Boot Camp FR, man. You've been hitting it hard ever since and it's been great to see your progress and your successes.2 points
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Hello everyone, So things are quite busy and 2020 has been a bit of a strange year. 2019 I was getting back into game and then a whole bunch of things have happened. Firstly I was offered a transfer to Moscow. OMG Moscow, said yes in a heartbeat and closed out 2019 mobilizing to Moscow. I did make a few mistakes though. I ended up seeing HB Queen of Drama and was hooked once again, took her to Thailand and now somehow am back within her web. But hey here in Moscow and everything closed down I have been given a little bit of time to enjoy some of what Moscow has to offer. Speaking of which I am trying to note down my stories and learnings here. I have fallen into a number of bad habits and have to really work hard to get myself back to level awesome. Looking forward to your help while I am sharing this adventure. I have a few things I need to make time for to close out my Kazakhstan learnings so will finish my posts there also.1 point
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Time period: February & March 2020 Report: HB Aust Embassy - My first or second week in Moscow. I had set myself up on Tinder and had my location set to Moscow before I got to town. Really interesting girl, however not hot enough for me to go any further. Looking back I should have kept in touch as I really need to grow my social circle. Also interesting is that she works at the Australian embassy.... Hmm maybe to close to home. HB Sore Back - No Close - My second date in Moscow. Also from Tinder. This girl had been difficult to schedule, but i eventually managed to have her visit the hotel I was staying at as it had a restaurant. Was a really nice dinner date and she had a sore neck and back from sleeping under a draft of wind. I offered to give her a massage. So I took her back to my room and started giving her a massage. I managed to take her top and bra off and then moved onto a breast massage. Really liked her perky breasts. I then tried to massage her pussy but she wasn't into it and got up. I tried to D move her, but it didn't work and I ended up having a shower in front of her and not managing to break through the resistance. Walked her to a taxi and she then disappeared, I didn't manage to get her to reply to any text messages. HB 19 - Intermark Protected - My first paid sex in Moscow. Moscow Tinder is a very strange place. It seems a lot of the girls are either very skilled escorts or have monetised dating. This girl was a really really fun date. Often I would say that if a girl is after money then she is much less fun to be with... I cant say that I much enjoy time with a Pro. This girl however was amazing. She was after dating for cash.... Not really my taste but I wanted to try. I let her go after that meeting. HB Model 98 - Visited for weekend, was a virgin last time I saw her, but this time had sex, no pain issues, and seems not virgin any more, I asked and she said maybe with fingers... Hmm Things I did well + HB Sore Back - I have found that if a girl likes you then she will often also enjoy getting a massage. If you do this well enough then you can often get her fairly undressed or aroused. Things to improve - HB Sore Back - For this girl I realize that I could have gone a little slower and worked on getting her more excited. I feel that I likely rushed things here. This was the first girl I had touched for a few months so I was a little impatient. My realizations February and March was 3 tinder girls, 1 a sugar baby / pro, the other 2 didn't really add much value. I realize also that maybe its important to grow your social circle such that your out more. Have more opportunities for social circle game and pick up in venues you might visit with friends.1 point
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Been feeling very unmotivated with pick up recently. I want to get back out there and start approaching. This forum will keep me accountable. Appreciate any advice from you experienced guys! Thank you !1 point
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I'll let you know if I hear of anyone in Sapporo. Usually now would be a great time to be gaming there with the fireworks shows every weekend. Enjoy the not so cold weather while you can! The winter there is BRUTAL!1 point
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Nothing like a good urine test to get the ladies laughing! I just had that yesterday... Yeah...not sure how that one didn't make it into the bible. Yeah...it's always tough when you prepare for one tough situation and end up with a different tough situation. You should have gotten HER phone and punched in YOUR number. That way, you know it's legit. Make sure you let it ring until it actually shows up on your screen! I roasted myself on that once. I felt it vibrate in my pocket and sent her off only to find out that the number didn't come through...1 point
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I lived in Korea for five years and Korean girls are my type so that was why I specifically chose this pickup training. At first, I found RedpoleQ's blog back in 2014. I had a scarcity mindset back then so I didn't sign up for the bootcamp due to the fear of spending money, but I did take bits of information from his blog when I dated a couple of times in 2014 and 2015. Then in December 2016, I expressed interest in doing the bootcamp but the bootcamps aren't held during the winter months. By this time, I decided to stop teaching and become an engineer so I left Korea in March 2017 and moved to Silicon Valley, California. Anyway, I signed up for this bootcamp in April 2019 when I got enough vacation days for a trip. Before I arrived in Korea for the bootcamp, I grew out a beard. I knew beards were not ideal in attracting East Asian girls but at that time, I wanted to look "more American" and not get identified as Chinese since Chinese don't have a good image in Korea or Japan. Note: There is part two in Japan. Let's get to the actual bootcamp. There was another guy who was doing the bootcamp a second time. 4/26-4/27: First Night Game We met up at a Mexican restaurant in Itaewon and went over the questions that we answered before the bootcamp. Then we went over the game plan at a coffee shop. After that, we did cold approaches on the streets and at a convenient store. My first set was just to ask where a party venue was located. It was the first approach in this bootcamp and my face turned red. After that, we went to a club and I found a lot of problems I have in communication skills. It was hard for me to move a conversation forward. Also, the club was loud and I wasn't used to talking loudly. Thus, I just worked on the opener. Raising my voice was a challenge because my throat wasn't used to it so I got dry quickly. At first, I tried doing the opener with guys. Then I went back to girls. During the night, we went to two clubs. The first one had more approachable girls while the second one had more elitist girls. We were told about the difference in quality of girls at the two locations. We debriefed at a nearby Turkish restaurant. 4/27: First Day Game I shaved my beard off immediately. We met up at a Paris Baguette in Gangnam. RedpoleQ went over more theory. I remember we talked about compliance. Since I was an amateur at communication skills, I would focus more on the approaching and the opener. The day game was done on a street in Gangnam. I just worked on the opener and trying to push the conversation forward more. During this game, I still had a lot of fear of running out of things to say so there were moments where I ejected even though the girl was interested in talking to me. We debriefed at a coffee shop. By this point, I realized that Korean girls in Gangnam spoke English very well. Also I realized all I have to do is speak English loudly and clearly in order for the people to not assume I was Chinese. I didn't need a beard at all. 4/27-4/28: Second Night Game We met at the same coffee shop in Itaewon and went over more theory and the game plan. Before we left, I approached a girl sitting at a table next to us. She was friendly and interested in talking to me. Unfortunately, that fear of awkward silence and running out of things to say caused me to eject. RedpoleQ told me about "The Five Ws" in extending a conversation. I went back and tried talking to her more. Then we left the coffee shop. The clubs that night had long lines so we did approaches on the streets. I mainly worked on extending the conversation at this point. By the end, I had more success in prolonging conversations. Also, my throat didn't have the dry problems that I had yesterday. One thing I learned was to not be worried about what the girl thinks about my background or interests. Thus, I had a more successful set towards the end with the two girls from Gwangju which was where I lived when I was teaching in Korea. During this night game, we ran into someone named Marcus. He had an interesting insight into why jocks have more success in gaming girls. He said the difference between me and a jock was that I am thinking. We debriefed at the same Turkish restaurant as yesterday. Some random Korean guy asked for water. I ended up buying a bottle of water for him. Originally I thought it would be free self-service water rather than a bottle but I subconsciously decided that 1500 won isn't much money and just bought the bottle of water. After that, we had another conversation about compliance. 4/28: Second Day Game We met at an American breakfast restaurant and went over hero stories. For the second day game, I was less worried about running out of things to talk about. I was still nervous but it wasn't as bad as the previous days. Today, I did more approaching of girls walking around. Yesterday, it was mainly girls sitting or standing. Thus, I had to work a lot on walking up to a girl from the right angle and distance. Being too close will surprise the girl but it's okay to walk closer once you open up the girl and she is responding in a positive way. Towards the end, I realized the best way to not have awkward approaches is to just walk assertively to the girl. If you hesitate, the approach will become awkward. I did do some kino but my hand gestures were awkward at times. My final set ended in a weird way. We walked by a girl with a birthday cake and her friends. Telling her "Happy Birthday!" was the opener but I walked away as soon as I said it. Thus, the girls and even a nearby ajumma were confused about what just happened. Being nervous was why I ejected too quickly. The good news, however, was that I did have a couple of good conversations. We debriefed at that same coffee shop. Part Two in Japan In the following week, I was in Japan. I attended the texting seminar and did more game practice. Japan was more difficult because English levels were lower and my Japanese was worse than my Korean. On the plus side, I did manage to get some contact information during the Japan training. Eventually my Japan trip was over and so I didn't have the time to schedule any meets with the girls whose Line accounts I got. During the Japan trip, I got a new haircut and learned some basics of Japanese hairstyles. The difference between "direct approach" and "indirect approach" was covered too. The street game I did in Japan was worse than the street game I did in Korea. I think the reason was the language issue. Regardless, I did get some contact information in the bars. Here was the contact information I got: May 3: a fancy restaurant at the top of a building 1. Korean girl visiting her friend May 4: Starbucks in Shibuya 2. Japanese girl sitting next to me - She was still texting with me when I was back in America. May 4: British themed pub 3. Japanese girl that had Korean language abilities 4. Japanese girl that was short and petite - She didn't look at my texts at all. I think it's because I was too hasty and didn't connect with her. 5. Japanese girl - Texting with her did happen for a time. On the last day of the Japan training, I stumbled onto another communication problem I had, which was a nervous laugh I did right after I say something. The nervous laugh prevents the girl from reacting or saying something. Follow-Up in Korea In the following week, I was back in Korea. There was a Korean girl whose Kakao I got during the Japan game. She was the first person to give me her contact information. Anyway, she went back to Korea too but I wasn't able to schedule a meet with her. Time ran out. A large chunk of the second Korea trip was me going to Gwangju to hang out with the friends I made when I lived there. Regardless, I did do some game for a night in Hongdae. I got another Kakao account but there was literally no time for a meetup. Follow-Up in America Returning to America felt painful to me because I really wanted to just stay in Korea and Japan. The vacation was too short and so there wasn't enough time to set a meetup with the girls. On the bright side, this pain motivated me to become a freelance software engineer. Interestingly, I got laid off from my job in June. My co-workers were surprised I took the news well. One of the Japanese girls was still talking to me when I was back in America. She was the one sitting next to me at a Starbucks in Shibuya. A thing that I have been doing is to just ask strangers for directions. I decided to not bother using Google. Overcoming social anxiety is important and I am starting to think this anxiety was why I blanked out when talking to girls. Feeling nervous prevents a person from thinking clearly and making decisions. I think it's called "cognitive tunneling." On top of that, I decided to do sales training where I have to role play with other students. It's good for conversation practice. In the near future, I will be in Korea again. I am close in making the freelance software engineer thing work. As a final note, my recommendation for anti-social people is to do some approaching strangers practice before doing a bootcamp.1 point
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Tue 12 Jun 2019 Went to the doc to get an std test today, better safe than sorry, you know. Opened a bunch of people just because I felt like BT spiking. One lady working at reception by herself gave me that damnit another patient vibe, then she was giggling and smiling by the time I was done with my urine test, lol! Walking down the stairs while leaving I opened a tall girl that was really done up (for America) with I like your shoes. Thanks! They're from work though. Want to trade? Laughs and stops on the staircase. I get a look at the face and go, oh shit that's definitely a tranny. WHY? I don't know but the plastic surgery and tranny alarm was going off super loud so I said "haha, I'm just teasing you, enjoy your day!" and ejected Walked past a nurse who could have been decent checking her texts on a bench outside. Bitched out because there were like 7 other people within 25 yards. I walked to my car and kicked myself and said DON'T BE A BITCH. Went back and she was gone... he who hesitates lol Opened a girl in line behind me at the bank, she wasn't good but she was friendly so I just practiced talking to her and ran some attraction. No kino though lol. She obviously started to get pretty into it Girl came in behind her, skinny brigade worthy short asian girl with the short dyed blonde hair. Damn, one girl out of 100 that was even worth approaching and she was 4 people behind me in line. Talked to the tellers, walked outside and decided to try and make an excuse by calling customer service (the tellers advised me to) while talking to the security guard. She comes out with a guy who looked so different that I immediately assumed it was her boyfriend. They walked off and I'm still banging my head against the wall. I could have just asked her about her brother. AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH All in all at least it was good to go out and get some practice! By the local community college seems like it has a chance of having not trash girls too so maybe I'll be looking into that this weekend haha1 point
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5-10min. I mean, you can start texting on the way to the bathroom and then when you get back to the table you can check your messages more frequently because you'll be expecting some useful responses. LOL! That is such perfect terminology! So you just hook one girl and then walk her around and open another one with your arm around the pawn? When you ditch the pawn how do you do it without seeming like you're being a dick? The way it works is that with the pawn, you never really go beyond attraction so when you open the new girl you can ask her something about the girl you're with, like: Does it look like this girl had surgery on her eyes? How old do you think this girl is? This girl (the pawn) likes your x! (In this case you can talk about the girl before you open her) -- It's actually not necessary that you open like that since it's a club environment, it's quite normal for people to talk to strangers. Generally this will be tough if you opened the set and there is a language barrier, but in general, the best way to do it is to include his girl in the conversation. So, he asks you where are you from, you answer and then ask the obstacle. She says where she's from, then you ask the guy if he's ever been there, then if he has, have him talk about the place and if he hasn't have the girl talk about the place. Or you can eject and come back to the set later at the risk of not being able to find it. You have some options here too. One of the things that's different about night game from day game is that in night game, you can re-open the set later because typically they'll be there for several hours. It can be a lot better to run the set similarly to if you go to meet a girl and she is with friends. You get in there, make yourself look good, but knowing that you likely can't get enough isolation to progress the sarge at that time, you eject and come back later. It's easier if you open the set that's already dancing. In this particular case they were on the way to the dance floor and you were trying to interrupt that momentum. But if they're already dancing, and have been the next thing they're going to do is take a break anyway so you're going more along with their pattern. What's this about?1 point
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Sunday 21 Apr Went out to do some day game in the dark with Romeo. Shibuya. Romeo opened a really tough walking set with headphones, then a sitting two set that we passed by soon after going to a less crowded spot. I manage not to get noticed or be in line of sight when he opens this time (as I did too many times), and he brings me in after a bit. Who's the bad girl, I go over to mine who has goth accessories all over and a neck piercing and chuckle to myself. I start off with an Ohayo and only give my girl a handshake. I'm starting off a bit slow and can't think of things to say so I jump to qualification pretty quickly since it seems she's already pretty keen. Do you like skydiving. Her eyes light up and she says yeah I wanna try it! Woah high five! Scuba diving? She's actually done it! (I think at least, she speaks about as much English as I do Japanese which at this point is almost none.) Wow! I love you! I grab her and hug her tight, from the side because we're all sitting on a small stone barrier. She seems to respond well to this, and I actually do like her a lot more because she qualified well on that and a few other things even though she wasn't super good looking. For a little bit the two girls start talking to each other about our BT spikes or occasionally translating help. Romeo tells his girl to use a translator and show him and I try to get my girls attention by thinking of more interesting things to ask her. One or two times though I helped translate and felt kinda dumb. After about 10 minutes in set Romeo asks if I want to stay and maybe bounce and I say sure that would be great practice. He asks if they want to drink. Meeting guy friends soon. That's fine it should be quick. As he's doing this I try to seed sushi in shibuya because I forgot I needed to be seeding more. Everyone thinks I mean we should go to sushi instead, bad timing lol! That's okay we decide to bounce them to sushi and I double check with Romeo that he's cool with that. We walk over to sushi and my end of the weekend state starts getting to me. I forget to run enough game and am in general thinking way too slowly. We talk about a few things but luckily I was smart enough to forcefully pick the mood back up right before we left. Lots of smiles and time bridge before we parted ways and they went to go see their friends. Or so they said. I should have time bridged sooner and kept trying to game more. Opened a lot of walking sets and all the good ones with colored hair that I saw. Usually no English and some really tried to blow me out pretty hard. Romeo mentions that I should try to stop them since there were a lot of Japanese guys opening too, and most of them were walking with them or trying to hand out flyers as the girls passed. My successful hook rate increased after this, and if I didn't hook I'd at least get a decent amount more compliance sometimes. There were 2 sets that were really smiley but left though. 1. 2 set of what looked like super young girls when they turned around which threw me off. I was unsure but kept trying to open anyway. They want through a crowd of people but I stopped them for a half second. You! They continue trying to walk. Wait, your friend *kino obstacle, your friend's shoes are really big. They stop walking and are smiling a lot and listening. That means you. Point to make it extra obvious. You are only this tall. They laugh and I say, so you're 15. Wasn't looking into the obstacle's eyes enough. They laugh, no! And turn and walk. I'm confused on so many levels that I don't pursue them. Romeo says it was going well I should go reopen. I agree but we lost them in the crowd and shops. 2. Romeo is making a head call and a 2 set of taller blonde haired girls walks by. I hesitate a second and they're already perpendicular to me so I start walking to overtake them, 2 or 3 guys try to hand out flyers so I join in trying to hand them an imaginary piece of paper. They laugh and smile but we're all still walking. Stop, I tell them. They stop to my surprise. Your friend's shoes are really big! Decent kino I think, wasn't quite hard enough. They laugh and say yeah she's actually short. Good English!? They turn and keep trying to go. I say wait you should meet my friend! They stop and turn around again, waiting and I say he's tall and good looking. They have to meet some friends they say, they're late. I say wait one more time but don't pursue. I really REALLY should have with this set, at least line closed if not tried to see if I could get them to ignore their appointment entirely for the sake of science. 1 more set that is walking fast with silver hair and the standard Japanese tan overcoat. Hey!! Oh I thought you were my friend because of your tan jacket! No English! Hand up in front of her face. I mean you have the jacket, I lift up part of her jacket for emphasis. She pushes my hand away. I try to switch openers but she continues to walk faster and says something in Japanese haha. Romeo opens a 2 set of young girls because they have some gacha balls with something he thinks is funny. They hook pretty well. The obstacle hands us each a gacha ball to help open them. The obstacle is very compliant and we maneuver into a standard isolating configuration. They're friends celebrating my girl's birthday. I actually know enough Japanese now to keep the obstacle occupied and ended up kinoing a lot to test compliance, which there was a lot. Romeo mentions we should go meet RPQ and I say okay one second and line close my girl which Romeo later mentioned he thought was super funny because he felt awkward when he learned they were young and had gotten physically a lot stiffer when they mentioned it ?. Romeo's girl spoke really good English so could have a lot of fun with the set. Overall probably 10-15 minutes Try to open a set walking really fast. Some opener that was silly. Ignore. Hand. Meeting friend. Otoko. Is she his girlfriend? Yes. Okay. Realizations: -As Romeo mentioned to me, realizing what the girl is typically dealing with, whether that be guys' openers or how comfortable she feels with kino or energy levels (KV mentioned this too) can be really helpful in streamlining the learning process.1 point
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You usually can't get time if you're talking about night game. But usually, it doesn't matter, you can just move on to something else because night game moves so fast anyway. If it's a slower situation, you can "shush" her and then look into her eyes deeply making her think that you're having deep thoughts while you frantically come up with what to do next. Also, on Day 2s, you can dip out to the bathroom for a quick huddle up and maybe some texts to get some support from the guys. I've done this plenty of times when things weren't going my way. Did you come up with anything? Not that night. I wanted to say something like "You should lick it off!" But at the moment all I can think of is pretending to sniff it and saying it smells good, what is it lol That could work! I don't think I've ever had a girl spill a drink on me, so I never had to come up with something for this. YES, exactly. Social proof is your best bet here. Even better if you open her WITH another girl. In this case, the other girl is called a "pawn" and basically you bring her into the set, and then ditch her (sacrificing the pawn) once the girl you really want is hooked. Yeah, and blowing kisses, air guns, shy faces. The kind of cute/fun stuff that Asians like. I suck with tables too, man. No idea why. Maybe just lack of experience with them. Great realizations. Being non-reactive is a major marker of high value. And yeah...the more you go for those girls, the better you'll get at gaming them as you hone your skills. Good work and keep at it!1 point
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Hehe, fo' sho'! Got to know on Sunday that my girl is doing TOEFL with a friend to refresh her English only. No plans of her to leave. Anyway, a pair of new big titties to squeeze needs to be found!1 point
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This is true in isolation, but you could consider that if you pace them, then you could lead the group later. Also, hanging out with a group like that might make it easier to open other nearby sets who see you as you could bring them into your group so while it might be DLV with that set, it could be social proof with other sets. Yeah, this would have been worth trying. You can add this on as a BT spike. It's supposed to be a BS palm read, so you could just keep going with it and make it over the top ridiculous. Probably when she told you that you were wrong and she knew about palm reading you just cut the thread at that point instead of doing something like: Oh...then you know that this line means that you're going to have 15 kids with me or something else funny. You'd already isolated her? 2 options: 1) game as usual and forget about the boyfriend ("Where is he? At home? PERFECT! I love boyfriends that are at home!") 2) You could have then said that you're super sad and which of her friends does she think would like you or ask her if a particular friend would like you. Don't ask the guys, they often lie. Yeah! The less you like her, the more compliance you should demand! Perfect! Did you come up with anything? OH MAN! I can't wait to read this! This is one way to do it. Another way to think about it is that if you build attraction, you can go back into the set later when they're in a better position logistically, or to use them as social proof for other sets. This is also a good way to handle it! ??? Generally, I would just say, "that sucks," and move on because in the long run I want to set a bunch of frames around what cheating means but there's not enough time to do it well on the day 1 unless you get a bounce. Not all your sets will open. You generally just follow best practices. Clearly her friends think it's about her and not about you or they ALL would have left. So that implies that it wasn't your problem but that girl's. Just qualify both of them. It will be confusing for them, but you could definitely make a group chat with the 3 of you, for example to try and make it so that your whole relationship with them includes both of them. It's easy to make this mistake when girls are really responsive. I also find that my sets run a lot better when the girl doesn't know that I've noticed her or if I open in some way (like a facial expression) soon after she notices that I notice her. If there is a long lag between when she knows I noticed her and when I open it rarely seems to go well for me. My personal theory is that she creates some fantasy about what I'm like and then when I actually interact with her she's disappointed. I don't know if that's correct but the sooner I actually interact with her the more our interaction is framed by my purposeful behavior. THIS IS GOOD! I'm going to use this! It's always tough when girls are being really sexually aggressive and you don't have logistics. One way to run, especially if her friends are there is to play the gentleman and say that she's drunk and you need to take care of her or something along those lines. Or you can tell the friends that you're really into her but she needs to go home because she's too drunk. The point is to make yourself look good. This is very true in Japan especially and also in Korea. In fact, I'd say that in Japan the more attractive girls are far less likely to speak English. I would advise that you stick to gaming in Shinjuku, Shibuya and Roppongi to maximize your chances of opening girls who speak English at least decently. Most of the girls in Akihabara are super Japanese so they have no education and don't expose themselves to western entertainment media either. Glad I finally caught up on this. It was great having you come out for the boot camp and looking forward to hearing more about your Japan adventures!1 point
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Yeah, man! And the fact that you got two dates just from one weekend of relatively awkward approaches where you had no idea what you were doing and my hovering around in the background, how much easier it will be in a more normal situation. Great work this past weekend. Also, I second what @Romeo said about making sure approaching is a habit. Do this and by your next birthday you'll have a totally different life. Be sure to read @The Animal's approach logs. They're AWESOME for guys getting started. and I'm giving you access to the alumni section of the forum so you can start your approach log too, post your FRs from the two Day 2s you had and ask whatever questions you have! Looking forward to our first follow-up phone call!1 point
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Hey man! Awesome FR and good to hear you took the plunge and did the bootcamp! Welcome to the crew. Totally agree with @Romeo about trying to keep your momentum for the next couple months. It will also help to keep track of your approaches, so keeping an approach log thread on the forums is a good idea, too. Helps give you a more objective view of your progress and other people can provide feedback and ideas. I also recommend going back and reading some of the FRs other guys have written, as you'll get a lot of ideas for stuff you can test and insight into situations you haven't yet experienced. Looking forward to seeing your progress!1 point
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Have not met her since Sunday last week were I only had short time with her because she had her period. These days she seems very sensitive or tired when she is on her period so she would usually avoid to meet also in the beginning we met and even remember that I banged her on her period before but these days she would always avoid any sex on her period. Usually the period is always on a Sunday somehow. Got a message in the morning her saying that she misses my cuddle. I responded and said that I want to cuddle her too [she read - no response]. Then later I send a message "When will I meet you to cuddle with you" [read but no response]. A weird but normal pattern with her to send messages then often reads mine but does not respond. Generally she is not very reliable and planning anything is basically impossible. My expectations on her are so low that I almost care zero. So far I decided to just put up with it because I am not motivated to get out there and to make efforts to get new girls. It feels like a waste of myself though not to get out and try to bang other girls. At least now I know what the girl purgatory feels like... Plan to keep status quo with her for now but really asking myself if ditching her would not be an option since she is worth a quarter of a girl at most... To be continued...1 point
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Yeah the biggest thing is that when you are consistent, you make progress, now sometimes you're not happy with the amount or speed of it and that can be very detrimental to your results, but you do make progress, and the most basic thing about that is that you just need to keep doing so and the results will come. Your texting being a good example - there was some chick (Nancy i think her name was) that you were assuming would stand you up and then she turned up on the date and you ran off to meet her (we were at jing an temple that day), then you texted her a lot and tried to progress things, there were pretty typical bumps along the way and you made some progress with her, your texting improved dramatically as i remember RedpoleQ mentioning it to you and talking to me about it. There are many other times where you've engaged in consistent approaching/meeting women and gotten better and better results, the LTR you had is one example of that. Your default seems to be going hard at a particular thing and expecting massive results, some stuff works like this but for game in comes in dribs and drabs, you might hammer away at something for a while and be getting little gains and then suddenly the flood gates open and boom, big results. This is usually the case when you just start, if you've been doing a while it will happen less often because you're already more familiar with the territory. You've practiced a lot on the outer skills and gotten good at various things, what happens if you are picking up and reflecting on your results consistently is that you will start to notice certain patterns in terms of your results which make your weaknesses/areas needing improvement more obvious, the increase in results from consistent practice and an influx of girls coming into your life means that you start getting more action, which helps you have more motivation to keep working on things and makes it so you can feel capable to deal with whatever comes up because you already have a bunch of stuff you've dealt with to get to where you are now. Anyway so consistent practice with reflection (aka approaching regularly and writing FRs and then acting on the needed fixes) is going to get you the results you want more than short periods of extreme exertion. What made the training with Mystery not so good? What do you think should have been different about it to help you progress more or get better results? Some nights are gonna be shit, some are gonna be epic and some are gonna be somewhere in between. The more you get better at managing each stage of the interaction and predicting the likely obstacles, the more consistent your results are going to be, you will however occasionally have the odd curve ball thrown at you which will just fuck everything up, ideally just try to learn from those situations. If things going shitty upset you this much, you really need to hammer on your inner game and practice being objective so you can better change things up to give you results that are going to make you happier and keep progressing at Game. Avoidant fobby asian girls - lol, great description. Mission Club - looking back, what were the dynamics at play that made things difficult? Other than you feeling unhappy about the reactions you were getting. It's important to try and figure this out, because you can at least manage those things somewhat, if you know what they are. Yep, your 'i should have' thing is correct, you could also have said ' duh China, which part of China though?' and then spoken some canto or given some other hint to lead them into guessing. You could also have pushed the topic of Shanghai, if they were from there, you could ask which district and then tell them that district sucks and that you like X district better. Why not use canned stuff that you've learnt before? Or was it that you felt nervous/uncomfortable and that that messed with your capacity to think of some? On my first few sets of the night, I always just try to make it as easy as possible by doing stuff that i always do, so I don't need to think of anything new or improvise anything. Usually the opener is: stop stop, you guys are sooooooo cute, why? then pointing out their friend is cute and usually then pointing to their clothing and commenting on the color and linking that to something, like you're wearing black, so you're the bad girl, you're wearing white so you're the good girl. Bringing the wing in - if you're unsure if it's hooked or not, then just ask how many people they are with and then tell them you're with a friend of yours who is really awesome in x way and say that the obstacle will love him, then watch her reaction, if nothing or good, bring him in, if negative then bt spike again by saying but too bad for her because your friend is gay or is scared of cute asian girls like her (in a joking fashion). You sound like you know exactly what you should have done to make it work, so im guessing the main issue was managing your emotional state so that you didn't lock up or feel unable to think of stuff. Sometimes this shit will happen on the first few sets, you've just gotta push through it, even if the first few sets blow out - so what? Recognize the limits on what you can do when you have access to X emotional state and work from there. I can't usually physically pick girls up and be super awesome on my first set or few, mainly because my 'awesome mode' isn't engaged yet and i recognize it will take a while to get it going, so just gotta slog through. If i'm gaming very regularly, it only takes a few sets to make it happen, if not then it may take an hour or few, if i'm really out of it then it might not occur at all and my sets may just be average/very meh, which is fine, as they can still convert into dates and bangs so long as i run enough of them. So..it sounds like you did well to begin with, her friend didn't hook and ruined it and then the girl was shy or nervous in front of her friends and did the typical Korean thing of putting the breaks on. Was there an opportunity to push for contact details? You gotta keep in mind that its your frame vs hers and only one is gonna win. Having said that, if this was your 2nd set, you did well, as you went from zero bt spikes to doing a bunch of them. What did the bouncer do? This opener is pretty cool. Sounds like you did a bunch of stuff well and are following what i've listed I would do by using stuff your familiar with and don't need to think about too much. Did you and Petch discuss what he could have done differently to run the set better? or was it just mei ban fa? So you ran the set well, got a good reaction which caused you to become emotionally engaged to the point where you forgot to run game and instead just relied on your auto pilot (this is fine if your auto pilot means you do a lot of stuff right), ran some good convo/qualification and got some comfort going, you seeded eating together, got some butt action and ran the set for 20 mins or so. This sounds good, have you followed up with her? You should go out and try to have 10 sets like this, and then you will have X amount convert. I write X because there are lots of unknowns that fuck shit up, I was at a house party recently and had 3 sets there, 1st one went for 30 minutes or so and seemed to go super well, 2nd one was shit and went for 2 minutes before I ejected because something weird was going on, 3rd set went for a long time and involved changing venues. 1st set - no response from the girl, even though everything went really well. 2nd set - didn't bother number closing her, turns out she had a bf who came to the party later 3rd set - banged this chick on the day 3, she turned out to be pretty crazy though lol. Being a house party, it was way easier, if it was a club then 3 sets probably wouldn't be anywhere near enough, lets say i go clubbing and open 50 sets, I might have 10 really good sets and have a few convert into dates and bangs, might have 0, really just depends on many factors outside my control. Even if it goes well, it might not result into anything because of BF/other unrelated issues. So my point is that you did a good job with this set based on what you've explained, and you should approach more and more girls to try and have more interactions like this that will be more likely to lead to the results you want. Lol this is super MM style. Theres lots and lots happening in this routine, can you explain what you think is occuring and how it's going to affect the girl? How did the girl respond to it? Pretty interesting. So why did you get flustered about getting good results? You needed to ask the girl much much earlier how many people she was with and how they knew each other. Some guys will see situations like this as an opportunity because they think the girl will be easy or something. The material is just supposed to be training wheels to help you develop confidence to deal with each stage of the interaction, so...if you got stuck and don't know what to do, come up with some material to deal with that particular situation next time so you can deal with it. I know that sounds simple but that really is how a lot of this works, you're constantly solving a puzzle and trying to figure out which pieces go where. What was the end result with her in the club and then after that? You Bt spiked well and then got normal Korean resistance, from there you probably needed to get some sort of kino going that would lock the set in with you, be it a palm reading gambit or showing them something on your phone, simply because it isn't tenable to try and converse with the entire group for the reasons you mentioned. Yeah when you get all in your head you become negative and that's not a good experience for the people interacting with you. Being chill and fun of course is the winning move. The opener was good, although she didn't buy into it. The neg was funny as fuck, i literally Lol'd just now. You being upset about her reaction - It's gonna happen, the issue is that you're taking it personally. You don't need to win them all, you also need to recognize you have a between 0 and100% chance of success with each girl and focus on increasing that percentage by doing as many things right as possible and by finding the girls who are more likely to convert. Harsh rejections - The important thing here is that you just learn from your experiences by viewing them objectively, how you feel is irrelevant if you're learning things that help you long term, because you're going to feel lots of different ways about different things. You should be getting some of these reactions each time you go out and approach, I dunno how many you've gotten in comparison to good reactions vs entire number of sets. There are definitely going to be sets where the cold thank you is going to be the result regardless of what you do because they're basing their response on what they see of your physical appearance and initial behavior and that those things don't match up with what they think they want. You can make some adjustments on the behavioral end that may influence this somewhat but you're still not going to convert every single set. The talking fast thing - yeah, sounds about right. Great. 2. You take their reactions personally, sometimes it will be about you but mostly it's about your behavior and its super important to recognize this, because when you do you wont have your state all fucked up from it, you can choose the frames you hold about things. 3. Probably, that's fine, just keep practicing them until they're smoother and get better at having fun. 4. Great. 5. Yeah so speak slower, louder and make sure your positioning is good. 6. the Korean girl - maybe, assuming she gave you bad reactions because of your 'game', it could be she was there with her bf etc etc, so i'd be less focused on how i feel about the situation and more focused on whats happening around me to see if that is influencing things negatively. 7. Yeah, definitely. 1. Yep. 2. Lol yep. 3. If possible it certainly helps. 4. What do you mean? 5. yeah for sure, you should actually make a simple stack and practice with it for like 50 sets, then change it up a bit, being extremely objective about the results i.e the mad scientist - it doesn't matter what the results are, getting data and making adjustments is what matters. Finished the 6 pillars of self esteem yet? Great FR dude. You should write them as regularly as possible, even if you're only writing one 1/10th the length of this one it is still good to post them regularly so you can make more adjustments more quickly and get better and better results. Go Jackson!1 point
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HB Philosopher - women say a lot of things and then do a lot of things different from what they said, attraction is not a choice, it just means there MIGHT be an obstacle because of her previous negative experience, so avoid triggering anything similar to that and it will likely still go down. You have to be looking for how you can make things work instead of why they can't work, even if it's irrational because you will get whatever you're focusing on. Hb Wonderwoman - girls not responding to a single text doesn't mean they aren't interested, a lot of Asian girls are gonna require more legwork than you would expect because they have a lot more options and there isnt much of a chase dynamic from woman to man here unless it's the ceo of baidu's son or something. So if your first message to her was saying her outfit was good and she responded by saying thank you, then the issue is that your message needs to be constructed in a way to give her more to talk about or respond to. You may message girls a few times with no response at all and then eventually they hit you back and are really keen, simply cause they broke up with the bf or were sad and now they aren't or they thought you were a player and didn't really like them but because you hit them up a bunch they realize you do actually like them. HB Sichuan - You should be pinging girls once a week, every week. HB NZ - How long was the interaction? HB Finanace - If you're not that keen on this girl, find two more replacements and work on them. 1. Please post these at the bottom of your FRs Things i did well Things I will do better Realizations 2. We really need to know approx how long the interaction with each girl was and some vague idea of the content as this would enable us to give better feedback 3. Are you bt spiking these girls? kinoing? qualifying?1 point
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I had a Date scheduled with a tall HB 7,5 I also met from Nightgame. She told me an hour before that she ll show up with her female friend that flew in from another city, so I cancelled the whole thing and told her we ll do it another day. Now I had to find sth else to do for the evening. I was going through my wechat texting some girls that might have time. HBPetite was very responsive because I left a funny comment on photoshopped picture of her the day before where I acted a bit retarded and she found it to be very funny. She was hungry and I convinced her to have a meal at Tai Koo Li instead of having some fried rice by herself. We met at Tai Koo Li, had some foreign food, she didnt liked it(truffle cream tagliatelle, WTF dish directly from heavens gate and u DONT LIKE it....) but that was okay. I of course paid for everything. Because she didnt liked it I suggested some ice cream as a dessert. She then accidentally bought an 10$ ice cream cone I also paid for( lol fuck me, right?). After that we walked around the area for another hour and had fun conversation about her and me.Her last EXes were foreigners I found out. Speaks fluent English and is quite smart, so it was all fun and interesting. After a while I brought up that I need help with my projector at my new place. I acted like I didnt know how to search for foreign movies. She agreed and we walked home. We watched a comedy on my uncomfortable couch (have to replace that) . I did cuddling kino and escalated throughout the movie. Already had intense makeouts before the movie ended but she actually wanted to finish it. After the movie things went their natural way and I closed easily. The Sex had a very vanilla and romantic vibe to it. After the first round she told me that she wanted to stay overnight. But she needed some make up removal and contact liquid. So we went downstairs and I bought some and a phone charger since she uses an Iphone. After that round 2. The next day she stayed until afternoon, she felt very comfortable at my place. I really like this girl, she is probably the most attractive I have banged yet. I enjoyed her company and I am looking forward to see her again.1 point
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It was the 3 set of models I opened at some event I walked by. The girl I decided to target because she spoke english said she was lesbian, and so I got her coworkers wechat too (she offered to help me) When you put it that way it makes perfect sense haha! I was wondering about other things that could trigger ASD, though now that I've thought about it I just need to think carefully about whether or not I could with my actions. And to calibrate via experience too Their boyfriends also don't know how to manage them too. That does make sense, I forget sometimes my aim is to be far better than the average guy at dealing with girls You are right that is both true, and better. I just have to think about how to say it without sounding like I'm defending being a miser haha What's more important? Seeming normal, or getting what you want? Ultimately, it doesn't matter. You just should understand that jumping through a girl's hoops doesn't necessarily mean that you're more likely to close. It only means you'll be more likely to get the meet. So, you need to consider whether you're willing to give that level of compliance for the meet. Also, keep in mind that if she "seemed keen" then she's MORE likely to give you the compliance you want. In fact, the amount of compliance you can get IS the measure for keeness. Okay, so what I need to do is decide my own willingness to give compliance and make a baseline. Though, rather than seeming strange, maybe it'd be better to say that it seems like giving low compliance would reduce her willingness to give compliance in return. Right! Which is back to how value (and keenness as her perceived value of you) and compliance are two sides of the same thing like you said in bootcamp. The light bulb just turned on lol Haha does this mean I get to join in on the "you should write an FR about it" train? This is usually a result of over-confidence, laziness or BOTH! It was both. ? That won't be happening again any time soon though! Thanks!1 point
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Great report! Looking forward to following your progress and commenting when I think I have something to add.1 point
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Haha don't try to butter me up! But yeah that set was super fun, and the sex seminar was everything I could have hoped and more lol. I don't know about daily but yeah I'll start a thread about my approaches because I really could benefit from feedback rather than just trying to calibrate off what I remember at the time!1 point
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Hey bro, I'm glad that you are doing what you said you would do and are writing field reports to get feedback. Really awesome that you are proactively working to get better, success is soon ahead ? Also good that you are going out gaming regularly! That night we went out to LKF things went fairly well, I'd say, although I think things could have gone a lot smoother and been more efficient if you had a concrete plan that you could refer to throughout the night, ESPECIALLY during those tough times where you are feeling emotionally shook up and uncertain about what your next step should be. Like I said on our last Day Game session, I think it's good for you to have a concrete idea of (1) What specific goals you want to accomplish (what kinds of sets would you like to open, what kinds of girls), (2) How you would like to reach those goals (what openers would you like to play with, do you want to approach x number of girls in a certain amount of time?), and (3) what things you AREN'T ready for yet (for example, approaching a smoking hot girl from the front, approaching in a crowded place where people can hear what you say, etc.), so that you can tell me and I will know not to push you too hard past your limits. Don't want any public meltdowns in front of hot chicks ? I have certain best practices that I have found usually work for me in Day Game and Night Game, but you will likely find that they don't fit your temperament 100%. Keep experimenting and you will find what does work for you, and don't get bummed out if the opener you wanted to test out on a certain day falls flat. It happens, just note why you think it failed and see if it's worth trying to adjust the opener or just try a new opener. It's nothing personal, everything is just experimentation and practice, and sometimes that practice leads you to sexy times with a hot girl ?1 point
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I like Asian girls a lot. In my relationships with them was very little drama compared to relationships with western girls. Asian girls usually don’t give me a reason to leave them because they didn’t do anything wrong. But there comes a point where you have to since I don’t plan to marry them and circumstances change. Then you dump then or leave them. It’s sad. My ex(Indonesian) is the best example. I probably would have ended up marrying her, if I would gotten a normal job back in Germany. I left her because I wanted to stay in China. Was difficult for both of us, but probably more for her than for me. She told me that her life felt empty without me. I actually think I would have made her happy, provided her with some kind of family since my family loved her and she had issues with hers and that she would have been a great mother. But I wasn’t ready for that. My suga mama did a lot for me. Took care of me when I was at the hospital, helped me with organizing and managing my life since I can read Chinese and provided an overall higher quality of life for me back in Jinan. If I would have stayed with her, her life would have been pretty much complete since she already got everything else a Chinese women wants(Gucci handbags, houses, cars). Me ocasinally whoring around probably wouldn’t have bothered her. If I would have fake-married her, I could have gotten her to Canada somehow where she wants to live with the rest of her family(she somehow cant get there, since they are afraid she wont leave, which is a valid concern). I left to Chengdu. I never loved here but still feel a little guilty for leaving. Daniela(Funnycatgirl) was great. I meet her after I already decided to move to Chengdu. She had a lot of what I like in a girl. She probably would have become my girlfriend. I was sad when I left her and Jinan. I am afraid of longterm relationships now. If you wont marry her there will be disappointment and the feeling that you couldn’t ultimatively give her what she wanted. Have you guys also the feeling that our abundance with women can be negative to one individual that we like? I am not here to make the life of women worse and I usually don’t, but I feel guilty. Especially for my ex. Don’t know if anybody has similar thoughts.1 point
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Great post and I'm glad you're thinking about this. I hope that some of the guys post their thoughts and experiences about this, because I think it's important to think about this stuff.1 point
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Background: After toying with game for a year and a half via the influence of my PUA best friend who lives in LA, and reading The Game and Day Bang, I decided that it was time to get into the community in Asia. I sought out Mr. Vast via a friend who had moved to Mexico and mentioned Kane on my last trip there in Mexico City. I had started the 30 day challenge from "Rules of the Game" and was getting up a bit of momentum but I needed more, faster. Law of attraction right here; send the vibes into the universe and the universe throws it back to you what you need! Other friends had said to me "dude, why are you doing game, you don't need it. You are already good with girls" and shit like that, but I had dragged my feet long enough. I was not approaching or attracting my ideal type and had just broken up with my girlfriend of 8 years. Thinking of going into bootcamp with 100+ bangs under my belt, and significant negative feedback from AFC friends about game, I had all but convinced myself I didn't need it until this one day that spurred me into action. I was standing in line at a coffee shop, and my ideal type walked in behind me and lined up.....she made eye contact....I smiled and.......nothing......literally nothing......i froze....... all i needed to do was open my damn mouth, and yet I couldn't even think of what to say. I stood there frozen in fear of rejection.....and just let that beautiful creation walk out of there, unscathed. Fuck. In that moment of clarity, like getting bad results on an STD test (i'm guessing). I said to myself "Dude, get in there, get the structure and control your future with women or you're gonna keep getting the same shit". Day 1 - Friday Night / Night Game Lots of learning, and got to open one girl already who was my ideal type. Damn this is awesome. Kane immediately picked up on my fear about too much Kino and some slightly awkward "less than alpha" body language I had going on. He said to me "No more baby tiger" I remember so clearly on one set that went really well where I had opened the set, isolated then bounced the target while my wing occupied the friends and I stayed in the set for 20-30 minutes. I had strong kino going on, qualification etc. and the girl was just dying to continue the conversation or for me to ask for her number at least, and Kane said "its time to go". Hahah shit that felt crazy. I'm walking away from a girl who wants to bang. She just stared at me blankly like "god i want to see you again, ask for my number damn it!" But, my instructions were clear, no numbers on first night! so I moved on. This girl was probably a 7/10 and normally I would have tried to take that as far as I could go, try to bang, and been really happy with myself. That WAS my status quo, settling for girls who make themselves available, and not the ones that I REALLY WANT. Another girl that Kane opened on the street outside the club was an awesome learning experience for me. He picked her up right in front of the dude she was with, kino'd her, used "daddy likes" sexualization, seeded with restaurants and got a date with her. Early in the set, Kane also showed me exactly how to deal with the dude in this case, by giving him lots of compliments (face) and essentially neutralizing him. He literally stole the girl from this guy, and the guy couldn't do anything about it. Some key takeaways from the night: Kino kino and more kino. Body language, neutralize the obstacles. And.....especially girls out at night want to be approached, as long as its the right way! Day 2 - Day Game This was probably the most fun I had during the bootcamp. We were in PPLs square and damn the freaks were out! With the cosplay store in the underground area, the hello kitties and kimono kids were everywhere, and with the other nutcases walking around, it was pure entertainment! ( regardless of the fact we were doing game) There was this one psycho in a spiderman outfit on roller skates, shooting imaginary spider webs at random passersby. It reminded me of that Dave Chappelle episode where the homeless guy takes a bus full of people hostage by whipping his dick out and threatening to ejaculate on the civilian passengers, hahah. So in this session I used mostly my "Pet shop" opener from Day Bang, and got my first couple successful time-bridges. This is where I learned how to begin seeding properly and really seeing how far you can take the first interaction, and all from complete cold opens on the street in broad daylight! It would get better......but harder Night Game - Le Baron This.....was pretty terrifying. I had no idea how to open without TALKING. Kane showed me some non-verbal openers, and really pushed me hard. Shockingly (or not), I opened a girl without saying a word by using "Hand of God" opener. Number close, time bridge, done. Amazing. Kane also had me practice more strong kino, sexualization with "strawberry fields" and got my first kiss close. During the night I had a "run-in" with the ex's friends and a girl I had a threesome with previously where she came in screaming and jumping all over me, spilling drinks on Kane. Half proud and half embarrassed, I couldn't help but think "God these are the types of chicks I used to roll with". This really shook me. Worlds colliding...... I was completely out of my comfort zone the whole night. Since I quit drinking a year and a half ago, I had basically not stepped into a night club unless it was with a bunch of friends and no intention on meeting anyone new. By this point I had number closed about 15 times and had two or three dates lined up so the progress was clear....this shit works. Kane assured me that the discomfort would pass the more I practiced.....so I kept pushing on. Day 3 - Day Game This was the toughest day in terms of logistics as we were approaching girls walking through XTD, I had a really hard time getting started that day as I was still shattered from the night before and had ended the night feeling pretty uncomfortable. Kane was friendly but put the pressure on to finish strong. I dragged my feet hard through the first few sets and he really caught me off guard when he said "I'm here to watch you open, so lets stop walking so much and go open." Hahah. Smack. Whenever I let a girl out of a set without closing he would say "If the girl had your wallet, would you let her walk away like that?" At one point he actually took my wallet and walked away, lol. Point taken. This session I used my first direct opener without any conversation first. He basically had me go up to two girls at a restaurant and say "Hey my friend is waiting for me, but I would kick myself if I didn't ask for your number." The girl just smiled and silently applauded my directness and gave me her number. WTF, insanity. So many realizations about what is possible during this bootcamp. Later on I was onto to fulfilling my mission of using my recently crafted "Hero story", which I delivered during a set which I had bounced successfully. So interesting what it does psychologically to the target and to watch her body language and expressions change as the story unfolds. I later seeded and successfully time-bridged in the set. Day three ended with an awesome sum up at El Luchador and rolled straight into a F close with a girl that I chatted up who had been on my WeChat but I had not been doing the right things to get out and to bang. I loved all the anecdotal stories Kane drip feeds in throughout the bootcamp, where you really get a good idea of what goes on with the guys in the community before transitioning out of the bootcamp. The structure was really good (what I had needed) and the experience one to remember, for sure. I left with the feeling that "This is the beginning of something amazing, a new journey". The constant learning and feedback in the community, and now doing Saturday Sarge and meeting with other PUAs regularly in the past few weeks has been awesome. Total sum up from Bootcamp: 22 numbers and 5 time-bridges. A couple of the girls i've gone on first dates with already and am working with the guys now daily in the WeChat groups to get these across the line......Abyss Game here I come!!1 point
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Congrats on the close, man. And good job writing a report about it! Just have a few comments on this section: These things you listed are all tools you can use to improve your day 1s and day 2s with girls you're really into. In this situation, it was pretty obvious the girl was keen and making things easy for you, so it probably wasn't necessary to do those things to get the close. Ideally, you want to use qualification and future projection on girls you really like and want to see again (or on girls who are objectively hot, because they're being pursued so often so you need to set yourself apart). I'm not sure how interested you are in this girl, but since you gave her a 6 rating, I'm guessing you're not that into her? Can't really tell. IF you did want to see her again or keep her as a regular, it could have been a good idea to suggest a second date, do some future projection or just spend more time with her in general before pushing for a close. It's important to remember that future projection, bounce seeds, qualification, getting info about dating / sex experience, etc. are all just tools you can use to progress a pickup. You don't have to (and won't have to) use them for every single set. Things aren't so rigid. The individual girl and individual scenario will give you a sense of what needs to be done. A big part of being good at pickup is being able to look at any given situation and understand what tools are best for handling that specific situation and then be able to deploy them properly. Keep writing FRs! And remember: you learn more from the FRs where you fail than from the LRs where you close Congrats again, man. Looking forward to seeing more of these from you!1 point
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We would expect nothing less! NO SPORTSMANSHIP! Ref, you gotta stop this man! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?????? What's the status on the next meet? Translation, please I think we now know the reason for a lot of Made You Look's relationship issues! I had a friend that was into this too...he said it made him feel like he had a big dick.1 point
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Ding ding. You earned access, by dedicating yourself to becoming more awesome. If you consistently practice and write field reports for just 12 months, you will be shocked at the continuing realizations you will have. You did a great job on the bootcamp, keep up the good work!!!!!1 point
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Nice. Now if you're in Asia, and the girl is interested but speaks zero to little English, what are some things you can do to make it easier for her to get what you mean? LOL! I'm gonna be telling this story to future members! Haha! Exactly! Cheers for plowing through the boot camp, even though you were sick. Love the energy and enthusiasm you had opening the sets! Good stuff, and looking forward to future FRs!1 point
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Awesome times that weekend! Was really impressed that you bounced TWO set! You crushed it! Welcome to the party!1 point